Joe Biden's Murica!

[Redress10]

Yet, it was the first time so many people came out to vote, to vote for Trump. That's not a regular reaction to ordinary American politics. That's support for the hatred and crass abuse that Trump exposes in the population. That's why the polls keep being wrong wrt to Trump, because they aren't polling those backwater racist trailer park white supremacists that are coming out to vote for Trump. Pollsters don't normally call up such people to ask their opinion.

And that white trash trailer park population is huge. They just don't show it on tv to promote the illusion of white supremacy. America is a majority trailer park white trash nation

[Dohplaydat]

Yet, it was the first time so many people came out to vote, to vote for Trump. That's not a regular reaction to ordinary American politics. That's support for the hatred and crass abuse that Trump exposes in the population. That's why the polls keep being wrong wrt to Trump, because they aren't polling those backwater racist trailer park white supremacists that are coming out to vote for Trump. Pollsters don't normally call up such people to ask their opinion.

Polls are hard to conduct mainly because people who actually respond to polls tend to be democrats as most republicans would be skeptical or otherwise feel suspicious about persons spying on them or trying to figure out their views if they're closeted republicans.

That's why i said several times trump support is severely under reported.

[The_Honourable]

Goooosh... feeling the angst in here for trump voters

[Miktay]

Yet, it was the first time so many people came out to vote, to vote for Trump. That's not a regular reaction to ordinary American politics. That's support for the hatred and crass abuse that Trump exposes in the population. That's why the polls keep being wrong wrt to Trump, because they aren't polling those backwater racist trailer park white supremacists that are coming out to vote for Trump. Pollsters don't normally call up such people to ask their opinion.

Polls are hard to conduct mainly because people who actually respond to polls tend to be democrats as most republicans would be skeptical or otherwise feel suspicious about persons spying on them or trying to figure out their views if they're closeted republicans.

That's why i said several times trump support is severely under reported.

True. What we can agree on is most polls are flawed if they don’t try to get around the reluctance of likely Trump voters to be suspicious.

Most polls did not even try to factor that unknown.

[redmanjp]

biden projected to win wisconsin

[teems1]

It's just a matter of time.

Even if Trump wins GA, NC and PA he won't have enough.

Biden winning AZ was the key moment. Being in the lead in NV, MI, WI once he holds on he's in the white house.

Hopefully Trump doesn't demand recounts or use his legal team like a sore loser.

biden projected to win wisconsin

[sMASH]

Because the opposition put up people that either offer little or are just marginally better than trump.


A slam dunk would be Medicare fir all.
Pulling back troops would ease up spending to do other things, , but not sit well with elitests who think mericsh needs to runs things all over.

Trump campaigned on infrastructure the last time and not much follow tru. And their infrastructure needs attention.

[maj. tom]

And they still waiting for Trump's health plan. "it will be ready in two weeks!" is literally what he has been saying since 2017 on every 2016 campaign promise. Infrastructure? It'll be ready in two weeks. When he got Covid he said Covid vaccine? It'll be ready in two weeks, by elections. Every single thing has been a lie.

https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+health+plan+two+weeks

But Proud Boys stand by.

[bluefete]

Biden takes Michigan. That will call in a few minutes. If he does he might go to 264 electoral votes. If my math is right.

[Arcmanov]

Yet, it was the first time so many people came out to vote, to vote for Trump. That's not a regular reaction to ordinary American politics. That's support for the hatred and crass abuse that Trump exposes in the population. That's why the polls keep being wrong wrt to Trump, because they aren't polling those backwater racist trailer park white supremacists that are coming out to vote for Trump. Pollsters don't normally call up such people to ask their opinion.

This is so true.
A commenator on CNN remarked last week that most of the polls do not capture the 'non-college-educated white male' as college educated people are more likely to take part in polls. The result is a poll where the data is more likely skewed in a particular direction.

We're actually seeing it playing out here where Trump is actually getting MORE votes than he did in 2016...despite all his 'miss-steps' in office.

I am truly surprised that Biden is actually putting up such a strong fight, and might actually win, but the amount of support Trump has gotten in this election is very telling.

It appears that AmeriKKKa is more divided than ever before.

[The_Honourable]

Biden takes Michigan. That will call in a few minutes. If he does he might go to 264 electoral votes. If my math is right.

If Michigan is called, all Biden need is Nevada and he reaches 270.

[MaxPower]

Trump loss?

[The_Honourable]

Trump loss?

