Disband TT Army ?

[Redress10]

88Sins

Those are moot points tbh. Firstly, the threat of invasion is actually very low if even non existant. The only country that os capable of imvading us is USA. So all this talk about needing an army to propel an invasion is mad talk. Realistically TT Defense Force can't propel any invading force.

Another lame point is this myth about military training vs police training and different roles and functions. To be honest, since 9/11 those roles have been becoming more and more blurred. So training and functions are being constantly altered. TTDF already patrols with TTPS.

In the US, law enforcement regularly deploy to places such as warzones. The DEA, FBI etc have or had teams actively serving in Afghanistan and Iraq and such places. In the UK, the UKSF regularly deploy with the police for sensitive missions. In France, the GIGN serves both a military and law enforcement role. There numerous other examples.

We need to get away from this one dimension view as to what a military does. The world has changed. All those side projects that include community outreach are just that, secondary functions aka "hearts and minds". A military is about training, improving and deploying against threats.

It's time we get with the times.

[RedVEVO]

The TT Regiment should be disbanded because TT ones train and then turn bandit ..

These TT Regiment are really underachievers ( maybe Ghetto upbringing ) with a high power rifle ..

Disband them or use them as test research for Virus 19 ..

[zoom rader]

The money we spend on our army could be used to expand our coast guard and air guard. We don't have to worry about a ground invasion, but we do have to worry about drug and gun traffickers coming in thru our porous coastal defenses.

That's the main threat to our national security, and that's where we should use our scarce resources. All the billions spent on the army over the years have not yielded any results when it comes to stopping these threats.

Sounds good

[MaxPower]

That in T&T in times of national disaster in this country the TTR is critical in providing logistical direction as well as manpower & equipment for clearing debris, as well as providing food, shelter, rebuilding, security & other form of aid to thousands that may be negatively affected?

Reek,

The support from the TTR in our last flood disaster was disgustingly pathetic AND they are also incompetent in ALL the other areas you highlighted.

By you outlining their duties only makes you appear smart but it does not necessarily mean that the TTR actually performs.

You need to get out of that little box you’re in.

Btw, it was the citizens that came together to help eachother for that flood disaster, not your beloved TTR.

Water was prob lil deep and dirty for them.

[RedVEVO]

That in T&T in times of national disaster in this country the TTR is critical in providing logistical direction as well as manpower & equipment for clearing debris, as well as providing food, shelter, rebuilding, security & other form of aid to thousands that may be negatively affected?

Reek,

The support from the TTR in our last flood disaster was disgustingly pathetic AND they are also incompetent in ALL the other areas you highlighted.

By you outlining their duties only makes you appear smart but it does not necessarily mean that the TTR actually performs.

You need to get out of that little box you’re in.

The Regiment is a political toy ..

It's one of those promotional falsehoods tax payers pay for without benefits .

Meanwhile it drains serious $$$$ from the Treasury .

Disband the Regiment .

[88sins]

88Sins

Those are moot points tbh. Firstly, the threat of invasion is actually very low if even non existant. The only country that os capable of imvading us is USA. So all this talk about needing an army to propel an invasion is mad talk. Realistically TT Defense Force can't propel any invading force.

Another lame point is this myth about military training vs police training and different roles and functions. To be honest, since 9/11 those roles have been becoming more and more blurred. So training and functions are being constantly altered. TTDF already patrols with TTPS.

In the US, law enforcement regularly deploy to places such as warzones. The DEA, FBI etc have or had teams actively serving in Afghanistan and Iraq and such places. In the UK, the UKSF regularly deploy with the police for sensitive missions. In France, the GIGN serves both a military and law enforcement role. There numerous other examples.

We need to get away from this one dimension view as to what a military does. The world has changed. All those side projects that include community outreach are just that, secondary functions aka "hearts and minds". A military is about training, improving and deploying against threats.

It's time we get with the times.

Boi I really eh kno where allyuh keyboard experts does get allyuh information nah,

But that jackass statement alone is sufficient evidence for me to relegate your opinions on this topic to the rubbish bin.
So you saying, that Venezuela, a country a mere 7 miles away from T&T, isn't capable launching an invasion even though their civilians routinely arrive here on small fishing vessels, and that the US is the only country with such capability.

