COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker (News and Updates) (Poll added)

[Habit7]

Firstly that list has 134 countries, there are at least 190 countries. Plus they are including territories like Jersey, Gibraltar, Bermuda which are not countries. There are several countries, not listed in that list that have 0 vaccinations. T&T is not 6th to last.

Secondly, this is not a PNM vs UNC issue. There is a limited supply of vaccines and all the "woke" first world countries gobbling them up first like good capitalists. The only reason why some countries have vaccines is due to donations from Russia, China and India. Both Rowley and Kamla asked for T&T and India blanked us and not responding to the local press.

There is nothing PNM or UNC can do at this point but wait in our position in the line. As grateful as our Caribbean neighbours are, when their vaccines are done, they are in the same position as us. This is global politics and Big Pharma. If your naive to believe that something within T&T is causing this then you are free to have your opinions.

We can differ on doubles economics but the reality of covid-19 vaccine inequity is beyond T&T and I wish Trinis were more informed. https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/ ... ity-soars/

[Dohplaydat]

Firstly that list has 134 countries, there are at least 190 countries. Plus they are including territories like Jersey, Gibraltar, Bermuda which are not countries. There are several countries, not listed in that list that have 0 vaccinations. T&T is not 6th to last.

Secondly, this is not a PNM vs UNC issue. There is a limited supply of vaccines and all the "woke" first world countries gobbling them up first like good capitalists. The only reason why some countries have vaccines is due to donations from Russia, China and India. Both Rowley and Kamla asked for T&T and India blanked us and not responding to the local press.

There is nothing PNM or UNC can do at this point but wait in our position in the line. As grateful as our Caribbean neighbours are, when their vaccines are done, they are in the same position as us. This is global politics and Big Pharma. If your naive to believe that something within T&T is causing this then you are free to have your opinions.

We can differ on doubles economics but the reality of covid-19 vaccine inequity is beyond T&T and I wish Trinis were more informed. https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/ ... ity-soars/

Habit7,

While this is the case, it doesn't explain why we are still so far behind. Aren't we a rich country that could have easily paid for 2-3M vaccines?

Lebanon, Kuwait, Peru, Kazakhstan, Panama etc have secured similar number of vaccines (2-3M). Why do you continue to make execuses for your governments failure.

all this pressure on the govt over not being the first to order vaccines... look at all the first-world countries (Germany, France, Italy, Spain) putting the AZ vaccine on pause over safety concerns. Those countries have far higher case loads than T&T and they are -- PUTTING THE ASTRAZENECA VACCINE ON HOLD -- pending investigation.

I personally looking out for only FDA approved vaccines. Pfizer, Moderna, the same kind they giving out by the hundreds of millions in the USA. When Superpharm get it, I will pay a big morney and take my shot of the good juice.

You need to research those safety concerns though, the occurance of blood clots in those who got the vaccine is actually lower than regular incidence of blood clots. It's the hyperattention being drawn onto any medical issue that forced them to put it on hold until they properly evaluate it. However, it's a quite an alarmist reaction and it could have easily been one of those FDA approved vaccines facing this same scrutiny.

I myself ideally want the Pfizer or JJ vaccine, but I'd settle for the Moderna or Astrazeneca. The Chinese and Russian vaccine have yet to be reviewed properly (at least outside of thier countries) so i'd be wary about taking those.

[adnj]

Firstly that list has 134 countries, there are at least 190 countries. Plus they are including territories like Jersey, Gibraltar, Bermuda which are not countries. There are several countries, not listed in that list that have 0 vaccinations. T&T is not 6th to last.

Secondly, this is not a PNM vs UNC issue. There is a limited supply of vaccines and all the "woke" first world countries gobbling them up first like good capitalists. The only reason why some countries have vaccines is due to donations from Russia, China and India. Both Rowley and Kamla asked for T&T and India blanked us and not responding to the local press.

There is nothing PNM or UNC can do at this point but wait in our position in the line. As grateful as our Caribbean neighbours are, when their vaccines are done, they are in the same position as us. This is global politics and Big Pharma. If your naive to believe that something within T&T is causing this then you are free to have your opinions.

This makes no sense, why are so behind still them compared to everyone else?

126 countries, many smaller and more poor are beating us soundly. Stop making excuses.

Well as I said before many of those "countries" are not countries. And they received donations from larger countries. When covid-19 is over, these pharmaceutical companies know where they make their money and will prioritised them over us.

Think of it like a doubles man. If you eating doubles one by one and ppl coming and ordering 6+ doubles you will find yourself waiting. While you think it is easy for him to slip in you one doubles, he is serving his bigger, higher paying orders first.

Trinidad and Tobago currently ranks at 130 at another metric: number of deaths per million people.

So while some people may or may not appreciate the reasoning behind medicating the most infected population first, that is exactly what epidemiologists prefer to do. And that is exactly what is being done.

[Habit7]

Firstly that list has 134 countries, there are at least 190 countries. Plus they are including territories like Jersey, Gibraltar, Bermuda which are not countries. There are several countries, not listed in that list that have 0 vaccinations. T&T is not 6th to last.

