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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby matr1x » October 24th, 2020, 11:41 am

I flushed a turd that looks like him once

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby MaxPower » October 24th, 2020, 12:16 pm

matr1x wrote:I flushed a turd that looks like him once


Slim,

Be nice.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby aaron17 » October 24th, 2020, 12:17 pm

Bruhh

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Rovin » October 24th, 2020, 12:32 pm

matr1x wrote:I flushed a turd that looks like him once


:shock:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


man break d age 69 "curse" of his predecessors


d good die young & d evil tuff like ah cockroach it doh dead so easy .... :|
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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby K74T » October 24th, 2020, 12:32 pm

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Why do you continue to give yourself these ridiculous nicknames?

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby matr1x » October 24th, 2020, 12:46 pm

K74T wrote:
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Walking vomit
Why do you continue to give yourself these ridiculous nicknames?



In manning days, they used to call JUHN, bumbum toolum. Not my words

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby mero » October 24th, 2020, 2:01 pm

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Why do you continue to give yourself these ridiculous nicknames?
Lord Smegma respects no one

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby De Dragon » October 24th, 2020, 9:27 pm

Lemme make it simple for you because it appears that comprehension continues to be a challenge to you, although I suspect it will in no way dissipate your dotishness :roll: . JUHN Scarfy/Back Door were informed by Baroness Scotland that due to their FAILURE to do the pre-work, or indeed to even appoint the focal point, that the mission had to be scrubbed, the day before a 14 day quarantine would have been possible. No amount of spin, or semantics can alter the actual words used by Scotland, so try again.
Redman wrote:I dunno if its wilful on your part....but it is constant.


You own article quotes the Commonwealth spokesperson indicating in simple english that they couldn't afford the 14 day quarantine.

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eliteauto wrote:Valid points smash but I don't think the election date was planned for when it came, the government needed a large enough distraction from the protests/gang unification that if allowed to continue would have damaged them politically. No small distraction was gonna cut it so call the election. Also wasn't the cost of quarantine and the duration of same some of the reasons advanced for the non attendance of observers? Would any time have been more convenient to the Commonwealth?

So the British/Bajans are paying their own way? :roll:
Cost was NEVER the reason, the Commonwealth itself said the failures of the PNM to put certain measures in place in time was the sole reason.


Yep...as usual spot on. :roll:

THE COMMONWEALTH Secretariat is mum on sending an election observer mission to TT but assures it stands ready to assist all members in upholding the values of free and fair elections “wherever possible and practicable.”

It declined to comment on statements by the Prime Minister on the secretariat’s inability to send an observer mission for the August 10 general election because of the costs involved with covid19 quarantine and border closure restrictions.

In response to questions from Newsday, a Commonwealth spokesman said: “We don’t give a running commentary on these types of issues and communications between member states and the Secretariat are obviously confidential.

“However, it is important to note that the global covid19 crisis, and its health, social and economic impacts, have created unprecedented pressures upon governments and societies and extensive restrictions on the normal travel of people and groups between countries.

“The Commonwealth places an extremely high value on our work to support democracy in all our member states and expects all of our members to abide by our values in support of free and fair elections.

“We always stand ready to assist all our members in upholding these values and to support elections through observation missions wherever possible and practicable.”

Willfully dotish as usual :roll:
Trinidad Express, august 18th 2020
Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley said yesterday he took umbrage at the Opposition Leader’s misrepresentation of facts surrounding the absence of observer missions for the Trinidad and Tobago general election.

“It is being said that I, as Prime Minister, did not invite observers to come here and that I took steps to prevent them from coming. I have seen it written by columnists who have no regard for the facts...writing that the Government prevented observers from coming or did not invite observers. I just want to dismiss that...for the folly that it is,” Rowley said at a news conference at the Balisier House, Port of Spain.

The Prime Minis­ter said very soon after calling the election, he took steps to invite Caricom and the Commonwealth secretariats to send observers for the election, and both agencies indicated their willingness to come.






“Having initially indicated at first cut that they would accommodate us, in trying to do that, both agencies had difficulties at their end and also in complying with our requests at this end, with respect to the arrival of any such person or persons who they would send,” he said.

