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Total votes: 39

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Re: US election 2020 prediction

Postby RedVEVO » November 12th, 2020, 3:40 am

toyolink wrote:
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Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
toyolink wrote:Mr Biden has moved to President Elect status and for Mr Trump the end nears.
One wonders if the the man who is Mr Trump will provide scenes of screaming and kicking when he has to vacate the 'palace'.
Dignity and grace in transition seems highly unlikely.

Many would love to see him kicking and screaming as he’s hurled out of the office but that’s a leftist fever dream. He may continue to complain and say the election was stolen from him but the kicking and screaming won’t happen as many are hoping.


It is amazingly funny how we compare Trini or 3rd World experiences with 1st World countries :D

Trump just lost an election . So he moves on like other US Presidents .

He goes back to make more billions with his business ventures on the outside .

Others do it on the inside :D


I must admit that the going-ons by Mr Trump and his cohorts are reasons for chuckles and is the form of 'kicking and screaming' I referred to.
Assertions of Mr Trumps wealth and the fantastic life he has been endowed with ring hollow to me, since there may very well be liabilities waiting outside the White House precincts which may materially negatively affect the generally perceived good life.


In the USA men like Trump are known as " white sharks " and they Rule the World .

Again and again there is NO COMPARISON with these " White Sharks " and ANY Third World ambitions :wink:

If you lived and/or studied and work in USA you would understand that T&T is a dot :lol:

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Re: US election 2020 prediction - Eh.. Biden won tho!

Postby MaxPower » November 12th, 2020, 8:09 am

The_Honourable wrote::lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: US election 2020 prediction - Eh.. Biden won tho!

Postby Miktay » November 12th, 2020, 9:10 am

^ simple maths.

Epoch Times just doing what mainstream media supposed to be doing.

They not awarding electoral votes in States where ballot outcome iz uncertain.

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Re: US election 2020 prediction - Eh.. Biden won tho!

Postby Dizzy28 » November 12th, 2020, 9:21 am

The subplots in the US elections quite interesting
The Democrats doing much worse in the House races than pollsters had predicted. Currently stands at 218-202 with 15 seats outstanding which is enough to give the Dems house control however seeing that they have various factions (centrist, conservative and left leaning) they are not guaranteed a winning margin for all bills.

The difference between winners and losers are really small too - Iowa 2nd is at 100% votes counted but the margin of victory is 40 votes (under recount obviously)

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Re: US election 2020 prediction - Eh.. Biden won tho!

Postby redmanjp » November 12th, 2020, 11:22 am

so perhaps OP can open back the poll and let us vote to see who think biden will actually become the next president or will trump get lucky and some bombshell happen to overturn the final outcome

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Re: US election 2020 prediction - Eh.. Biden won tho!

Postby redmanjp » November 12th, 2020, 11:32 am

why haven't they called north carolina for trump yet? 99% votes in and the margin is 1.4 %, arizona was called with only a .3% difference

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Re: US election 2020 prediction - Eh.. Biden won tho!

Postby Miktay » November 12th, 2020, 1:20 pm

redmanjp wrote:why haven't they called north carolina for trump yet? 99% votes in and the margin is 1.4 %, arizona was called with only a .3% difference


Depends on who u ask.

Depends on who is “they”

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Re: US election 2020 prediction - Eh.. Biden won tho!

Postby The_Honourable » November 12th, 2020, 2:47 pm

Miktay wrote:^ simple maths.

Epoch Times just doing what mainstream media supposed to be doing.

They not awarding electoral votes in States where ballot outcome iz uncertain.


Exactly...

Max... Commander Trump going down fighting.

Dizzy28 wrote:The subplots in the US elections quite interesting
The Democrats doing much worse in the House races than pollsters had predicted. Currently stands at 218-202 with 15 seats outstanding which is enough to give the Dems house control however seeing that they have various factions (centrist, conservative and left leaning) they are not guaranteed a winning margin for all bills.

The difference between winners and losers are really small too - Iowa 2nd is at 100% votes counted but the margin of victory is 40 votes (under recount obviously)


Not only that... with a Republican senate none of those bills reaching the President desk. Is Mitch McConnell you talking too, like him or not he's playing the political game on expert.