Nah, but it looking grim

[maj. tom]

If Trump wins, America has to solve their own internal issues by whatever means. If that means the downfall of a corrupt empire (Bread and Circuses) and formation of a 2nd Republic with major constitutional reform, then that's what has to happen. Older nations have gone through this, especially France. Reconstruction failed because they never solved the lingering problems that the Constitution could not directly address when confronted with them in their past. Maybe it's time now.

[Arcmanov]

The end of Pax Americana as we know it?
2020 might just be the beginning of the end.

[De Dragon]

If Trump wins, America has to solve their own internal issues by whatever means. If that means the downfall of a corrupt empire (Bread and Circuses) and formation of a 2nd Republic with major constitutional reform, then that's what has to happen. Older nations have gone through this, especially France. Reconstruction failed because they never solved the lingering problems that the Constitution could not directly address when confronted with them in their past. Maybe it's time now.

It'll never happen. Too many people in America have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo. This means, just like our little backwater here, that the fewer will always have the true power over the majority, and will do the deciding for them, whether they like it or not.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

THIS!

Because if Covid didn't happen this year, Trump would have declared victory already.

[toyolink]

As a case study, the USA today is showing the world what that country's brand of democracy is all about.
Many leaders in the totalitarian world may actually feel that their form of governance may represent a far more viable model.
Maybe the time has come to rethink our definitions, expectations and values.
Certainly the divisions and fragmentation of the USA peoples are reaching dysfunctional levels and we ourselves must take note given our own condition.
Hate and intolerance can never be in the acceptable range of attitudes/values or sentiments of any progressive society.

[Dohplaydat]

Trump's only chance right now is winning Nevada and keeping his lead in Pennsylvania, Georgia and North Carolina......assuming Biden win's Michegan.

Honestly, barring something drastic, I don't see Trump winning. NV will stay blue making them the deciding state

Dems might end up winning with just 270! Has a US election ever been this tight?

What's amazing to note is that if not for Covid and mail in ballots I think Trump would have won this hands down.

[The_Honourable]

Biden 264, Trump 214

Dog fight in Nevada, neck and neck. If biden get it, he wins.

[st7]

Biden 264, Trump 214

Dog fight in Nevada, neck and neck. If biden get it, he wins.

what's your source? i'm getting diff numbers when i google

[RedVEVO]

Biden 253

Trump 213

https://www.cbsnews.com/door/election-2020-president/

[MaxPower]

Biden 264, Trump 214

Dog fight in Nevada, neck and neck. If biden get it, he wins.

Sigh,

Anybody chest burning?

Or getting a can’t breath feeling?

I now know how the UNC supporters felt.

[The_Honourable]

Biden 264, Trump 214

Dog fight in Nevada, neck and neck. If biden get it, he wins.

what's your source? i'm getting diff numbers when i google

[De Dragon]

Trump's only chance right now is winning Nevada and keeping his lead in Pennsylvania, Georgia and North Carolina......assuming Biden win's Michegan.

Honestly, barring something drastic, I don't see Trump winning. NV will stay blue making them the deciding state

Dems might end up winning with just 270! Has a US election ever been this tight?

What's amazing to note is that if not for Covid and mail in ballots I think Trump would have won this hands down.

IIRC one of Dubya's terms was 272 EC votes

[sMASH]

And they still waiting for Trump's health plan. "it will be ready in two weeks!" is literally what he has been saying since 2017 on every 2016 campaign promise. Infrastructure? It'll be ready in two weeks. When he got Covid he said Covid vaccine? It'll be ready in two weeks, by elections. Every single thing has been a lie.

https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+health+plan+two+weeks

But Proud Boys stand by.

and biden is saying to keep what going on wiht a public option. which means what? a govt health plan for the absolutely poor? trump might as well keep giving people checks, so they could pay their rents, school fees, or medical care if they need to.

[Dohplaydat]

Apparently, Trump still has a possible way in through Arizona. It's a long shot though but Arizona will be under dispute I'm sure.

[sMASH]

the highest voter turn out in their history and trump is giving him a run for his money. that means real people eh buy what the dems was sellin.

[Dohplaydat]

the highest voter turn out in their history and trump is giving him a run for his money. that means real people eh buy what the dems was sellin.

Dems need to stop being whiny hypocrites with their overreactions, supporting or aligning with SJWs and their leniency with BLM.....

[zoom rader]

More action than Guyana election.

Trump needs to learn from TT red Goverment on how to steal an election