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Cantilever Stairs

Postby Johndoe1992 » August 3rd, 2020, 11:39 am

can anyone advise on a designer/ builder for a floating stairs :?:

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Re: Cantilever Stairs

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Johndoe1992 wrote:can anyone advise on a designer/ builder for a floating stairs :?:

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Postby ruffneck_12 » August 4th, 2020, 9:24 am

Johndoe1992 wrote:can anyone advise on a designer/ builder for a floating stairs :?:



just build a regular stairs and say wingardium leviosa,


(note, it's leviOsa not leviosarrrrrr)

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Re: Cantilever Stairs

Postby MG Man » August 4th, 2020, 9:48 am

Johndoe1992 wrote:can anyone advise on a designer/ builder for a floating stairs :?:


that requires some good structural design engineering
Always good to seek out a proper architect because it won't be as simple as just getting a builder to do something from a sketch pr photograph

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Re: Cantilever Stairs

Postby adnj » August 4th, 2020, 10:18 am

MG Man wrote:
Johndoe1992 wrote:can anyone advise on a designer/ builder for a floating stairs :?:


that requires some good structural design engineering
Always good to seek out a proper architect because it won't be as simple as just getting a builder to do something from a sketch pr photograph
There are wall-mounted and center-beam floating stairs. Wall-mounted stairs require structural calculations for the wall. Center-beam, not so much.

You will still need someone to review, calculate and recommend pitch, height and depth dimensions.

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Re: Cantilever Stairs

Postby MG Man » August 4th, 2020, 10:26 am

adnj wrote:
MG Man wrote:
Johndoe1992 wrote:can anyone advise on a designer/ builder for a floating stairs :?:


that requires some good structural design engineering
Always good to seek out a proper architect because it won't be as simple as just getting a builder to do something from a sketch pr photograph
There are wall-mounted and center-beam floating stairs. Wall-mounted stairs require structural calculations for the wall. Center-beam, not so much.

You will still need someone to review, calculate and recommend pitch, height and depth dimensions.


yup. A good architect will be able to do the math
That's the point of using an architect vs a house plans draughtsman or a builder
center beam kills the effect
But yeah, not something you can just wake up and decide 'yeah ah want dat

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Re: Cantilever Stairs

Postby adnj » August 4th, 2020, 10:55 am

MG Man wrote:
adnj wrote:
MG Man wrote:
Johndoe1992 wrote:can anyone advise on a designer/ builder for a floating stairs :?:


that requires some good structural design engineering
Always good to seek out a proper architect because it won't be as simple as just getting a builder to do something from a sketch pr photograph
There are wall-mounted and center-beam floating stairs. Wall-mounted stairs require structural calculations for the wall. Center-beam, not so much.

You will still need someone to review, calculate and recommend pitch, height and depth dimensions.


yup. A good architect will be able to do the math
That's the point of using an architect vs a house plans draughtsman or a builder
center beam kills the effect
But yeah, not something you can just wake up and decide 'yeah ah want dat


I especially appreciate the added qualification of a "good" architect. I have seen some designs that were best suited to walking up an old church tower.

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Re: Cantilever Stairs

Postby Rovin » August 4th, 2020, 11:06 am

if u have d $ then anything possible

to me floating stairs looks more appealing attached to only 1 side rather than a center beam like a spine , have to be very soundly structured & some strong steel engineering , no budshit mango tree welders shud be working on dat ....

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Re: Cantilever Stairs

Postby Johndoe1992 » August 4th, 2020, 7:52 pm

ruffneck_12 wrote:
Johndoe1992 wrote:can anyone advise on a designer/ builder for a floating stairs :?:



just build a regular stairs and say wingardium leviosa,


(note, it's leviOsa not leviosarrrrrr)

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Re: Cantilever Stairs

Postby Johndoe1992 » August 4th, 2020, 8:08 pm

adnj wrote:
MG Man wrote:
Johndoe1992 wrote:can anyone advise on a designer/ builder for a floating stairs :?:


that requires some good structural design engineering
Always good to seek out a proper architect because it won't be as simple as just getting a builder to do something from a sketch pr photograph
There are wall-mounted and center-beam floating stairs. Wall-mounted stairs require structural calculations for the wall. Center-beam, not so much.