If Biden/Kamala gets thru, we have a dem house and a republican senate, nothing substantive is going to be done except a stimulus package. All dems could do is that they can bring bills knowing fully well it will be blocked and therefore fail to then tell the electorate that they tried creating a narrative for 2022 mid-terms.

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Re: US election 2020 prediction - Eh.. Biden won tho!

Postby Dizzy28 » November 12th, 2020, 2:57 pm

The_Honourable wrote:
Miktay wrote:^ simple maths.

Epoch Times just doing what mainstream media supposed to be doing.

They not awarding electoral votes in States where ballot outcome iz uncertain.


Exactly...

Max... Commander Trump going down fighting.

Dizzy28 wrote:The subplots in the US elections quite interesting
The Democrats doing much worse in the House races than pollsters had predicted. Currently stands at 218-202 with 15 seats outstanding which is enough to give the Dems house control however seeing that they have various factions (centrist, conservative and left leaning) they are not guaranteed a winning margin for all bills.

The difference between winners and losers are really small too - Iowa 2nd is at 100% votes counted but the margin of victory is 40 votes (under recount obviously)



Not only that... with a Republican senate none of those bills reaching the President desk. Is Mitch McConnell you talking too, like him or not he's playing the political game on expert.

If Biden/Kamala gets thru, we have a dem house and a republican senate, nothing substantive is going to be done except a stimulus package. All dems could do is that they can bring bills knowing fully well it will be blocked and therefore fail to then tell the electorate that they tried creating a narrative for 2022 mid-terms.



Senate at 50-48 currently. With the two Georgia runoffs in January Dems could very well get one or both of those and in the event of a tie the VP will be the deciding vote. There is still some fight left

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Re: US election 2020 prediction - Eh.. Biden won tho!

Postby Redman » November 12th, 2020, 5:28 pm

BLM is mandating that Biden meet to receive instructions.

5G warfare....

Biden eh ready.

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Re: US election 2020 prediction - Eh.. Biden won tho!

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Re: US election 2020 prediction - Eh.. Biden won tho!

Postby Miktay » November 12th, 2020, 10:46 pm

Redman wrote:BLM is mandating that Biden meet to receive instructions.

5G warfare....

Biden eh ready.


So what ur saying iz the US President elect Gwan recieve marching orders from the military wing of the Democratic Party?

Sounds about right. Thaz nothing new.

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Re: US election 2020 prediction - Eh.. Biden won tho!

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » November 12th, 2020, 10:52 pm

This is a key witness for Trump’s voter fraud case.
https://twitter.com/litraider/status/13 ... 94368?s=24

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Re: US election 2020 prediction - Eh.. Biden won tho!

Postby MaxPower » November 12th, 2020, 11:11 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:This is a key witness for Trump’s voter fraud case.
https://twitter.com/litraider/status/13 ... 94368?s=24


Hmmmm not much evidence with this van ting.

Could be anything.

My gut feeling is telling me Trump has some ammo waiting to be released.....

He MUST know that if he doesn’t really have anything that his days are numbered......he can be dotish at times but he can’t be this dotish.

Just remember he...he......Commander Donald Trump, beat an icon like Hilary AND survived 4 years....he simply knows how to bypass all the loopholes.

Maybe he can do it again or maybe it just will not end very well.

Let’s remember that Trump has a very very good legal team.

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Re: US election 2020 prediction - Eh.. Biden won tho!

Postby zoom rader » November 12th, 2020, 11:25 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:This is a key witness for Trump’s voter fraud case.
https://twitter.com/litraider/status/13 ... 94368?s=24
How come you not so active in your own country politics?

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Re: US election 2020 prediction - Eh.. Biden won tho!

Postby sMASH » November 12th, 2020, 11:40 pm

zoom rader wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:This is a key witness for Trump’s voter fraud case.
https://twitter.com/litraider/status/13 ... 94368?s=24
How come you not so active in your own country politics?
he real active, how u think they win back... 8-)

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Re: US election 2020 prediction - Eh.. Biden won tho!

Postby sMASH » November 12th, 2020, 11:41 pm

MaxPower wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:This is a key witness for Trump’s voter fraud case.
https://twitter.com/litraider/status/13 ... 94368?s=24


Hmmmm not much evidence with this van ting.

Could be anything.

My gut feeling is telling me Trump has some ammo waiting to be released.....