Boi, go take yuh meds and go back to sleep.

[Redress10]

88Sins

Those are moot points tbh. Firstly, the threat of invasion is actually very low if even non existant. The only country that os capable of imvading us is USA. So all this talk about needing an army to propel an invasion is mad talk. Realistically TT Defense Force can't propel any invading force.

Another lame point is this myth about military training vs police training and different roles and functions. To be honest, since 9/11 those roles have been becoming more and more blurred. So training and functions are being constantly altered. TTDF already patrols with TTPS.

In the US, law enforcement regularly deploy to places such as warzones. The DEA, FBI etc have or had teams actively serving in Afghanistan and Iraq and such places. In the UK, the UKSF regularly deploy with the police for sensitive missions. In France, the GIGN serves both a military and law enforcement role. There numerous other examples.

We need to get away from this one dimension view as to what a military does. The world has changed. All those side projects that include community outreach are just that, secondary functions aka "hearts and minds". A military is about training, improving and deploying against threats.

It's time we get with the times.

Boi I really eh kno where allyuh keyboard experts does get allyuh information nah,

But that jackass statement alone is sufficient evidence for me to relegate your opinions on this topic to the rubbish bin.
So you saying, that Venezuela, a country a mere 7 miles away from T&T, isn't capable launching an invasion even though their civilians routinely arrive here on small fishing vessels, and that the US is the only country with such capability.

Boi, go take yuh meds and go back to sleep.

Yes bro

YOU ARE THE EXPERT. You are the one claiming that we need a military to prevent an invasion from neighbouring Venezuela. A country that is nearly 200 times the size of Trinidad with advanced military assets, structure and over 300 thousand military personnel. That the few thousand TT defense force members are capable of defending TT from an attack by Venezuela forces. Remember now that YOU ARE THE EXPERT.

YOU ARE THE EXPERT yet you don't understand that in order to invade another country you need international support and permission from the UN. There is such a thing called international law that dictates these things. Without any such support such action is condemned and international forces intervene. See the situation with Ukraine and Russia.

Are you one of those who stay up night thinking about invasion from Venezuela? Seriously? In the past 50 years, has Venezuela ever conducted military action on a neighbouring country? By your logic, America can be invaded by Canada. So there's no such thing as diplomacy? Btw, you have a very high opinion of your country if you think that it is worth invading.

Bro, the only country that can invade TT and get away with it is the USA.

[zoom rader]

^^^ Diplomacy don't apply to banana republics. Which county in their right minds would want to invade TT.

Trini has nothing to offer, we have lazy non productive workers and alot of laws which no body adheres to.

Police here only interested in policing for profit rather than stopping kwame from stealing the yard fowl .

[MaxPower]

88Sins

Those are moot points tbh. Firstly, the threat of invasion is actually very low if even non existant. The only country that os capable of imvading us is USA. So all this talk about needing an army to propel an invasion is mad talk. Realistically TT Defense Force can't propel any invading force.

Another lame point is this myth about military training vs police training and different roles and functions. To be honest, since 9/11 those roles have been becoming more and more blurred. So training and functions are being constantly altered. TTDF already patrols with TTPS.

In the US, law enforcement regularly deploy to places such as warzones. The DEA, FBI etc have or had teams actively serving in Afghanistan and Iraq and such places. In the UK, the UKSF regularly deploy with the police for sensitive missions. In France, the GIGN serves both a military and law enforcement role. There numerous other examples.

We need to get away from this one dimension view as to what a military does. The world has changed. All those side projects that include community outreach are just that, secondary functions aka "hearts and minds". A military is about training, improving and deploying against threats.

It's time we get with the times.

Boi I really eh kno where allyuh keyboard experts does get allyuh information nah,

But that jackass statement alone is sufficient evidence for me to relegate your opinions on this topic to the rubbish bin.
So you saying, that Venezuela, a country a mere 7 miles away from T&T, isn't capable launching an invasion even though their civilians routinely arrive here on small fishing vessels, and that the US is the only country with such capability.