You will still need someone to review, calculate and recommend pitch, height and depth dimensions.
Yup, don't know anyone who can advise on cost and load bearing capacity of the stairs etc . Currently doing house plans and if I Wana build it I can tweak my plans to strengthen the wall right now while I still can but don't have a clue on who can advise . Love the concept , saw the stairs with the center beam , not too much of a fan.

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Re: Cantilever Stairs

Postby Johndoe1992 » August 4th, 2020, 8:10 pm

Well yea , if I had the money , would just ship down one built to spec but mauby money and champagne taste ...
Rovin wrote:if u have d $ then anything possible

to me floating stairs looks more appealing attached to only 1 side rather than a center beam like a spine , have to be very soundly structured & some strong steel engineering , no budshit mango tree welders shud be working on dat ....

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Re: Cantilever Stairs

Postby ruffneck_12 » August 4th, 2020, 9:40 pm

I made a funny joke

Why didn't anyone quote it and haha reac?

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Re: Cantilever Stairs

Postby MG Man » August 4th, 2020, 9:46 pm

ruffneck_12 wrote:
Johndoe1992 wrote:can anyone advise on a designer/ builder for a floating stairs :?:



just build a regular stairs and say wingardium leviosa,


(note, it's leviOsa not leviosarrrrrr)



hahahahahahahaha :p

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Re: Cantilever Stairs

Postby adnj » August 4th, 2020, 9:56 pm

Johndoe1992 wrote:
adnj wrote:
MG Man wrote:
Johndoe1992 wrote:can anyone advise on a designer/ builder for a floating stairs :?:


that requires some good structural design engineering
Always good to seek out a proper architect because it won't be as simple as just getting a builder to do something from a sketch pr photograph
There are wall-mounted and center-beam floating stairs. Wall-mounted stairs require structural calculations for the wall. Center-beam, not so much.

You will still need someone to review, calculate and recommend pitch, height and depth dimensions.
Yup, don't know anyone who can advise on cost and load bearing capacity of the stairs etc . Currently doing house plans and if I Wana build it I can tweak my plans to strengthen the wall right now while I still can but don't have a clue on who can advise . Love the concept , saw the stairs with the center beam , not too much of a fan.
Ordinarily, with an architect you would have had civil, structural and services engineers that would answer those questions.

If you are drawing plans without an architect because of cost, it may be best that you perhaps decide against the floating staircase.

Stairs should be designed to withstand a 1000 lbs static and 300 lbs live load without yield. I have seen some built to less-stringent standards but that does not seem like a safe compromise in my opinion.

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Re: Cantilever Stairs

Postby Slartibartfast » August 4th, 2020, 10:10 pm

Civil engineer here. Send me a pm with details if you interested. You have plan and elevation drawings or at least an idea of the dimensions? I assume you are using reinforced concrete?

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Postby ScHoolboySoloQ » August 4th, 2020, 10:21 pm

I was thinking if you break the wall, make some holes, send some steel beams down there and cast it for good foundation then cross some beams to add structural integrity to the frame. From there make the stairs itself with a steel skeleton and cover it with wood then weld the stairs to the frame. You can bend and twist it however to suite the area. Cast the wall back and hide everything.

If you using concrete you can weld the steel skeleton to the frame first then make a boxing and pour your mix.

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Postby MG Man » August 4th, 2020, 10:38 pm

Slartibartfast wrote:Civil engineer here. Send me a pm with details if you interested. You have plan and elevation drawings or at least an idea of the dimensions? I assume you are using reinforced concrete?


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MG Man wrote:
ruffneck_12 wrote:
Johndoe1992 wrote:can anyone advise on a designer/ builder for a floating stairs :?:



just build a regular stairs and say wingardium leviosa,


(note, it's leviOsa not leviosarrrrrr)



hahahahahahahaha :p



love you

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Re: Cantilever Stairs

Postby adnj » August 5th, 2020, 2:09 am

MG Man wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:Civil engineer here. Send me a pm with details if you interested. You have plan and elevation drawings or at least an idea of the dimensions? I assume you are using reinforced concrete?


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ruffneck_12 wrote:
MG Man wrote:
ruffneck_12 wrote:
Johndoe1992 wrote:can anyone advise on a designer/ builder for a floating stairs :?:



just build a regular stairs and say wingardium leviosa,


(note, it's leviOsa not leviosarrrrrr)



hahahahahahahaha :p



love you


Johndoe gave you some smileys somewhere up there.

