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Official Starlink/SpaceX INTERNET Thread "Caribbean Confirmed 100% ready next year by Elon Musk"

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » February 14th, 2020, 6:40 pm

Get ready for the future of internet!!!!!!!!

Lord Musk has graced us with his promise of low latency low orbit broadband internet by end of this year or mid next year.

Starlink will most likely avoid traditional routing and drastically lower latency, giving us the possibility of enjoying latency similar to living in the US. Elon Musk has confirmed we will have access to Starlink internet service in the Caribbean by end of this year or 100% next year.

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Re: Official Starlink/SpaceX INTERNET Thread "Caribbean Confirmed 100% ready next year by Elon Musk"

Postby hydroep » February 14th, 2020, 6:58 pm

Dunno nuh. Remember when Jack Warner (and other regional authorities?) did squeeze Red Jet's balls because they were allegedly afraid of competition negatively affecting the domestic/regional carriers?

If local/regional ISPs make the "appropriate overtures" to those in charge Musk go hadda haul he arse...:|

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Postby paid_influencer » February 14th, 2020, 7:25 pm

those in charge of who? this system will be literally over their head

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Re: Official Starlink/SpaceX INTERNET Thread "Caribbean Confirmed 100% ready next year by Elon Musk"

Postby maj. tom » February 14th, 2020, 7:37 pm

how you going to receive and send back the internet signal? The telecom authority has to give license to operators of all transceivers within a jurisdiction. Like Green Dot, etc? And we all know how much grease they require to open up any market.

https://tatt.org.tt/Portals/0/Licences% ... 202012.pdf

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Re: Official Starlink/SpaceX INTERNET Thread "Caribbean Confirmed 100% ready next year by Elon Musk"

Postby sMASH » February 14th, 2020, 7:50 pm

maj. tom wrote:how you going to receive and send back the internet signal? The telecom authority has to give license to operators of all transceivers within a jurisdiction. Like Green Dot, etc? And we all know how much grease they require to open up any market.

https://tatt.org.tt/Portals/0/Licences% ... 202012.pdf

just like u own land, but down to a certain depth, and after is govt. after a certain hieght, the govt would not have jurisdiction.
GORTT cant LEGALLY stop them from providing that service. the most they could do is sue them, in their home country or place jammers to impede the signal.

as for me, my body is ready. bring mosk!!! hope they service is cheap tho. my blink kinda real gud.

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Re: Official Starlink/SpaceX INTERNET Thread "Caribbean Confirmed 100% ready next year by Elon Musk"

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » February 14th, 2020, 7:53 pm

paid_influencer wrote:those in charge of who? this system will be literally over their head


while Trinidad is corrupt as hell, I don't see anyone stopping the future. I mean this thing in low orbit space, unless TATT plans on shooting it down with a missile they can only do very little in stopping this.

Let us say they try everything in their powers to not grant Musk any license, all you gonna need is a credit card and a satellite dish.

The only hard part is gonna be to get the dish, but knowing Trinidad it is gonna be pretty easy to get this. Eventually those in power will be voted out and a promise from a new government in granting licenses.

Also there is the part where this new system is so far ahead, that if Trinidad doesn't allow it we will just be held back economically and technologically while the rest of the world beats us. Hard to believe any government would be that stupid and even if they are, there will be ways to get this.

Can't stop Space X, them gonna conquer Mars soon

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Re: Official Starlink/SpaceX INTERNET Thread "Caribbean Confirmed 100% ready next year by Elon Musk"

Postby redmanjp » February 14th, 2020, 7:59 pm

TATT doh need to give approval? just like Musk say about Europe?

and lack of approval mean noone gonna be able to import or operate dat transceiver dish.