Boi, go take yuh meds and go back to sleep.

Yes bro

YOU ARE THE EXPERT. You are the one claiming that we need a military to prevent an invasion from neighbouring Venezuela. A country that is nearly 200 times the size of Trinidad with advanced military assets, structure and over 300 thousand military personnel. That the few thousand TT defense force members are capable of defending TT from an attack by Venezuela forces. Remember now that YOU ARE THE EXPERT.

YOU ARE THE EXPERT yet you don't understand that in order to invade another country you need international support and permission from the UN. There is such a thing called international law that dictates these things. Without any such support such action is condemned and international forces intervene. See the situation with Ukraine and Russia.

Are you one of those who stay up night thinking about invasion from Venezuela? Seriously? In the past 50 years, has Venezuela ever conducted military action on a neighbouring country? By your logic, America can be invaded by Canada. So there's no such thing as diplomacy? Btw, you have a very high opinion of your country if you think that it is worth invading.

Bro, the only country that can invade TT and get away with it is the USA.

Hahahah old boy Reek watching too much Sparta flim.

Just now he will say the TTPS is operating under first world standards.

[Rovin]

* walks in thread to see wa goin orn .......... walks back out quietly

[MaxPower]

* walks in thread to see wa goin orn .......... walks back out quietly

Lime na

[zoom rader]

* walks in thread to see wa goin orn .......... walks back out quietly

Stay and support Redpuss chead

[SMc]

The PNM armed forces are the last resort for when PNM wants to maintain power by force.

They have been used in the past by PNM and anything can happen.

Its one of the reasons why Indos are resused entry. They use the same lame arse excuse that indos are weak, yet still the British army has a special unit for them for over a 100yrs.

If you talking about the Gurkas and the RGR units, based throughout the UK and overseas on behalf of the UK MOD-they are not Indian...just saying.

during the coup our household was one of those that fed the soldiers and their dogs, were they unprepared for a situation like this and struggled as a result-very likely


Oh yeah keep the regiment, a couple pests and shittongs there but when needed are useful

Gurkhas are native to the Indian subcontinent of Nepalese nationality. Pretty sure they share similar genetic background to Indians.

They do and they are Hindu, something which trinidad forces dispises.

Sure about that? I'm pretty sure alot of them I know practice buddhism.

[zoom rader]

The PNM armed forces are the last resort for when PNM wants to maintain power by force.

They have been used in the past by PNM and anything can happen.

Its one of the reasons why Indos are resused entry. They use the same lame arse excuse that indos are weak, yet still the British army has a special unit for them for over a 100yrs.

If you talking about the Gurkas and the RGR units, based throughout the UK and overseas on behalf of the UK MOD-they are not Indian...just saying.

during the coup our household was one of those that fed the soldiers and their dogs, were they unprepared for a situation like this and struggled as a result-very likely


Oh yeah keep the regiment, a couple pests and shittongs there but when needed are useful

Gurkhas are native to the Indian subcontinent of Nepalese nationality. Pretty sure they share similar genetic background to Indians.

They do and they are Hindu, something which trinidad forces dispises.

Sure about that? I'm pretty sure alot of them I know practice buddhism.

They are 83% Hindu

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepal

[SMc]

Cool, just realised your main source of information was Wikipedia.

Keep strong, fight the power and hopefully one day you will get whatever it is you are after.

[maj. tom]

wait, what's wrong with Wikipedia as a source of information?
Do you know how Wikipedia works? That little lock icon at the top right means only endorsed historians and contributors can edit the page.

Demographics on Wikipedia entries are sourced from the CIA World Factbook.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publication ... 01.html#NP


Wikipedia also has rigorous enforcement of citing sources to back any edits and claims, and bots erase those that are not sourced. Every single edit is saved and backed up for all time. There are pages that i wrote on Wikipedia years ago that have changed quite a bit since i wrote them because of new encyclopedic rules that they enforce like other famous printed Encyclopedias. The original and backups are always there to view however.


I am disappointed that some people have not kept up to date on how the internet works in 2020. And then always are the ones who claim to know everything. Must be still feel it's TSTT dial up days with Netscape and 2003 Trinituner.