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Re: Cantilever Stairs

Postby cadman » August 5th, 2020, 7:04 am

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Re: Cantilever Stairs

Postby K74T » August 5th, 2020, 7:07 am

ruffneck_12 wrote:
MG Man wrote:
ruffneck_12 wrote:
Johndoe1992 wrote:can anyone advise on a designer/ builder for a floating stairs :?:



just build a regular stairs and say wingardium leviosa,


(note, it's leviOsa not leviosarrrrrr)



hahahahahahahaha :p



love you
Omgosh so cute

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Re: Cantilever Stairs

Postby MG Man » August 5th, 2020, 8:16 am

K74T wrote:
ruffneck_12 wrote:
MG Man wrote:
ruffneck_12 wrote:
Johndoe1992 wrote:can anyone advise on a designer/ builder for a floating stairs :?:



just build a regular stairs and say wingardium leviosa,


(note, it's leviOsa not leviosarrrrrr)



hahahahahahahaha :p



love you
Omgosh so cute


that shouldn't come as a surprise

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Re: Cantilever Stairs

Postby Dizzy28 » August 5th, 2020, 8:38 am

Rovin wrote:if u have d $ then anything possible

to me floating stairs looks more appealing attached to only 1 side rather than a center beam like a spine , have to be very soundly structured & some strong steel engineering , no budshit mango tree welders shud be working on dat ....


When I worked in construction so many years ago we used to have meetings in NLBA Architects often. They had renderings and photos of private residences designed by them hung up on the walls. My word the kind of houses Trinidad has!!!

Must be nice to have sheit ton of money.

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Re: Cantilever Stairs

Postby Johndoe1992 » August 5th, 2020, 1:43 pm

SR wrote:https://tt.linkedin.com/in/nigel-a-ali-architect-14339645
Link broken...?

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Re: Cantilever Stairs

Postby Johndoe1992 » August 5th, 2020, 1:46 pm

ScHoolboySoloQ wrote:I was thinking if you break the wall, make some holes, send some steel beams down there and cast it for good foundation then cross some beams to add structural integrity to the frame. From there make the stairs itself with a steel skeleton and cover it with wood then weld the stairs to the frame. You can bend and twist it however to suite the area. Cast the wall back and hide everything.

If you using concrete you can weld the steel skeleton to the frame first then make a boxing and pour your mix.
Was thinking along the same lines after watching some YouTube videos but not a builder nor designer so definitely can't even come up with an avg cost .
https://youtu.be/eIkSi6yeJSE

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Re: Cantilever Stairs

Postby Johndoe1992 » August 5th, 2020, 1:49 pm

cadman wrote:Alex
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Call to discuss and for more information.
Knowledgable and Experienced.
Thanks bro.

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Re: Cantilever Stairs

Postby Slartibartfast » August 19th, 2020, 9:00 am

MG Man wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:Civil engineer here. Send me a pm with details if you interested. You have plan and elevation drawings or at least an idea of the dimensions? I assume you are using reinforced concrete?


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Nope! I also have very dainty wrists that some women find marginally attractive.

Dizzy28 wrote:
Rovin wrote:if u have d $ then anything possible

to me floating stairs looks more appealing attached to only 1 side rather than a center beam like a spine , have to be very soundly structured & some strong steel engineering , no budshit mango tree welders shud be working on dat ....


When I worked in construction so many years ago we used to have meetings in NLBA Architects often. They had renderings and photos of private residences designed by them hung up on the walls. My word the kind of houses Trinidad has!!!

Must be nice to have sheit ton of money.
About 8 years ago I designed 24,000 sq.ft. house (floor area not land space eh) in an area where land is very expensive to buy. The house had an indoor swimming pool with male and female toilets. I thought it was a shopping mall at first. I also designed another house that had a bridge over the foyer and etertainment room to get to the master bedroom. Another house I designed had a jacuzzi in the en suite guest bedroom.... the kind of things you see in this business eh! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Cantilever Stairs

Postby MG Man » August 19th, 2020, 9:05 am

Slartibartfast wrote:
MG Man wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:Civil engineer here. Send me a pm with details if you interested. You have plan and elevation drawings or at least an idea of the dimensions? I assume you are using reinforced concrete?


not just a pretty face, are ya
Nope! I also have very dainty wrists that some women find marginally attractive.:


I can't stress enough how much your use of the word 'dainty' turned me on

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