Secondly, this is not a PNM vs UNC issue. There is a limited supply of vaccines and all the "woke" first world countries gobbling them up first like good capitalists. The only reason why some countries have vaccines is due to donations from Russia, China and India. Both Rowley and Kamla asked for T&T and India blanked us and not responding to the local press.

There is nothing PNM or UNC can do at this point but wait in our position in the line. As grateful as our Caribbean neighbours are, when their vaccines are done, they are in the same position as us. This is global politics and Big Pharma. If your naive to believe that something within T&T is causing this then you are free to have your opinions.

We can differ on doubles economics but the reality of covid-19 vaccine inequity is beyond T&T and I wish Trinis were more informed. https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/ ... ity-soars/

Habit7,

While this is the case, it doesn't explain why we are still so far behind. Aren't we a rich country that could have easily paid for 2-3M vaccines?

Lebanon, Kuwait, Peru, Kazakhstan, Panama etc have secured similar number of vaccines (2-3M). Why do you continue to make execuses for your governments failure.

Lebanon, Kuwait, Peru, Kazakhstan, Panama all have populations greater than 2-3M. There is no warehouse with WHO approved vaccines that T&T is not tapping into. We are not being prioritised because of our size and low spread. This is not an excuse for PNM, this is a problem for many other small countries around the world. Stop being so small-minded.

[DMan7]

Guys, what happened to us getting vaccines through the COVAX facility? What has happened to that?

Well it looks like Jamaica is the first Caribbean country to receive the vaccines through the COVAX facility.


https://www.paho.org/en/news/15-3-2021- ... ough-covax

[redmanjp]

ok but we are part of caricom- so why caricom as a bigger entity which has had some countries including jamaica with high spread can't order a larger amt of vaccines? that takes care of both the size issue as well as the level of infection which is limiting our access

[Habit7]

Long before we had a centralised Caricom position, individual members were dealing directly with suppliers. But even if Caricom got a collective order, how will it be distributed? Does Haiti get the most because their population is the biggest while they have lower cases? Does Jamaica get the most because their cases are the worst? Does T&T get minimum because we are one of the best in terms of cases per capita? Or do we do it by financial contribution and commit the same thing that we criticising the world for, the richer countries buying up and avoiding the poorer countries?

[Dohplaydat]

Long before we had a centralised Caricom position, individual members were dealing directly with suppliers. But even if Caricom got a collective order, how will it be distributed? Does Haiti get the most because their population is the biggest while they have lower cases? Does Jamaica get the most because their cases are the worst? Does T&T get minimum because we are one of the best in terms of cases per capita? Or do we do it by financial contribution and commit the same thing that we criticising the world for, the richer countries buying up and avoiding the poorer countries?

Make problems not solutions, that is the PNM.

[Kay_B]

Long before we had a centralised Caricom position, individual members were dealing directly with suppliers. But even if Caricom got a collective order, how will it be distributed? Does Haiti get the most because their population is the biggest while they have lower cases? Does Jamaica get the most because their cases are the worst? Does T&T get minimum because we are one of the best in terms of cases per capita? Or do we do it by financial contribution and commit the same thing that we criticising the world for, the richer countries buying up and avoiding the poorer countries?

The vaccine was first received by those who gave money for its development and initial production, those who were the first to order the vaccine. That's all the logic.

[Habit7]

Actually, in Oct 2020 Caribbean states through CARPHA ordered vaccines as a group from COVAX. T&T and some others put in their own share of the downpayment but some countries including Jamaica had to get help from the EU to put their share of the downpayment. So even though we paid for COVAX as a group, Jamaica is getting theirs first. Some will say they need it first, others would disagree, but this is beyond T&T's control at this moment.
https://izzso.com/carpha-makes-downpaym ... -the-list/

[redmanjp]

we can't depend on covax if it is they are prioritizing highly infected countries- so other initiatives are/were needed while we wait on covax

[Habit7]

we can't depend on covax if it is they are prioritizing highly infected countries- so other initiatives are/were needed while we wait on covax

https://newsday.co.tt/2021/02/06/deyals ... ne-makers/

[Kay_B]

we can't depend on covax if it is they are prioritizing highly infected countries- so other initiatives are/were needed while we wait on covax

And many liters of vaccine doses will be allocated to this program? WHO will not carry out raider seizures of vaccines. There are still existing supply contracts that were paid for long before the vaccine was tested.

[De Dragon]

Excuses is all the LFD RFD PNM and their sycophants are good for.
People were misled to believe that hundreds of thousands of doses were to be had in March 2021. Now that it is not happening, all kinds of stories, differing ones from JUHN Scarfy and Salt War Man to boot , are only making the whole thing look more screwed up than it is, and has people questioning whether there was anything in place in the first place.