He said the Commonwealth Secretariat faced financial constraints in meeting the cost of the 14-day quarantine and asked for assistance from the T&T Government. But the Prime Minister said the Government could not fund people who were coming in to examine its election process. “You can’t pay your own judge to adjudicate on your own case,” he said.

He said the Government therefore sought to get Canada and the UK, two other Commonwealth countries, to participate in providing the funding, which was the obstacle to the Commonwealth Secretariat in having the observer mission coming here.

“But we didn’t get very far with that because it was an unusual request, which was considered in some quarters, and by the time we got responses to that, it was too late. In the case of the Caricom mission, the Caricom Secretariat was only able to source three persons, which the secretary felt was not sufficient for an observer mission, he said.

‘More persons on the ground’

According to the documents released on the Prime Minister’s website, the Prime Minister sent a letter to Caricom Secretary-General Irwin LaRocque on July 9, inviting Caricom to send an election observation mission.

He indicated because of the management of the pandemic, the T&T borders were closed and the observation mission would need to arrive in T&T no later than July 24 to facilitate the 14-days of State-supervised quarantine.

He said election observers would need to apply for and obtain an exemption to enable entry into this country, and such a request would be considered “with dispatch”.

The Prime Minister received a letter of acknowledgement the next day, July 10, along with another correspondence, in which the secre­tary-general alerted the foreign affairs ministers of the 14 Caricom member states and the ambassadors to member states, and the director-general of the Organisation of Eastern Caribbean States (OECS), to the T&T Government’s request and the conditions associated with it, including the need to arrive in T&T by July 24 in order to facilitate the 14-day State-supervised mandatory quarantine.

The correspondence advised only one national per member state was to be submitted and the individual should “preferably” be a senior electoral officer or very experienced in electoral monitoring. This latter document was signed by Assistant Secretary General Colin Granderson.


Exchanges between LaRocque and Foreign and Caricom Affairs Minister Dennis Moses on July 22 and on July 25 said there were only three members, and LaRocque was not sure how effectively they would be able to observe polling day.

“We need a minimum 10, preferably 15, given the number of polling stations and geographical location dispersion... .We need to have more persons on the ground,” LaRocque said.

Commonwealth documents

According to the documents, Secretary-General of the Commonwealth Baroness Patricia Scotland, by letter dated July 14, responded to the Prime Minister’s July 9 letter notifying her of the T&T elections and inviting the Commonwealth to deploy a Commonwealth Observer Group.

She said while the Covid-19 pandemic “posed unprecedented logistical and practical challenges, we are committed to making every possible effort to enable us to respond positively to your request for an observation mission...

“Thus I have instructed my officials to work with your authorities to make every effort to overcome any logistical or other challenges, in order to facilitate the presence of a Commonwealth Observer Group for the 10 August national parliamentary elections,” Scotland said.

She added while the Commonwealth Secretariat would be able to meet the costs of the observer mission in the usual way, “its straitened financial position is such that we would not be able to provide funding to cover a 14-day period of quarantine.

“I have therefore instructed my officials to discuss this matter with yours, and it would be most helpful if the Government of Trinidad and Tobago were able to offer assistance.”

She said the Commonwealth Secretariat would be grateful if the Government would nominate a separate focal point, with whom Commonwealth Secretary officials could liaise to discuss the necessary logistical arrangements pertinent to the Covid-19 environment.

In a letter to Moses dated July 23, Scotland said the secretariat had potential observers on stand-by, and officials had made every effort to put in place potential arrangements, including logistical arrangements, hotel bookings, available flights, etc, to attend to this important invitation.

“Sadly, I understand that a focal point has not yet been communica­ted and this is essential for the deployment of our mission. Given the current circumstances, it does not seem possible to deploy them by Friday, July 24, as there are critical arrangements that should have been made with the focal point prior to deploying. I remain committed to deploying a Commonwealth Observer Group if the necessary arrangements and protocols can be agreed,” Scotland said.