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Re: Official Starlink/SpaceX INTERNET Thread "Caribbean Confirmed 100% ready next year by Elon Musk"

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » February 14th, 2020, 8:04 pm

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maj. tom wrote:how you going to receive and send back the internet signal? The telecom authority has to give license to operators of all transceivers within a jurisdiction. Like Green Dot, etc? And we all know how much grease they require to open up any market.

https://tatt.org.tt/Portals/0/Licences% ... 202012.pdf

just like u own land, but down to a certain depth, and after is govt. after a certain hieght, the govt would not have jurisdiction.
GORTT cant LEGALLY stop them from providing that service. the most they could do is sue them, in their home country or place jammers to impede the signal.

as for me, my body is ready. bring mosk!!! hope they service is cheap tho. my blink kinda real gud.


Watch this video, great explanation why Starlink Latency is superior to Fiber Optic, in time to come we will look back at terrestrial internet and wonder how the ass we used to put up with it. Hurricanes, Earthquakes in the sea and other natural disasters threaten the reliability of landline internet.

Space X Internet will be crucial to the world for its reliability during these dangerous times, any government that tries to deny Starlink to anyone is basically putting lives at risk. This will be a humanitarian issue, Musk has the power to accomplish a project like this, if he wasn't confident he wouldn't be launching this worldwide.


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Re: Official Starlink/SpaceX INTERNET Thread "Caribbean Confirmed 100% ready next year by Elon Musk"

Postby maj. tom » February 14th, 2020, 8:04 pm

yes exactly, like men missing the point about transceivers. In order to transmit any radio signal you need a license. The license is given to the operator and the operator gives the customer a satellite dish or box or whatever to transmit the internet signal BACK to the satellite over us.

Just like Green Dot or Direct TV. They're always broadcasting above us, nobody stopping them. You can receive the signal, nobody stopping you. But how you going to broadcast a handshake transmission signal back to the satellite? Internet isn't just a download receiving signal like Free-to-Air TV.

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Re: Official Starlink/SpaceX INTERNET Thread "Caribbean Confirmed 100% ready next year by Elon Musk"

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » February 14th, 2020, 8:07 pm

redmanjp wrote:TATT doh need to give approval? just like Musk say about Europe?

and lack of approval mean noone gonna be able to import or operate dat transceiver dish.


What excuse does TATT have to not allow this?

This isn't just another ISP, this is a technology with the reliability to save lives, land line fiber is threatened by hurricanes and earth quakes in the sea, Starlink solves this reliability issue easily, it is the future it is a technology whereby if denied to citizens will put citizens at risk and hold back an entire country technologically. I doubt the TATT is that stupid, also that Dish gonna be imported just like all the weed was imported and nobody said jack sh!t watch and see

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Re: Official Starlink/SpaceX INTERNET Thread "Caribbean Confirmed 100% ready next year by Elon Musk"

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » February 14th, 2020, 8:10 pm

maj. tom wrote:yes exactly, like men missing the point about transceivers. In order to transmit any radio signal you need a license. The license is given to the operator and the operator gives the customer a satellite dish or box or whatever to transmit the internet signal BACK to the satellite over us.

Just like Green Dot or Direct TV. They're always broadcasting above us, nobody stopping them. You can receive the signal, nobody stopping you. But how you going to broadcast a handshake transmission signal back to the satellite? Internet isn't just a download receiving signal like Free-to-Air TV.


What about people who has been hacking Dish Network for years in Trinidad? Also it is difficult to believe TATT will try to stop a technology like this, all it will do is hold back our economy while people import this illegally just like they been importing guns and weed illegally all this time.

And if Flow can grease TATT so to can Musk, this sh!t is happening watch and see. There is currently satellite internet available in Trinidad as we speak, no reason to believe we won't be allowed to get Starlink, unless Flow and Digicel actually owns TATT

Elon Musk is worth $40 BILLION USD, he could buy out TATT easily

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Postby paid_influencer » February 14th, 2020, 8:19 pm

redmanjp wrote:TATT doh need to give approval? just like Musk say about Europe?

and lack of approval mean noone gonna be able to import or operate dat transceiver dish.


