Neighbourhood Security Gate Suggestions

[Nightshield]

Looking for some suggestions on gates to be installed in a neighbourhood/community.

At present, there are roughly 16 houses.

More to be built in the coming years, as the land has already been sold (assumption)

One home does not want the gate. Ideally, everyone wants to install a gate at the only entrance to the neighbourhood, for safety reasons in Trinidad.

One of the major concerns: garbage collection - giving the collectors a keycode isn't very safe, a remote control is usually lost/not safe, and then collectors change often.

Are there any suggestions for other types of gates that can be installed ? Or does anyone have a solution to this?

A private dumpster/Swmcol - the location to place it outside the gate is actually quite far and not reasonable for persons to drive their garbage out. Although i believe this is the only solution.

Asking garbage collectors to come specific times is also unreasonable. These men come around 4:00a.m some days some weeks etc.

[ProtonPowder]

24/7 manned guard booth at the gate to let the garbage collectors and utilities providers in

although with just 16 houses your costs to do so will be rather high

[pugboy]

just cater for the idiots who will
never pay their share of fees to cover the gate or remotes etc
and they are usually not the ketch arse ones

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

It's more than just garbage collection will be the issue.
You also have TTPOST, couriers, visitors and since more houses to be built you will have workmen, cement trucks, contractors etc in and out of the development all the time.

Hire a guard to man the gate?

[Nightshield]

I believe they will explore the idea of a guard in the future.

Most of the persons presently occupying here, always have at least one person in their homes, so the issue of the other visitors listed wouldn't be a huge hurdle right now.

What I understand is the owners of the land, when sold to buyers, stipulated that they hire their own contractors to build on the land etc, so the original owners are going to be building for the buyers.

I was doing some research and came across a GSM Communicator gate. It is my understanding that times can be isolated etc, and certain numbers would be allowed access in addition to the remote control access. I am not sure about the disadvantages to this.

What's the average cost of a security guard per month? And companies who do these things?

Each day living at home here in Trinidad is becoming such a scary thing.

Thanks for the suggestions guys, thus far, that is. All thoughts welcome.

[Blaze d Chalice]

Ollour wouldn't put an intercom and a security camera by the gate too?

Why not specify 2 or 3 days for the week to put out rubbish and pay a piper a 50 or 100 to drive it out in one of dem flatbed trolley cart. 16 houses , if is 8x2 side by side not sounding like far for a piper to walk.

I know some of them gated communities have something in place where if you loss your remote you can call a number on the phone and the gate would open.

But any kind of "arrangement" that would allow outside people in there, would leave the whole place in an "unsecured" state for however long.

Remember them gate really only preventing pest from driving in.
Pest still coming over that gate, rob you and jump back over to escape in the Tiida park around the corner.
Isolating time would only be a scene if people know the times.

Adding numbers/giving the Rubbishman his own code wont make sense if rubbishman changing daily.
A single-use in/out code also don't make sense because how TF they getting the code?
Maybe you can put a paper on the wall with the code and hope a pest don't find it first.

I too feel the best option is to have them use the Swmcol dumpster.
But not driving to it. That lil exercise every 2 or 3 days might be the only exercise some of them getting.

[Ted_v2]

Dumpster at gate would be ideal

keycode on the gate to allow u to come in, code cycle changes ever so often.
good idea but hard to execute unless everyone full aboard.

[Redman]

Budget $25 per hr for a Security Guard
More if it’s 12 hrs and not 24.

Also keep in mind that as stated above...monthly fees will be hard to collect as people lose interest etc.

People are lousy when these these things happen......big time people refuse. 250 a month for a high quality patrol in my area.

[pugboy]

these things best put into place with paper agreements when owners buy into the development
very hard to come after and ask persons to pay

Budget $25 per hr for a Security Guard
More if it’s 12 hrs and not 24.

Also keep in mind that as stated above...monthly fees will be hard to collect as people lose interest etc.

People are lousy when these these things happen......big time people refuse. 250 a month for a high quality patrol in my area.

[airuma]

As stated before, this is more than just garbage collection, road paving and brush cutting may also be the responsibility of the home owners if this is not implemented properly, but I’m not 100% sure about this.
I know of a community that did this recently, they installed a gate with a key pad that is used to dial a code which in turn calls an owners cell. I believe the owners then open the gate by responding with a code on their phone. This community has the gate opened/ free access between 5am-8pm I think.

[Redman]

Pugboy,

In my area the co supplies multiple patrols,escort s on request,a response and whatever is needed.

Each person signed on and agreed......yet by month 3 people started to flake off.

Contract or no contract people are not serious.

The security co then has to spend time and resources collecting.

[Dizzy28]

Gate keeping is as easy as just installing with the agreement of the residents?

Should not OP have to go to the RC/Borough for permission as well seeing as community services fall under thier remit? They would advise on the access for the garbage etc.

[88sins]

Is there a proper wall around the entire area of this community that encloses the area including where the additional houses are to be constructed? & I mean a wall with deterrents at the top to discourage people jumping over. Hadda ask, cuz it have mad ppl will put a wall & gate at the front on the road by the main access & the rest of the location open or it have openings in spots at the sides & back. Seen it done before, all I did was shake my head & laugh to myself. But I digress.
As per the question, put a sliding gate & a guard booth with a phone/intercom, a list of contacts for each residence and other important numbers can be kept in the booth & hire a couple young men to man the booth for 12 or 24 hr shifts. This would cost about 30% less than hiring a security company to put a sketchy "officer" on your location, and there's other advantages as well as disadvantages. One potential disadvantage being very important, especially if leaving a phone in the booth, you have to let them know using said phone for personal calls not allowed & it will come out of their pay if they do. Everybody know talk is cheap until they get a phone bill & see it eh cheap at all.

If opting for 12hr shifts, after the 12 hrs if residents expecting visitors they can ask him to remain on duty that day a little longer to let in their guests. If it's 24 hr shifts then the night man will assume that responsibility.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

As stated before, this is more than just garbage collection, road paving and brush cutting may also be the responsibility of the home owners if this is not implemented properly, but I’m not 100% sure about this.
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I think once a community is gated the borough or city council has no obligation to do any road works, drainage, cleaning or maintenance there.

[redmanjp]

so, it gonna be a 'gated' community with private parties or what?

[rebound]

If its a proper gated you can put a gate (and you are responsible for your infrastucture, not the state) otherwise you would need permission to put a gate in the first place..