He MUST know that if he doesn’t really have anything that his days are numbered......he can be dotish at times but he can’t be this dotish.

Just remember he...he......Commander Donald Trump, beat an icon like Hilary AND survived 4 years....he simply knows how to bypass all the loopholes.

Maybe he can do it again or maybe it just will not end very well.

Let’s remember that Trump has a very very good legal team.

he bought out key electoral college members.

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Re: US election 2020 prediction - Eh.. Biden won tho!

Postby shogun » November 13th, 2020, 12:18 am

The fvck? :lol: Allyuh reading these fellas comments? Swear i made a wrong turn on the internet and ended up in Stormfront propaganda page on Reddit?

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Biden not getting intelligence reports because Trump officials won't recognize him as president-elect
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nation ... t-n1247294

You think Obama, Hillary, or ANY politician left or right could get me to go along with this dangerous nonsense? Understand when people call these Trump zealots a cult of lemmings, it's an honest description.


And wait, Zoom policing other people speech? :lol:


Go to 1:32 timestamp.


Oh sheit! :lol:

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Re: US election 2020 prediction - Eh.. Biden won tho!

Postby sickbad » November 13th, 2020, 4:44 am

democrats didnt know the ballots were watermaked with blockchain encryption.

It was always said nothing can stop what is coming. which is https://www.cisa.gov/publication/about-ncswic-documents which covers election security

for those who have eyes to see, big tech and MSM are stirring the pot, when all is revealed, POTUS may communicate directly with citizens with the emergency broadcast system bypassing all MSM. Military intervention will be required.

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Re: US election 2020 prediction - Eh.. Biden won tho!

Postby Redman » November 13th, 2020, 7:03 am

https://www.justfactsdaily.com/quantify ... l-election

Quantifying Illegal Votes Cast by Non-Citizens in the Battleground States of the 2020 Presidential Election



Summary

A wealth of facts show that there are ample openings for non-citizens to illegally vote and that roughly 16% of them voted in the 2008 and 2012 presidential elections. If this was also the case in the 2020 battleground states where Biden currently has slim leads, the numbers of non-citizens in these states and their preference for Democrats may have netted Biden enough fraudulent votes to tip the overall election winner from Trump to Biden.



The results—documented in this spreadsheet—show that such fraudulent activities netted Joe Biden the following extra votes in these tightly contested states:

Arizona: 51,081 ± 17,689
Georgia: 54,950 ± 19,025
Michigan: 22,585 ± 7,842
Nevada: 22,021 ± 7,717
North Carolina: 46,218 ± 16,001
Pennsylvania: 32,706 ± 11,332
Wisconsin: 5,010 ± 1,774
If the lower end of these illegal vote estimates were removed from the vote tallies as of November 8, 2020, 2:00 AM EST, Donald Trump would be leading in states that have a total of 259 electoral votes, or 11 shy of the 270 needed to win the presidency. If the upper end of the illegal vote estimates were removed, Trump would be leading in states that have 285 electoral votes, or 15 more than needed to win the presidency.

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Re: US election 2020 prediction - Eh.. Biden won tho!

Postby agent007 » November 13th, 2020, 9:07 am

Trump is likened as a King Cyrus reborn. The evangelicals were caught by surprise because they even wrote books indicating that he would get his 2nd term. Time will tell if these books should be purchased or removed from amazon.
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Postby cornfused » November 13th, 2020, 10:06 am

Some unsubstantiated information is coming thick and fast. Both CNN and BBC News have reports that Biden has won Arizona no issues of voter fraud. It's the first time in 70 years that a democrat has won there.

The count is now 290 to 217

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Postby matr1x » November 13th, 2020, 10:12 am

To be fair. The left talking about legality but still supporting illegal immigrants is a joke

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Postby pete » November 13th, 2020, 11:22 am

Redman wrote:https://www.justfactsdaily.com/quantifying-illegal-votes-cast-by-non-citizens-in-the-battleground-states-of-the-2020-presidential-election

Quantifying Illegal Votes Cast by Non-Citizens in the Battleground States of the 2020 Presidential Election



Summary

A wealth of facts show that there are ample openings for non-citizens to illegally vote and that roughly 16% of them voted in the 2008 and 2012 presidential elections. If this was also the case in the 2020 battleground states where Biden currently has slim leads, the numbers of non-citizens in these states and their preference for Democrats may have netted Biden enough fraudulent votes to tip the overall election winner from Trump to Biden.