Well there's the thing. TATT has no legal authority over Elon Musk or US-based services.

Elon does not need approval (and will therefore not seek any approval) for anything.

The most TATT can do is try to restrict equipment here, like they wanted to do with Firesticks, Android boxes, etc. But then TATT officials will be laughed at and strung up from the nearest tree.

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » February 14th, 2020, 8:34 pm

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redmanjp wrote:TATT doh need to give approval? just like Musk say about Europe?

and lack of approval mean noone gonna be able to import or operate dat transceiver dish.


Well there's the thing. TATT has no legal authority over Elon Musk or US-based services.

Elon does not need approval (and will therefore not seek any approval) for anything.

The most TATT can do is try to restrict equipment here, like they wanted to do with Firesticks, Android boxes, etc. But then TATT officials will be laughed at and strung up from the nearest tree.


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Postby redmanjp » February 14th, 2020, 8:36 pm

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redmanjp wrote:TATT doh need to give approval? just like Musk say about Europe?

and lack of approval mean noone gonna be able to import or operate dat transceiver dish.


Well there's the thing. TATT has no legal authority over Elon Musk or US-based services.

Elon does not need approval (and will therefore not seek any approval) for anything.

The most TATT can do is try to restrict equipment here, like they wanted to do with Firesticks, Android boxes, etc. But then TATT officials will be laughed at and strung up from the nearest tree.


so why he need approval for Germany?

also any device that transmits a signal needs approval or a license.

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » February 14th, 2020, 8:43 pm

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redmanjp wrote:TATT doh need to give approval? just like Musk say about Europe?

and lack of approval mean noone gonna be able to import or operate dat transceiver dish.


Well there's the thing. TATT has no legal authority over Elon Musk or US-based services.

Elon does not need approval (and will therefore not seek any approval) for anything.

The most TATT can do is try to restrict equipment here, like they wanted to do with Firesticks, Android boxes, etc. But then TATT officials will be laughed at and strung up from the nearest tree.


so why he need approval for Germany?

also any device that transmits a signal needs approval or a license.


I believe what he meant is Musk doesn't need approval to operate his Starlink business since nobody owns space.

However just to show you how massive of a technological leap this is, Australia has already opened their doors to Musk, in fear their country would suffer and be sent to the dark ages if they do not adapt to new technology. Germany will do the same, because of the nature of this project, no regulatory service personnel in their right mind would even attempt to make up a story as to why this service isn't allowed in their country. This isn't just some new ISP looking to operate in a new country this is a completely new technological leap into the future that nobody can stop, it will change the world as we know it so much that if attempts are made to stop it the people in charge will be laughed out of town. The prospect of ultra low latency and reliability opens the doors for surgeons to perform surgery on patients in this country from another country using robotics which again is the future.

This is a TECHNOLOGY, like 5G is a technology that is going to change the world it is like TATT saying we are not allowed 5G because it is too advanced for us LMFAO

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/04/austral ... rvice.html

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Postby redmanjp » February 14th, 2020, 8:51 pm

point taken. but just to give an example of what transpires in T&T TATT still hasn't approved digital free-to-air TV in T&T, despite numerous countries not only doing it a whole decade ago but shutting off their old analog signals- so TATT might not outright block it, but just d pace dey going at with other things say to me doh expect this anytime soon.

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Postby maj. tom » February 14th, 2020, 8:54 pm

fella, try to understand that a radio license is required because of planes, military and other communication satellites above our airspace. They don't need unlicensed interference. TATT and the FCC track those things down like bin Laden. They have equipment to triangulate and find any illegal radio transmission that will interfere with their operations. It's highly regulated by international laws for every single country in the world by universal agreements. It have nothing to do with TATT ass about hulu and firestick etc.

