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Postby alfa » October 22nd, 2020, 5:53 pm

So next question. Will catholic run schools in Trinidad be indoctrinated with this this new found acceptence as well? And the only reason I brought up the radical left is because it does appear as though they have infiltrated powerful sectors of society. When last you watched a seemingly family show without a gay character? Even Hallmark the last bastion of conservative family TV has changed. I ain't got no issue with people's gay choices and human rights but don't try to make everything a discrimination issue if people want the sanctity of their schools and tvs respected. Geeze no one's openly telling people not to be gay or lgbtxyz whatever. But it shouldn't come as surprising when you could have pride marches but last year when US churches had a straight pride march that was an issue. Just guess to show how tolerant the left really is

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Postby Les Bain » October 22nd, 2020, 6:03 pm

elec2020 wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/1993/06/28/us/blacks-rejecting-gay-rights-as-a-battle-equal-to-theirs.html

https://www.npr.org/2015/07/02/41955475 ... vil-rights

https://www.floridatoday.com/story/opin ... 564436002/

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/1990 ... gays-pbto/

https://www.lgbtmap.org/file/talking-ab ... ricans.pdf

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/20 ... gay-rights

https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/24 ... -insult-to

the links provided include my reasons why the comparison of the two is considered disingenuous and an insult to black people. But gays like you (i realize you pushing hard for gay rights... sus) probably don't understand that. They will use whatever resources to justify there actions to sex does of the same gender. Something that goes against the fundamentals of nature. Anyway this is my last post to you have a good day and remember to stay safe, it is scientifically proven that gay people are more likely to get AIDs than straight people


Scientific facts also prove that black people more likely to get AIDS than any other race too.

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Postby elec2020 » October 22nd, 2020, 6:25 pm

Many black people may be HIV-positive and not know it, so they continue to spread the virus while also getting sicker. In 2014, only 59% of African-Americans living with HIV were taking medicine for it. In 2015, more than half of those who died of HIV were African American.

Some African-Americans still mistakenly believe that HIV is a white, gay disease. That makes it hard to teach them about HIV or get them to talk about their HIV status.

Part of the problem may be a lingering distrust in the black community of government sources of information and research. The historic Tuskegee Syphilis Study did harmful medical testing on African-Americans, without their knowledge, for 40 years.

https://www.webmd.com/hiv-aids/hiv-aids ... ing-crisis

There is no question that the Tuskegee study is one of the most horrific examples of unethical research in recent history. For 40 years, ending in 1972, members of the United States Public Health Service followed African-American men infected with syphilis and didn’t treat them (although they told some men they did) so that they could see the disease take its course.

There’s also no question that this experiment shook the foundations of trust between Americans, especially black Americans, and the medical establishment. A new paper argues that this wound was so severe that it led older African-American men to avoid care, leading to a decrease in life expectancy of 1.4 years, accounting for about a third of the discrepancy in life expectancy between black and white men by 1980.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytime ... e.amp.html

Assuming your stats on black HIV infections were coming out from the US. My excerts show that HIV is higher in black communities due to (primarily) distrust in the government and medical practitioners. If you are speaking about african countries its well known that due to poverty people often don't have the means or know how to engage in safe sex. For instance, i think i read in 2018 india was the third largest country with hiv infections per person and we all know that india has a lot of people in poverty. Nevertheless, it is scientifcally proven that anal sex has a higher risk of hiv transmission than vaginal sex. This link provides the reasons why.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... 3406246178

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Postby maj. tom » October 22nd, 2020, 6:57 pm

Alright, so Freddie Mercury, Isaac Asimov and Liberace had AIDS. Alan Turing was a homosexual.
What's the link to denying people basic human rights?

You really ought to read some more, and especially outside your personal confirmation bias. Look i just wrote something up there for you and you just "^noted" which is the same as your "^Ok" and continued without any reflection.

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Postby elec2020 » October 22nd, 2020, 7:09 pm

^ noted

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Postby Les Bain » October 22nd, 2020, 7:17 pm

A little advice Tom: when faced with enlightening a pro black racist, go do something else.

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Postby elec2020 » October 22nd, 2020, 7:19 pm

Pro black racist. I never knew that about myself. Do tell me more

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Postby Les Bain » October 22nd, 2020, 7:23 pm

Hold your breath and wait for it. Brb.

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Postby zoom rader » October 22nd, 2020, 7:26 pm

Les Bain wrote:Hold your breath and wait for it. Brb.
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Postby maj. tom » October 22nd, 2020, 8:12 pm

Another point that bigots keep bringing up is that "it is against nature."
Well it kind of isn't because homosexuality has been observed in many other animals, and deliberate too.