[88sins]

88Sins

Those are moot points tbh. Firstly, the threat of invasion is actually very low if even non existant. The only country that os capable of imvading us is USA. So all this talk about needing an army to propel an invasion is mad talk. Realistically TT Defense Force can't propel any invading force.

Another lame point is this myth about military training vs police training and different roles and functions. To be honest, since 9/11 those roles have been becoming more and more blurred. So training and functions are being constantly altered. TTDF already patrols with TTPS.

In the US, law enforcement regularly deploy to places such as warzones. The DEA, FBI etc have or had teams actively serving in Afghanistan and Iraq and such places. In the UK, the UKSF regularly deploy with the police for sensitive missions. In France, the GIGN serves both a military and law enforcement role. There numerous other examples.

We need to get away from this one dimension view as to what a military does. The world has changed. All those side projects that include community outreach are just that, secondary functions aka "hearts and minds". A military is about training, improving and deploying against threats.

It's time we get with the times.

Boi I really eh kno where allyuh keyboard experts does get allyuh information nah,

But that jackass statement alone is sufficient evidence for me to relegate your opinions on this topic to the rubbish bin.
So you saying, that Venezuela, a country a mere 7 miles away from T&T, isn't capable launching an invasion even though their civilians routinely arrive here on small fishing vessels, and that the US is the only country with such capability.

Boi, go take yuh meds and go back to sleep.

Yes bro

YOU ARE THE EXPERT. You are the one claiming that we need a military to prevent an invasion from neighbouring Venezuela. A country that is nearly 200 times the size of Trinidad with advanced military assets, structure and over 300 thousand military personnel. That the few thousand TT defense force members are capable of defending TT from an attack by Venezuela forces. Remember now that YOU ARE THE EXPERT.

YOU ARE THE EXPERT yet you don't understand that in order to invade another country you need international support and permission from the UN. There is such a thing called international law that dictates these things. Without any such support such action is condemned and international forces intervene. See the situation with Ukraine and Russia.

Are you one of those who stay up night thinking about invasion from Venezuela? Seriously? In the past 50 years, has Venezuela ever conducted military action on a neighbouring country? By your logic, America can be invaded by Canada. So there's no such thing as diplomacy? Btw, you have a very high opinion of your country if you think that it is worth invading.

Bro, the only country that can invade TT and get away with it is the USA.

Hahahah old boy Reek watching too much Sparta flim.

Just now he will say the TTPS is operating under first world standards.

Ok MaxPantyman and Reddress, since any country that decides to invade another MUST have the support/approval/authorization the United Nations and be in accordance with international law, explain the war in Iraq, and the lack of a UN response in objection or penalties for the action.
Because to this day, and according to the head of the UN security council at the time, the allies (US, Canada, UK, and several others), openly ignored international law prior to, during and after that invasion, and even ignored the advice of the council that such a move would be ill advised and would not be supported by the UN. The United nations, to this day, still considers that war in Iraq illegal. But they still need permission ent?



Anyway, you do realize that you fools eating and digesting yourself off a random thread in the old talk forum, about a hypothetical topic, a thread started by of all people REDVEVO right?

[maj. tom]

nah, RedVevo trying to behave himself. He get warned. Of course with the other 4 or 5 alt accounts that he uses to post on Trinituner, i dunno what's the point of him pretending.

[zoom rader]

Cool, just realised your main source of information was Wikipedia.

Keep strong, fight the power and hopefully one day you will get whatever it is you are after.

You full ah 5hit, dumb arse.

Typical PNM behaviour

[SMc]

I was being honest- i wish you all the best,

i have nothing against you or what you preach- I don't agree with a lot of it, but I don't knock you for it as every voice should have an audience and some things do resonate with me, but constant misinformation, pseudo-racism statements or bashing out that doesn't agree with you isn't the best way to gain support.

[zoom rader]

I was being honest- i wish you all the best,

i have nothing against you or what you preach- I don't agree with a lot of it, but I don't knock you for it as every voice should have an audience and some things do resonate with me, but constant misinformation isn't the best way to gain support.