Whether or not TATT grants a license to a local Starlink operator is up to their discretion. e.g.: DirectTV doesn't need a license to broadcast their satellite signal over the world (which they always are with their satellite network), but the local operators in each country needs one to broadcast the handshake signal back up to the satellite in order to descramble and demodulate the receiving signal properly. They then give the customers a satellite dish that has authority to transmit without interference within a certain band.
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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » February 14th, 2020, 8:55 pm

redmanjp wrote:point taken. but just to give an example of what transpires in T&T TATT still hasn't approved digital free-to-air TV in T&T, despite numerous countries not only doing it a whole decade ago but shutting off their old analog signals- so TATT might not outright block it, but just d pace dey going at with other things say to me doh expect this anytime soon.


I understand that, TATT is high class dotish and seeks to protect companies and interest that knows how to grease their wheel

Luckily for us, Space X internet is the only way Remote Surgery can be performed, since our current network is susceptible to way too many natural disasters, the only thing to make it possible is Starlink Internet and 5G, both need to work in combination.
For this reason TATT has absolutely no choice, it isn't just a matter of watching Netflix it is a matter of saving human lives via remote robotics and self driving cars which is going to become mainstream.

As the fella said if and when TATT attempts to stop this the people running it will be laughed out of town and strung up to the nearest tree and have dog sh!t tossed at them.

Luckily for us Starlink and 5G is a necessary and mandatory technology by the medical field and most businesses. it isn't just another ISP it is a revolutionary technology that will change the world.

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Postby paid_influencer » February 14th, 2020, 9:00 pm

redmanjp wrote:so why he need approval for Germany?

also any device that transmits a signal needs approval or a license.


He doesn't need approval. His service and company are out of TATTs jurisdiction. We, the users, might need approval.

The skybox companies, retailers, returning residents, visitors, etc needs approval to bring in the equipment and the user may need approval to transmit a signal. But Neither of those are Elon Musk or his company, unless he wants to directly import the equipment himself for some reason.

The most TATT could do is try to chase down the equipment, but that is not easy and there is no defensible reason for them to take up the task.

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » February 14th, 2020, 9:09 pm

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redmanjp wrote:so why he need approval for Germany?

also any device that transmits a signal needs approval or a license.


He doesn't need approval. His service and company are out of TATTs jurisdiction.

The skybox companies, retailers, returning residents, visitors, etc needs approval to bring in the equipment and the user may need approval to transmit a signal. But Neither of those are Elon Musk or his company, unless he wants to directly import the equipment himself for some reason.

The most TATT could do is try to chase down the equipment, but that is not easy and there is no defensible reason for them to take up this task.


Don't forget how for years people in Trinidad has been having access to Dish Network via chipped receivers, Dish Network a company that does not operate here neither do they have a space satellite anywhere near this part of the planet.

A starlink connection wouldn't be even remotely difficult to setup as something as Dish Network, then they will have to answer to big businesses why a license isn't being granted to operate Starlink since earth quakes and other stuff is a natural problem for us that fcks up our backbone connection. We would look like complete idiots trying to prevent this while other neighboring countries adopt it and transform their economy

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Postby dean_spleen09 » February 14th, 2020, 9:10 pm

yeahboiEDboi , street fighta go run brisk brisk

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » February 14th, 2020, 9:15 pm

dean_spleen09 wrote:yeahboiEDboi , street fighta go run brisk brisk

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Based on the results for latency and bandwidth we have see so far I don't see why games wouldn't run brisk brisk. Fighting games do work on P2P so yes it would benefit greatly from Starlink, also remote surgery and a million other things so I don't see your point about street fighter, yeah its the current biggest Esport Fighter but there are a million other things that will be made possible via starlink that would be IMPOSSIBLE via Fiber Optic since Fiber is much slower as light has to move through glass slowing it down. Starlink latency as Musk says and confirmed by scientists actually operate at the speed of light where as Fiber Optic does NOT since it is a pretty poor technology for transmitting data over 2500 km not to mention highly unreliable for critical tasks due to it running on the ocean bed making it susceptible to earth quakes etc which causes a break and can take days to fix.

