Venezuelan floating storage with 173K tons of oil is sinking in Gulf of Paria

[sMASH]

repeated pics of the vessel showing its consistently in the same attitude. it doesnt seem to be leaking. they have a tug there propping it, they have a lot of chains. imo, we have some time before it becomes immediate. so we can approach the situation systematically and diplomatically.
what we gonna do, empty it and tow it, or tow it and then empty it?
connecting another vessel to it while it seems to not be balancing well, and then changing its weight distribution, seems quite tricky. i personally would not put humans on board that while emptying it. i would opt to calculate a weight given that draft, get four or six external flotation devices to take the brunt of the stability, and then proceed to empty it.

every thing about this very expensive, very tricky and potentially risky to human life. so while there is no immediate threat, lets survey this thing well, and then decide some options.

[Country_Bookie]

DialSingh say let the oil leak out.... it will prevent allyuh irresponsible trinis from going to the beach during covid-19.

[Redman]

repeated pics of the vessel showing its consistently in the same attitude. it doesnt seem to be leaking. they have a tug there propping it, they have a lot of chains. imo, we have some time before it becomes immediate. so we can approach the situation systematically and diplomatically.
what we gonna do, empty it and tow it, or tow it and then empty it?
connecting another vessel to it while it seems to not be balancing well, and then changing its weight distribution, seems quite tricky. i personally would not put humans on board that while emptying it. i would opt to calculate a weight given that draft, get four or six external flotation devices to take the brunt of the stability, and then proceed to empty it.

every thing about this very expensive, very tricky and potentially risky to human life. so while there is no immediate threat, lets survey this thing well, and then decide some options.

Eni is saying that the leak is resolved and the vessel stable....they seem to have personnel on board...so why not pump the water out?

Isn’t this a great way to force the ease of sanctions in order to sell the oil?

I think there is some gamesmanship in the mix

[sMASH]

repeated pics of the vessel showing its consistently in the same attitude. it doesnt seem to be leaking. they have a tug there propping it, they have a lot of chains. imo, we have some time before it becomes immediate. so we can approach the situation systematically and diplomatically.
what we gonna do, empty it and tow it, or tow it and then empty it?
connecting another vessel to it while it seems to not be balancing well, and then changing its weight distribution, seems quite tricky. i personally would not put humans on board that while emptying it. i would opt to calculate a weight given that draft, get four or six external flotation devices to take the brunt of the stability, and then proceed to empty it.

every thing about this very expensive, very tricky and potentially risky to human life. so while there is no immediate threat, lets survey this thing well, and then decide some options.

Eni is saying that the leak is resolved and the vessel stable....they seem to have personnel on board...so why not pump the water out?

Isn’t this a great way to force the ease of sanctions in order to sell the oil?

I think there is some gamesmanship in the mix

that is why getting answer's to duane's question should be very interesting. america wants regime change. it wants oil rights but oil rights on THEIR terms too. this a lil too diplomatic and sneaky for them. they prefer to go the militant route as it gets them to show thier might and sell some guns and bombs.

[Redman]

Based on what I read the vessel is a storage unit and a transshipment point.

With the sanctions transshipments stopped.

So they park up 30M usd of oil and waiting.

[pugboy]

guyana is using similar method for their oil, piping it from offshore well to sea storage site and tankers unloading it from there

[Ripe Chenette]

Thing going to start to leak Venezuela obviously don't care and since it in their water we cant just barge in or ask for assitance to clean it out since we going into their water.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

There's a petition
https://www.change.org/p/government-of- ... -oil-spill
but I'm not sure what this petition or any amount of extra awareness can do to help

Can the UN step in?

[zoom rader]

guyana is using similar method for their oil, piping it from offshore well to sea storage site and tankers unloading it from there

Actually worked on one of those rig/ships (Curlew FPSO).

Each ship load was $4million at that time. Every 4 to 5 weeks they pump from sea bed and store in holding. Then a tanker would come and they would transfer from rig to tanker.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

This is a simulation of a hypothetical oil spill from the tanker. Made with NOAA-GNOME model and 20k barrels of medium oil. Wind and current conditions for Oct 17th 2020



Saw it sharing on socials
https://response.restoration.noaa.gov/o ... eling.html

[RedVEVO]

guyana is using similar method for their oil, piping it from offshore well to sea storage site and tankers unloading it from there

Actually worked on one of those rig/ships (Curlew FPSO).

Each ship load was $4million at that time. Every 4 to 5 weeks they pump from sea bed and store in holding. Then a tanker would come and they would transfer from rig to tanker.

Interesting

https://www.oedigital.com/news/479328-a ... urlew-fpso

[adnj]

There's a petition
https://www.change.org/p/government-of- ... -oil-spill
but I'm not sure what this petition or any amount of extra awareness can do to help

Can the UN step in?

This type of issue gets presented before the World Court at The Hague.

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In the international law in the course of time a comprehensive regulatory regime on prevention of marine oil pollution (particularly oil spills) was developed. Special attention was paid to the regulation of marine oil pollution by shipping (Salter & Ford, 2001), so the existing rules cover mostly vessel-source pollution. The most effective instruments in the marine environment protection are regional treaties. Almost all regional treaties include a general obligation for signatory states to prevent, reduce and control all forms of maritime pollution.