Apparently in response, in a letter dated July 23, Moses said the ministry advised the permanent secretary of the ministry “stands ready and is available to be the focal point requested by the Secretary General.... Additionally, the Chief of Protocol will serve as an alternate focal point. Contact details of the focal point and alternate focal point are enclosed as is information requested by the Secretary General”.

The numbers of the PS, Reita Toussaint, and Chief of Protocol, Kiva Clarke, were provided, along with the Covid testing requirements, the availability of flights, measures to reduce the risk of Covid exposure, measures for facilitating election observation, namely freedom of movement and access to relevant elector processes and material, electors actors; and the designation of a focal point from the Ministry of Foreign and Caricom Affairs to assist with contacts.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Redman » October 25th, 2020, 8:00 am

How is it spin??Im stating what Scotland wrote in her official correspondence..all Ive done is show where Ms Scotlands own communication contradicts your opinion.

Its her words that say they cant afford the 14 day quarantine.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby K74T » October 29th, 2020, 9:40 am

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » October 29th, 2020, 10:20 am

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More tax in all yuh MC

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby K74T » October 29th, 2020, 11:01 am

Well baiyya it go be your mc too. It's your government as well, whether you voted for them or not.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby daxt0r » October 29th, 2020, 11:13 am

https://newsday.co.tt/2020/10/29/evicte ... squatters/
Lolz, tek wa allyuh vote for.
Cya wait for the PM to crush DSS now, from evictions to lost money, jobs, livelihood, etc , d PNM real givin back to it's core supporters boy, and boy we know dem eh like nothing better dan abuse, gr8 time to wave d balisier and chant great is d PNM.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby MaxPower » October 29th, 2020, 11:40 am

zoom rader wrote:
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Hello zoom,

Why is more tax is bad thing?

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » October 29th, 2020, 12:06 pm

MaxPower wrote:
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Hello zoom,

Why is more tax is bad thing?
If the money is spent on improving citizens life's and an ease of getting services I don't have a problem.

But look at the Jeeps that they are buying and lavish goverment wasting.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby maj. tom » October 29th, 2020, 12:15 pm

Remember that UNC did it too, so two wrongs always make a right.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Redman » October 29th, 2020, 12:20 pm

daxt0r wrote:https://newsday.co.tt/2020/10/29/evicted-from-petrotrin-houses-families-say-we-are-not-squatters/
Lolz, tek wa allyuh vote for.
Cya wait for the PM to crush DSS now, from evictions to lost money, jobs, livelihood, etc , d PNM real givin back to it's core supporters boy, and boy we know dem eh like nothing better dan abuse, gr8 time to wave d balisier and chant great is d PNM.


Home owners on that street were being threatened- owners come home to find the 'landlord', who identifies himself as the owner...putting up 'no trespass' signs up....the owner(30+ years) chases the guy.
Next day the place is set afire and aircons stolen.

Those folks all knew they were involved in racket.
No empathy given.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby death365 » October 29th, 2020, 12:21 pm

Taxes are government stealing from u.

Well taxes are stealing
and I get the feeling that were gettin f**kd in the ass
They take what they want to whenever they want to
And our needs they always come last.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » October 29th, 2020, 12:23 pm

So wah deh say?

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby K74T » October 29th, 2020, 12:25 pm

Conference about building rentals

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » October 29th, 2020, 12:28 pm

K74T wrote:Conference about building rentals


Lol what????
They justifying it oarr?

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Re: PNM in Gov't

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » October 29th, 2020, 12:44 pm

I'd everybody house are assessed and taxes as of they are rentals then people are either commercial or at least cottage.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby De Dragon » October 29th, 2020, 3:07 pm

Redman wrote:How is it spin??Im stating what Scotland wrote in her official correspondence..all Ive done is show where Ms Scotlands own communication contradicts your opinion.

Its her words that say they cant afford the 14 day quarantine.

It's spin when you obdurately deny that the ball was in the JUHN Scarfy regime's court, and they deliberately waited until it was logistically impossible to facilitate the mission. You seem to conveniently miss where Scotland also said that :roll:

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » October 29th, 2020, 3:30 pm

Who made the rules? Rowley
Who decide tbe election date? Rowley.
Did he not take the observers, thst are a norm in our elections, into consideration when deciding the date?
Or was his only concern was to make sure and put it way enough thst they could use the 'managed it well' mantra before it was proven to be false?