[zoom rader]

Excuses is all the LFD RFD PNM and their sycophants are good for.
People were misled to believe that hundreds of thousands of doses were to be had in March 2021. Now that it is not happening, all kinds of stories, differing ones from JUHN Scarfy and Salt War Man to boot , are only making the whole thing look more screwed up than it is, and has people questioning whether there was anything in place in the first place.

seems only Ghana Vaccine can work in Trinidad

[sMASH]

deliesingh pay money to join the curry cue for vaccines, that why the other smaller countries that supposed to be getting over passed for vaccines by the bigger countries, getting vaccines.

another tail from the mailbox.
*we pay money upfront to get vaccines first, by february we getting ting, dawg*
*oh look, other countries getting it first*
*well, the bigger countries jumping the cue and bootsing out the smaller ones, thats why we not getting*
*oh look, small countries getting it,and from caricom too, and sharing with we we too*
*wellll, ramble ramble ramble, they sign up first*
*oh, didnt u say we pay early?*
*nah, bruh, by may we getting*
*i have trust issues now*
*kamala kamala kamala kamala*


south park makes more sense than pnm

[Dohplaydat]

Bad news for PNMites

[Habit7]

Bad news for PNMitesScreenshot_20210318_123647.jpg

We were there like 5 days ago

Even as the World Health Organisation (WHO) continues to investigate if recent blood clotting incidents in patients from certain countries in the European Union (EU) was a direct cause of the AstraZeneca vaccine, local health officials have assured T&T can go ahead with rolling out this vaccine to its population.

https://guardian.co.tt/news/tt-goes-ahe ... 37a77c1685

[Dohplaydat]

Bad news for PNMitesScreenshot_20210318_123647.jpg

We were there like 5 days ago

Even as the World Health Organisation (WHO) continues to investigate if recent blood clotting incidents in patients from certain countries in the European Union (EU) was a direct cause of the AstraZeneca vaccine, local health officials have assured T&T can go ahead with rolling out this vaccine to its population.

https://guardian.co.tt/news/tt-goes-ahe ... 37a77c1685

Spin in circles in my good friend.

[redmanjp]

Long before we had a centralised Caricom position, individual members were dealing directly with suppliers. But even if Caricom got a collective order, how will it be distributed? Does Haiti get the most because their population is the biggest while they have lower cases? Does Jamaica get the most because their cases are the worst? Does T&T get minimum because we are one of the best in terms of cases per capita? Or do we do it by financial contribution and commit the same thing that we criticising the world for, the richer countries buying up and avoiding the poorer countries?

proportional to population sizes. covax addressing the high risk countries already. so we pay down for enough doses for half a million ppl which should cover all at risk ppl plus essential workers. then by may when more supply becomes available put in another order for the rest of the population

[adnj]

Biden will send Mexico surplus vaccine, as U.S. seeks help on immigration enforcement

The Biden administration has agreed to supply Mexico with excess doses of coronavirus vaccine, and Mexico is moving to help the United States contain a migration surge along its southern border, according to senior officials from both countries involved in the conversations.

The decision to send AstraZeneca vaccine to Mexico as well as to Canada is expected to be announced Friday. Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador and Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau had asked President Biden to help them fill vaccine shortfalls in recent talks.

Mexican and U.S. officials who described the agreement said it was not a quid pro quo conditioning the delivery of vaccine doses on an enforcement crackdown. Rather, the United States made clear it sought help from Mexico managing a record influx of Central American teenagers and children. Mexico pledged to take back more Central American families “expelled” under a U.S. emergency health order, while also urging Biden to share the U.S. vaccine supply, said the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the conversations.

The European Medicines Agency on March 18 said the benefits of the vaccine far outweighed the risks, while adding it can't rule out a link to rare blood clots. (Joshua Carroll/The Washington Post)

“Our top priority remains vaccinating the U.S. population, but the reality is that this virus knows no borders, and ensuring our neighbors can contain the virus is mission-critical to protecting the health and economic security of Americans and for stopping the spread of covid-19 around the globe,” a White House official said.

While cautioning the plan was “not fully finalized yet,” as details are worked out with AstraZeneca, White House spokesperson Jen Psaki told reporters that of 7 million “releasable” doses of the vaccine in the government stockpile, the plan is to send 2.5 million to Mexico and 1.5 million to Canada. Repayment of the “loan,” she said, “could be future AstraZeneca doses, or other doses.”

On Thursday, after this story was published, Mexican Foreign Minister Marcelo Ebrard confirmed that Mexico would receive vaccine from the United States.

https://news.google.com/articles/CBMipw ... id=US%3Aen

[redmanjp]

https://newsday.co.tt/2021/03/18/rowley-we-will-not-beg-for-free-vaccines/

[zoom rader]

In a Land where P()rnHabit 7 and Rowliar boasts about defunked Petrotrin makin 0.8 Billion and stealing 1.5 Billion from our HSF . all of this and this little banana republics have to beg for Vaccines .


Well done you idiots

[sMASH]

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

LOL

[sMASH]

loll.

[redmanjp]

so we 2 weeks away from getting the first batch. hopefully

[redmanjp]

https://guardian.co.tt/news/pm-tt-never-told-of-access-to-india-vaccine-donation-6.2.1303686.22ad8825ac

[bluefete]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... 070&type=3

[zoom rader]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... 070&type=3

This is what P¤rnhabit 7 defending ?