In the Helsinki convention[1] - 

http://www.helcom.fi/Convention/en_GB/text/

and the Convention for the Protection of the Marine Environment of the North-East Atlantic (OSPAR Convention)[1] -

http://www.ospar.org/html_documents/osp ... t_2007.pdf

one can find more concrete clauses like the precautionary concept, polluter pays concept, best available technology, and best environmental practice.

https://www.intechopen.com/books/sustai ... mental-law

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

There's a petition
https://www.change.org/p/government-of- ... -oil-spill
but I'm not sure what this petition or any amount of extra awareness can do to help

Can the UN step in?

This type of issue gets presented before the World Court at The Hague.

------------

In the international law in the course of time a comprehensive regulatory regime on prevention of marine oil pollution (particularly oil spills) was developed. Special attention was paid to the regulation of marine oil pollution by shipping (Salter & Ford, 2001), so the existing rules cover mostly vessel-source pollution. The most effective instruments in the marine environment protection are regional treaties. Almost all regional treaties include a general obligation for signatory states to prevent, reduce and control all forms of maritime pollution.

In the Helsinki convention[1] - 

http://www.helcom.fi/Convention/en_GB/text/

and the Convention for the Protection of the Marine Environment of the North-East Atlantic (OSPAR Convention)[1] -

http://www.ospar.org/html_documents/osp ... t_2007.pdf

one can find more concrete clauses like the precautionary concept, polluter pays concept, best available technology, and best environmental practice.

https://www.intechopen.com/books/sustai ... mental-law

Good info.
Venezuela is already under sanctions though.

Based on this NOAA model, Venezuela will be most affected

[zoom rader]

guyana is using similar method for their oil, piping it from offshore well to sea storage site and tankers unloading it from there

Actually worked on one of those rig/ships (Curlew FPSO).

Each ship load was $4million at that time. Every 4 to 5 weeks they pump from sea bed and store in holding. Then a tanker would come and they would transfer from rig to tanker.

Interesting

https://www.oedigital.com/news/479328-a ... urlew-fpso

Yup that's her

Was there in 2014 for about 6 months
She was a total rust bucket and crappy place to work.

[K74T]

Questionable Temporary Relief

Fishermen and Friends of the Sea(FFOS) have today received unconfirmed reports with pictures from our Venezuelan counterparts that the FSO Nabarima is now ‘temporarily stable’.

It appears from the enclosed unverified photos that the FSO Nabarima is no longer leaning/ listing dangerously on the starboard but is floating upright at sea level. We are informed that over the weekend,the water that was seeping into the bow and ballast tank was pumped out.

The imposed US sanctions which prevented the Maduro Regime from selling this oil have now been temporarily relaxed to facilitate this environmental emergency. FFOS question whether this environmental threat/danger is being intentionally staged by the Maduro Regime to use as leveragein order to trade the 1.3M barrels of crude oil on the international market.

Whether this impending disaster was provoked or not, this is a temporary relief and more needs to be done! The structural integrity of the FSO Nabarima is compromised,all the oil must be transferred to eliminate any chance of spillage and environmental decimation of our shared Gulf of Paria. The FSO Nabarima has been anchored in this location for 15 years and hasnot been maintained in the past three years. Temporary relief is insufficientand with immediate effect FFOS respectfully request:

1) The assembly of an Independent team of experts to verify and make public the vessels status , to propose a method of safely removing the 1.3M barrels of oil stored within and to advise of permanent repairs which are immediately required.

2) Aunified Latin America and CARICOM effort to develop and implement a RegionalOil Spill Contingency Plan that will address situations like this which are inevitable due to the increase in oil exploration and extraction in the Region such as Guyana, Barbados and Bahamas.

Until our Government and RegionalLeaders act with urgency, the looming threat of the FSO Nabarima could potentially cause a major environmental genocide in our Gulf of Paria which will destroy our Caribbean tourism product.
FFOS will continue to monitor this imminent threat. #ffos #nabarima #oilspillthreat #urgent

[snypaz]

FFOS deleted this post while I was reading it. Makes you wonder why.

[Redman]

FFOS deleted this post while I was reading it. Makes you wonder why.

Cuz he whining.

[Kenjo]

FFOS deleted this post while I was reading it. Makes you wonder why.

Probably he should make a trip back out , possibly it was older pics ?

[teems1]

The tilt doesn't look anywhere near as bad as it did in the youtube video.

How old are these pics?

[eliteauto]

FFOS deleted this post while I was reading it. Makes you wonder why.

The comments about this possibility being intentional are out of the remit of FFOS. Now they're delving into geopolitics

[Redress10]

Delusional bunch of ppl

[RedVEVO]

guyana is using similar method for their oil, piping it from offshore well to sea storage site and tankers unloading it from there

Actually worked on one of those rig/ships (Curlew FPSO).

Each ship load was $4million at that time. Every 4 to 5 weeks they pump from sea bed and store in holding. Then a tanker would come and they would transfer from rig to tanker.