But you know what's also against nature? Human speech. Now this is thinking outside your tiny littleassholebrain. Some time in our past, over the last million years the Homo genus from Homo erectus to modern humans brains changed so that we could make sounds to communicate with others. This has definitely lead to the immense success of our species in dominating the planet. And over the last 200,000 years Homo sapiens developed a little area in our brains called Broca's area. It evolved over many thousands of years into what we are seeing here. Speech and communication. Then we discovered Wernicke's area which is also linked to language. So we learned to talk. Compared to every single species that ever existed on earth, that's against nature. Isn't it? Other animals can communicate in various vocal ways, but nothing like speech and language.

Now what if human sexuality is evolving the same way which will take many thousands of years to reveal an advantage to human evolution? Just like speech. Homosexuality and trans behaviour has been recorded in written history for more than 5,000 years and likely has existed for many thousands of years before. Many cultures developed a 3rd gender to accept their own people as being different but still belonging. Gay people do not reproduce. But yet it still occurs in every single generation randomly at about 8 to 10% in every human population on earth, whether isolated or mixed. Well, why would this happen? Why would nature do such a thing, a seemingly evolutionary trait that current knowledge cannot explain? What if these observations are actually a step in human evolution regarding sexuality and mating? What if there is a part of our brains that are expressed by a randomly activated piece of genetic code in about 8% of each population? What should humanity look like in 50,000 - 100,000 years if such trends do yield an evolutionary advantage, similar to how speech has been to humans?

I bet no bigot ever considered that in human history.

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Postby agent007 » October 22nd, 2020, 9:25 pm

The Pope does have some liberal perspectives though, does that mean he is anti conservative?

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Postby redmanjp » October 23rd, 2020, 12:46 am

https://www.facebook.com/srmarima/posts/2208388282639310

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As the Papal headlines got exaggerated, we find it necessary to provide some gathered information that might help all of you. #ShareTheTruth #iAmCatholic #ConvivenciaCivil

Pope Francis has spoken before to encourage parents and relatives not to ostracize or shun children who have identified as LGBT. This seems to be the sense in which the pope spoke about the right of people to be a part of the family.
Pope Francis say NOTHING about same-sex marriage in the documentary entitled "Francesco".
He never promote civil union but he is talking about the state to make a law in protecting homosexual people in their civil life from social rejection.

This is what Pope Francis said:
"Homosexual people have the right to be in the family. They are children of God, they have the right to a family. No one can be thrown out of the family, or make life impossible for that."

"What we have to do is a civil coexistence law. They have the right to be covered legally. I defended that", he added.
As you can see, where does Pope Francis say that he supports civil unions or civil marriage?
The Holy Father used the term "Covivencia Civil" or Civil Co-existence and not Civil Same-Sex Unions. In the documentary, he speaks in Spanish and mistakenly translated in the provided English subtitles.
Civil coexistence law that the Pope refers to is to protect homosexual people from mistreatment and social rejection in their own family circles.

Pope Francis is defending what the Church has always defended, the dignity of the people, and is proposing civil laws to protect homosexuals from abuse in their own family environments, who are often rejected by their own parents, siblings, and relatives.
Brethren, do not let yourself be FOOLED or manipulated by anyone. Pope Francis is not encouraging homosexual unions. His words are taken out of context.

Headlines from mainstream media is a MISUNDERSTOOD, MISQUOTED, and MISINTERPRETED statement of the Pope.
NOT CONVINCED? I humbly advise you to watch that documentary. Read and study the teachings of the Catholic Church. And never put your Catholic faith on the basis of what you hear and read on social media.
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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » October 23rd, 2020, 1:26 pm

Listen to Father Harvey at around 25:30
https://fb.watch/1iOMrdN2-A/

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Postby redmanjp » October 23rd, 2020, 2:07 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Listen to Father Harvey at around 25:30
https://fb.watch/1iOMrdN2-A/


the translation means simply 'coming together', not necessarily a sexual union or act

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Postby bluefete » October 23rd, 2020, 6:03 pm

So according to Fr. Harvey, the Pope really said that gay people should not be thrown out of their homes for being gay, and there should be civil union laws to stop them from being thrown out.

Also, according to Fr. Harvey, just because 2 people are living together, you cannot assume they are jumping in the same bed. And if one of the 2 dies, then the other one should be able to continue living in the same house and not be thrown out by a brother / sister / relative of the deceased.

The Church holds up marriage (20:10) but forbids its priests from getting married. Wow.

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Postby Dohplaydat » October 24th, 2020, 1:59 am

Gay rights debate on Ugandan national TV. Might be good for some trinis to watch and listen too.


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Postby ruffneck_12 » October 24th, 2020, 7:34 am

meanwhile islam still stoning gays

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Postby redmanjp » October 24th, 2020, 11:44 pm

Dohplaydat wrote:Gay rights debate on Ugandan national TV. Might be good for some trinis to watch and listen too.



pastah get cut off, grabbed some fruits, and stormed the studio oui :lol: :lol:

on another note i wish it had subtitles- half of that was in ugandan.

but pastah speaking truth wrt hiv risk

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