The results—documented in this spreadsheet—show that such fraudulent activities netted Joe Biden the following extra votes in these tightly contested states:

Arizona: 51,081 ± 17,689
Georgia: 54,950 ± 19,025
Michigan: 22,585 ± 7,842
Nevada: 22,021 ± 7,717
North Carolina: 46,218 ± 16,001
Pennsylvania: 32,706 ± 11,332
Wisconsin: 5,010 ± 1,774
If the lower end of these illegal vote estimates were removed from the vote tallies as of November 8, 2020, 2:00 AM EST, Donald Trump would be leading in states that have a total of 259 electoral votes, or 11 shy of the 270 needed to win the presidency. If the upper end of the illegal vote estimates were removed, Trump would be leading in states that have 285 electoral votes, or 15 more than needed to win the presidency.


With a website name like justfactsdaily.com how can anyone argue this..

Seems like lots of right wing propaganda to me though.

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » November 13th, 2020, 12:45 pm

justfactsdaily is a right leaning website
only legal votes are counted so saying if they don't count the illegal votes is a moot point

JOINT STATEMENT FROM ELECTIONS INFRASTRUCTURE GOVERNMENT COORDINATING COUNCIL & THE ELECTION INFRASTRUCTURE SECTOR COORDINATING EXECUTIVE COMMITTEES

“The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history. Right now, across the country, election officials are reviewing and double checking the entire election process prior to finalizing the result.

“When states have close elections, many will recount ballots. All of the states with close results in the 2020 presidential race have paper records of each vote, allowing the ability to go back and count each ballot if necessary. This is an added benefit for security and resilience. This process allows for the identification and correction of any mistakes or errors. There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised.

“Other security measures like pre-election testing, state certification of voting equipment, and the U.S. Election Assistance Commission’s (EAC) certification of voting equipment help to build additional confidence in the voting systems used in 2020.

“While we know there are many unfounded claims and opportunities for misinformation about the process of our elections, we can assure you we have the utmost confidence in the security and integrity of our elections, and you should too. When you have questions, turn to elections officials as trusted voices as they administer elections.”

https://www.cisa.gov/news/2020/11/12/jo ... l-election

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Re: US election 2020 prediction - Eh.. Biden won tho!

Postby MaxPower » November 13th, 2020, 1:27 pm

Wow

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Re: US election 2020 prediction - Eh.. Biden won tho!

Postby pete » November 13th, 2020, 1:28 pm

You gonna believe that deep state nonsense over anecdotal data derived from 10 year old census information?

C'mon Duane. :lol:

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Postby timothymcdavid » November 13th, 2020, 1:55 pm

Department of Homeland security has had their say:

https://www.businessinsider.com/dhs-bre ... ry-2020-11

"The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history," the DHS said in a statement.

The Department's Elections Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council & the Election Infrastructure Sector Coordinating Executive Committees found "no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised."

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Re: US election 2020 prediction - Eh.. Biden won tho!

Postby timothymcdavid » November 13th, 2020, 1:57 pm

The game is now afoot ... here is what is the constitution says about no concession from Trump.


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Postby Miktay » November 13th, 2020, 2:16 pm

timothymcdavid wrote:Department of Homeland security has had their say:

https://www.businessinsider.com/dhs-bre ... ry-2020-11

"The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history," the DHS said in a statement.

The Department's Elections Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council & the Election Infrastructure Sector Coordinating Executive Committees found "no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised."


And then we have thiz.

Only the courts can settle it.

Chair of the Federal Election Commission Trey Trainor believes voter fraud is taking place in states still counting ballots.

During a Friday appearance on Newsmax TV’s “National Report,” Trainor said locations not granting observers access to watch the ballot counting process could be involved in voter fraud.

“I do believe that there is voter fraud taking place in these places,” he said. “Otherwise they would allow the observers to go in.”

Despite winning a court order, which allows the Trump campaign to send observers to watch ballot counting in Pennsylvania from six feet away, Trainor said ballot watchers “have not been allowed into the polling locations in a meaningful way.”

He said when observers have been permitted to watch, the goalpost has been moved away from the six feet required by the court order.


https://newspunch.com/federal-election- ... egitimate/

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