As I said before and will say it again, this isn't just another ISP this is a complete and total change in technology that will change the planet and the way we do things forever. This is much more advanced than going from Dial Up to Fiber.

When a major disaster like a CAT 5 hurricane hits a country, any hope of using a cell phone or internet to call for help is completely impossible. With Starlink that risk is drastically reduced as you don't have to depend on cell towers or terrestrial lines. Now do you all see why this technology cannot be stopped? would be suicide for the TATT to even attempt
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Postby sMASH » February 14th, 2020, 9:26 pm

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redmanjp wrote:so why he need approval for Germany?

also any device that transmits a signal needs approval or a license.


He doesn't need approval. His service and company are out of TATTs jurisdiction. We, the users, might need approval.

The skybox companies, retailers, returning residents, visitors, etc needs approval to bring in the equipment and the user may need approval to transmit a signal. But Neither of those are Elon Musk or his company, unless he wants to directly import the equipment himself for some reason.

The most TATT could do is try to chase down the equipment, but that is not easy and there is no defensible reason for them to take up the task.

they have a reason, as tom say, they have to approve all transmission equipment.... the law on them side. once i brought in some toy walkie talkies, and it got seized by customs. had to go to tatt with the specs, so they gave a letter saying its approved, and then got the radios.

the frequencies reaching here is not the problem, is getting the equipment to decode and to transmit back up to star link, thats the issue.

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Re: Official Starlink/SpaceX INTERNET Thread "Caribbean Confirmed 100% ready next year by Elon Musk"

Postby rspann » February 15th, 2020, 8:39 am

Meanwhile , street fighter working good in all hotspots, without Elon musk.

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i was thinking it would have been a little like directv or green dot where individual customers communicate directly. but it seems it might be easier to have star link as just the conduit between local carriers and the www.

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Postby agent007 » February 15th, 2020, 1:00 pm

Just the same way there is a dealership cartel in T&T, there is also a telecommunications cartel. In this almost 100% corrupt society we live in, all I can say is good luck. Check the pic below and watch the equipment they have to serve their interest and ofcourse the interest of the state ie. Government and those who control the governmentt ie. 1%
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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » February 15th, 2020, 3:10 pm

rspann wrote:Meanwhile , street fighter working good in all hotspots, without Elon musk.


Why lie? it doesn't even use GGPO Netcode :lol:

For the very least any software using delay netcode would see the biggest change and rollback netcode isn't going to skip frames

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Postby Coppershot » February 15th, 2020, 4:15 pm

Elon Musk’s Starlink plan approved for Australia


Article dated Feb 5th 2020. Australia is well know for terrible internet, no wonder they approved this so quickly

https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/space/elon-musks-starlink-plan-approved-for-australia/news-story/d99545976931ea4bf4a5f394ec6e885d

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » February 17th, 2020, 9:06 am

^ Not gonna lie even if it cost around the same as Flow or even a lil bit more expensive and made no difference in latency, I would still support Starlink over anybody else for the sheer fact that you know damn well giving money to Elon Musk actually is worthwhile compared to some other corporate shill who does nothing for humanity and space exploration.

The kind of work Musk has done in revolutionizing batteries for renewable clean energy to lowering the price of electric vehicles to space exploration, to current mission of colonizing and then Terraforming Mars, to searching for life on other planets and the list goes on and on and on.
Also The Musk Foundation has disbursed more than $54m in 15 years of operations, more than a third in direct gifts to 160 charities

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » February 17th, 2020, 11:33 am

https://www.inverse.com/innovation/spac ... -subscribe

Musk suggested it could come at a steep price. The CEO floated the idea of a figure somewhere around US$100 and US$300.

That means, all in all, Starlink could launch for somewhere around the US$80 per month mark, plus an extra US$100 to US$300 for installation costs.

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