Interesting

https://www.oedigital.com/news/479328-a ... urlew-fpso

Yup that's her

Was there in 2014 for about 6 months
She was a total rust bucket and crappy place to work.

Well you are definitely the expert here ..

So doesn't that Venezuelan Storage Ship have double hull etc. ?

FFSO is correct or all this is drama ?

[zoom rader]

guyana is using similar method for their oil, piping it from offshore well to sea storage site and tankers unloading it from there

Actually worked on one of those rig/ships (Curlew FPSO).

Each ship load was $4million at that time. Every 4 to 5 weeks they pump from sea bed and store in holding. Then a tanker would come and they would transfer from rig to tanker.

Interesting

https://www.oedigital.com/news/479328-a ... urlew-fpso

Yup that's her

Was there in 2014 for about 6 months
She was a total rust bucket and crappy place to work.

Well you are definitely the expert here ..

So doesn't that Venezuelan Storage Ship have double hull etc. ?

FFSO is correct or all this is drama ?

It all depends on the age of the vessel , the older ones are not equipt with double hulls, these are pre 1990 .

Tankers normaly last about 25 years and because of insurance they are scrapped.

They would need to transfer the oil out on to another tanker.

[snypaz]

According to reports online, Another tanker owned by Eni is on it's way to pump the oil out of the floating storage.

[The_Honourable]

Update: Nabarima photos fake, situation still critical, says FFOS

Update October 19, 2020 4:54 pm:

Photos which appeared to show that oil storage vessel, the FSO Nabarima, had recently been stabilised are false, says conservation group Fishermen and Friends of the Sea.

The group shared an update comparing the photos to footage shared from reconnaissance the group undertook on October 16:



'Upon further inspection of the pictures sent to us which we released earlier today and based on information obtained from independent experts who we have been in constant contact with, Fishermen and Friends of the Sea (FFOS) retract the statement issued to the press and onto our social media earlier today 19th October, 2020, which intimated that the FSO Nabarima was temporarily stabilized and that the water was pumped out. However, we still maintain that the FSO Nabarima is being used as leverage by the Maduro Regime to ease current US Sanctions.'

'In the photographs taken by ourselves on the 16th of October there is a huge rust spot on the port side of the vessel’s hull , which is not evident on the pictures sent to us by our Venezuelan contact (see enclosed).'

'Secondly, our expert has informed us, the picture sent today shows a hull that is in a well maintained state, whilst the pictures obtained by FFOS show a hull which is not.'

'Thirdly, it is inconceivable that the FSO Nabarima was pumped out in only 2-3 days. In today’s photos, there is no evidence of water being pumped overboard which should have been very visible. Our expert contact also noted that the vessel’s “bilge” discharge would have created an oil slick which is absent in the photos. As such, it is our respectful view that the pictures sent to us today were taken at a far earlier date. (See enclosed photos) . We apologize for this misinformation however note that this is exactly why for the past 60 days, we have appealed to PM Rowley to get first hand verifiable information.'

The group said it eagerly awaits the result of the planned vessel inspection tomorrow:

'These allegedly fake photos are misleading and point to a greater risk that the Maduro regime are determined to cover this up and deceive fearful stakeholders on the truth. If the Maduro regime is prepared to continue to maintain their trickery it is critical that our Government’s mission tomorrow be transparent with photo and video evidence to the population of Trinidad and Tobago. Any failure on their part will speak to their abdication of their oaths to protect Trinidad and Tobago and its citizens and at worst, their complicity with the blatant and repeated lies of the Maduro Government.'

'FFOS urgently await our Governments “expert” report and urge the Institute of Marine Affairs, who will be on this excursion to perform a fingerprint analysis on the oil, so that in the event of a spill, we would know whether the oil came from the FSO Nabarima.'

'We also urge our Minister of Foreign Affairs to consider the placement of someone with expertise in ship maintenance and repair onto this team of experts to ensure that a proper understanding of the vessel’s state is obtained and possible permanent solutions are advised.'

The Ministry of Foreign and CARICOM Affairs said a team of experts would be permitted to inspect the vessel, which was said to be at capacity and carrying approximately 1.3 million barrels of oil, on October 20.

On October 17, FFOS Corporate Secretary Gary Aboud shared a video of the listing vessel, which was said to be at capacity, after venturing into Venezuelan waters.

The video received half a million views on YouTube, with many calling for urgent action.

A petition has also been launched online with over 13,000 signatures as of this morning.

Source: https://www.looptt.com/content/us-embas ... o-nabarima

[redmanjp]

Gary Aboud is on BBC NEWS on 98.7 now talking about this

[zoom rader]

Gary Aboud is on BBC NEWS on 98.7 now talking about this

BBC is UNC bro

[mero]

Gary Aboud is on BBC NEWS on 98.7 now talking about this

BBC is UNC bro

SBC

[dogg]

https://twitter.com/GretaThunberg/statu ... 4014088195

[Dohplaydat]

Gary Aboud is on BBC NEWS on 98.7 now talking about this

BBC is UNC bro

I must say Gary is doing a tremendous job at exposing this matter to the world.