Wikipedia is misinformation?

[SMc]

I was being honest- i wish you all the best,

i have nothing against you or what you preach- I don't agree with a lot of it, but I don't knock you for it as every voice should have an audience and some things do resonate with me, but constant misinformation isn't the best way to gain support.

Wikipedia is misinformation?

sorry no love lost but- this on Wikipedia about Wikipedia not being a reliable source of information

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... in%20wrong.

[Redress10]

88Sins

Now you trying to change the topic because everybody here punch holes in your argument. Talking about stuff like Iraq. Let me ask, anybody could do the US anything? What sort of stupid comparison is that? You ever hear the saying that Gopaul luck aint Seepaul luck? Or in this case Brad luck isn't Jose luck?

You are living in lala land bro. This discussion is very relevant and one that our relevant authorities should start having. What is the point of having a defense force that will never fight a war or defend us against an invading nation? Our fight is with crime yet we keeping the defence force with their hands tied behind their back because we saving them for some "major" threat that doesn't even exist? Their biggest test as a military to date was 1990? As a nation we are proud to say this out loud?

Why is it so hard to retool and repurpose these assets to better combat crime within our borders? Realistically speaking a combined caricom force can't even defend an attack from a country such as a Venezuela. We are going to have to sit back and wait for international assistance anyway. Why would they even invade? What do we have that they want?

Are members of our Defense Force really living with the belief that they are training to fight the likes to Venezuela and the US someday? Do they actually believe that they are capable? We would be wiped out within minutes if those countries ever attacked us.

[zoom rader]

I was being honest- i wish you all the best,

i have nothing against you or what you preach- I don't agree with a lot of it, but I don't knock you for it as every voice should have an audience and some things do resonate with me, but constant misinformation isn't the best way to gain support.

Wikipedia is misinformation?

sorry no love lost but- this on Wikipedia about Wikipedia not being a reliable source of information

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... in%20wrong.

Well just Google religion in Nepal and draw your own conclusions.

It's good that you question source of information,

hope you do the same when reading the 1% media papers .

[SMc]

I don't read the 1% or even the 99% media papers unless someone suggests to look at something specific in one of them that may be of interest to me- i kinda see where you coming from these days but still not a fan of it.

[MaxPower]

88Sins

Now you trying to change the topic because everybody here punch holes in your argument. Talking about stuff like Iraq. Let me ask, anybody could do the US anything? What sort of stupid comparison is that? You ever hear the saying that Gopaul luck aint Seepaul luck? Or in this case Brad luck isn't Jose luck?

You are living in lala land bro. This discussion is very relevant and one that our relevant authorities should start having. What is the point of having a defense force that will never fight a war or defend us against an invading nation? Our fight is with crime yet we keeping the defence force with their hands tied behind their back because we saving them for some "major" threat that doesn't even exist? Their biggest test as a military to date was 1990? As a nation we are proud to say this out loud?

Why is it so hard to retool and repurpose these assets to better combat crime within our borders? Realistically speaking a combined caricom force can't even defend an attack from a country such as a Venezuela. We are going to have to sit back and wait for international assistance anyway. Why would they even invade? What do we have that they want?

Are members of our Defense Force really living with the belief that they are training to fight the likes to Venezuela and the US someday? Do they actually believe that they are capable? We would be wiped out within minutes if those countries ever attacked us.

Wait na,

Is USA that Reek comparing the TTR to?

Lol

[shake d livin wake d dead]

Keep some sense of reality in this topic nah...redvevo, what you asking for will NEVER happen. NEVER!!!!!!!!

[rspann]

By this reasoning , no need to buy fire extinguishers ? Your house never burn down before so you don't need one . Throw away all spare tyres too.

[Redress10]

By this reasoning , no need to buy fire extinguishers ? Your house never burn down before so you don't need one . Throw away all spare tyres too.

Nobody saying throw away but to redirect resources. Restructure to make it more efficient. All over the world militaries are restructuring and reshaping themselves to face the future. What are we doing?

[88sins]

Keep some sense of reality in this topic nah...redvevo, what you asking for will NEVER happen. NEVER!!!!!!!!

End thread.