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby De Dragon » October 29th, 2020, 3:44 pm

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sMASH wrote:Who made the rules? Rowley
Who decide tbe election date? Rowley.
Did he not take the observers, thst are a norm in our elections, into consideration when deciding the date?
Or was his only concern was to make sure and put it way enough thst they could use the 'managed it well' mantra before it was proven to be false?

And now in an ironic twist, House Thief Dillon going to St. Vincent to observe elections there :roll: Couple things to unpack, namely House Thief wouldn't know a fair election if it hit him in the nose, and once again, a smaller Caricom state embarrasses the better off T&T in showing how things are done.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » October 29th, 2020, 3:49 pm

De Dragon wrote:[soundcloud][/soundcloud]
sMASH wrote:Who made the rules? Rowley
Who decide tbe election date? Rowley.
Did he not take the observers, thst are a norm in our elections, into consideration when deciding the date?
Or was his only concern was to make sure and put it way enough thst they could use the 'managed it well' mantra before it was proven to be false?

And now in an ironic twist, House Thief Dillon going to St. Vincent to observe elections there :roll: Couple things to unpack, namely House Thief wouldn't know a fair election if it hit him in the nose, and once again, a smaller Caricom state embarrasses the better off T&T in showing how things are done.
Them jess doing that and the bajan police dss ting to rub we noses in it. they damn well kno they coulda bring the observers.

GoT style, power is power, and they haz it.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Redman » October 29th, 2020, 4:35 pm

De Dragon wrote:
Redman wrote:How is it spin??Im stating what Scotland wrote in her official correspondence..all Ive done is show where Ms Scotlands own communication contradicts your opinion.

Its her words that say they cant afford the 14 day quarantine.

It's spin when you obdurately deny that the ball was in the JUHN Scarfy regime's court, and they deliberately waited until it was logistically impossible to facilitate the mission. You seem to conveniently miss where Scotland also said that :roll:


Its time for you to get another 25 cent word.

What have I denied???
Its you that has cherry picked the cause-its you says it had nothing to do with money-applying your own spin.

Im just pointing out that if Scotland says they had no money to do what was needed, as she did in your quoted info- you are wrong to state that it is not about money.
:D
no spin
just a fact.

Regarding the elections-what COULD have happened,didnt.There were no irregularities.

the UNC designates signed off...and they have accepted the results.
try and do the same.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby De Dragon » October 29th, 2020, 5:23 pm

Redman wrote:
De Dragon wrote:
Redman wrote:How is it spin??Im stating what Scotland wrote in her official correspondence..all Ive done is show where Ms Scotlands own communication contradicts your opinion.

Its her words that say they cant afford the 14 day quarantine.

It's spin when you obdurately deny that the ball was in the JUHN Scarfy regime's court, and they deliberately waited until it was logistically impossible to facilitate the mission. You seem to conveniently miss where Scotland also said that :roll:


Its time for you to get another 25 cent word.

What have I denied???
Its you that has cherry picked the cause-its you says it had nothing to do with money-applying your own spin.

Im just pointing out that if Scotland says they had no money to do what was needed, as she did in your quoted info- you are wrong to state that it is not about money.
:D
no spin
just a fact.

Regarding the elections-what COULD have happened,didnt.There were no irregularities.

the UNC designates signed off...and they have accepted the results.
try and do the same.

Once again ascribing meaning and intent to people without proof. Where did I say that I haven't accepted the 2020 GE result? What I don't accept is blatant PNM lies that you seem to love to take deep in your gullet, and other orifices without question, as fact, when there is ample evidence to the contrary.
All your dotishness, and Form 3 attempts at wit, will never plaster over the fact that we are cursed with the most intellectually, morally and ethically compromised GORTT in the history of this nation, and through enablers like you, ironically, sufferers like you will continue to suffer.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby The_Honourable » November 19th, 2020, 11:31 pm

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