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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 5297 cases, 96 deaths, 1549 active, 3652 recovered in T&T

Postby sMASH » October 20th, 2020, 6:45 pm

for those who were contributing to the folding at home effort, this is an update from the rosetta@home peeps.
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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 4887 cases, 84 deaths, 1793 active, 3010 recovered in T&T

Postby sMASH » October 20th, 2020, 11:17 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:121009495_3779529212076859_5196847675764232147_o.jpg



K74T wrote:2 deaths and 76 new cases. (24 of those cases came from the prison in Tobago)

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did u all discuss how the totals lost 2k tests from the format change over?

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Postby redmanjp » October 21st, 2020, 12:11 am

Ireland on total lockdown again

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ireland-goes-into-total-covid-lockdown-in-bid-to-save-christmas-as-europes-second-wave-hits

Ireland Goes Into Total Lockdown in Desperate Bid to Save Christmas as Europe’s Second Wave Gathers Force
HERE WE GO AGAIN
Ireland will plunge into the world’s toughest national lockdown on Wednesday in a desperate bid to salvage Christmas. The rest of Europe could be forced to follow.


Tom Sykes
Updated Oct. 20, 2020 6:06PM ET / Published Oct. 20, 2020 1:28PM ET


COUNTY CARLOW, Ireland—Sunday two weeks ago, my wife and I joined four friends for a birthday dinner, making up what was then the maximum sized legally-permissible group, six.

An opportunity to forget about the coronavirus for a few hours turned into anything but when one of our host’s kids came into the room where we were eating and told us that they’d heard on TikTok that the country was moving to “level five.”

We all understood.

It was soon established that Ireland’s National Public Health Emergency team, NPHET, had written to the government, urging a move from the then-current patchwork of “level two” and “level three” restrictions to a super-strict “level five” lockdown across the entire country.

At levels two and three of the government’s five-level plan for “living with COVID,” which was launched last month, something resembling normal life in Ireland is just about possible.

Level five, by contrast, is essentially a total lockdown with restaurants (and our famous pubs) only open for takeaway; non-essential shops closed; hairdressers and salons closed; all social visits banned; weddings and funerals limited to 25 guests and individuals prohibited from traveling farther than 3 miles from their homes.

The following day, Monday, Ireland’s government did something extraordinary; it rejected NPHET’s advice. It said the entire country would move to level three instead.

Ireland’s deputy leader, tanaiste Leo Varadkar, went on radio and publicly chastised NPHET members. Varadkar said they were civil servants who had no conception of what it meant to be facing unemployment or having “to shutter a business for the last time.”

Varadkar added, “I’m not talking about the economy, I’m talking about something that could have happened to half a million human beings tomorrow and the reason why politicians make these decisions is because we’re the ones who can see the bigger picture.

“It’s not just about a virus and statistics around a virus. It’s not about a death rate. It’s about real people, and how it impacts on so many different people, and so many different communities, in so many different ways.”

Exactly two weeks after Varadkar made his defiant stand, the Taoiseach (prime minister) Micheál Martin stood on the steps of government buildings Monday night and performed a stunning u-turn.

A grim-faced Martin announced that the entire country would indeed go into level five restrictions beginning midnight Wednesday, after infections among Ireland’s 5 million people surged to over 1,000 a day. The government expects some 200,000 people will lose their jobs. The only chink of light is that schools are staying open, for now.

A key factor in the government decision was that NPHET indicated that a six-week lockdown would suppress the virus to as few as 50 cases a day by December, allowing reopening in time for Christmas.

Martin sought to tap into the national obsession with Christmas in his televised address, saying, “Every Christmas is important, but this year it is particularly so. Each of us have our own rituals for Christmas, and they will take on extra poignancy this year as we remember those who didn’t survive 2020. Not only those who have been taken by the virus, but also all those others who passed away this year and didn’t get the wakes and funerals and goodbyes that we as a people are so good at, and which they deserved.

“It won’t be the same Christmas that we have enjoyed in years past, but if we all pull together and follow the spirit of these new rules, it will be a very special time and will give us all some respite from the hardship of the last seven months.”

The resurgence of the virus has shocked many Irish, who congratulated themselves this summer after daily cases fell to the low twenties.

However, the reality is that Ireland is merely part of a vast new coronavirus wave sweeping across Europe.

And while Irish people are now living with the toughest official national restrictions in the world, it seems inevitable that much of the rest of Europe will follow.

Indeed, many European countries, including Spain, France, the U.K., the Netherlands, Belgium, Czech Republic, Slovenia, and Luxembourg all have 14-day cumulative numbers of COVID-19 cases per 100,000, one of the ECDC’s favored measures, above Ireland’s figure of 253. Many of those countries have severe regional or city-specific lockdowns and curfews already in place.

America is unlikely to be spared a second wave either; the state of Arizona, for example, has 7.2 million residents compared to Ireland’s 4.9 million and is seeing a similar number of cases of around 1,000 per day, and the Arizona number is on a sharp upward trajectory.

While Martin tried to hold on to the promise of Christmas, he also admitted in his address that the country was effectively set for a cycle of yo-yo lockdowns.

He rejected goals of zero COVID, and herd immunity, instead saying, “We work to suppress the virus when it is growing, and we work to reopen as much of our society and economy as possible when it is safe to do so. Until we have a safe vaccine, we must continue in that pattern.”

It’s a deeply depressing message. It’s also the truth, and not just for Ireland.

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Postby Ben_spanna » October 21st, 2020, 11:48 am

the way how trinis getting ancy if govt gives a lil ease now and our numbers skyrocket from beaches, rivers, bars and restaurants re-opening its going to be a rather strange Xmas in lockdown i forsee.

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Postby goalpost » October 21st, 2020, 12:48 pm

Ben_spanna wrote:the way how trinis getting ancy if govt gives a lil ease now and our numbers skyrocket from beaches, rivers, bars and restaurants re-opening its going to be a rather strange Xmas in lockdown i forsee.



So wah allyuh feel the PM coming with on Saturday?

I feel he go open back cinemas and probably beaches and rivers, but public servants will remain in rotation (probably till end of year).

Not sure about bars and restaurants though.

Rowley know if he open back in full, it go rise again, and hopefully he know it could be disastrous, especially for Christmas.

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Postby Dohplaydat » October 21st, 2020, 1:06 pm

Researchers at the University of Cambridge explain the effects of ventilation on the indoor spread of COVID-19. Featuring some incredible experiments visualising breathing, speaking and laughing which show how wearing a face mask can help to reduce the risk of transmission.


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Postby MaxPower » October 21st, 2020, 1:10 pm

Hadda fix the Trinidadian irresponsible, ignorant and careless mentality first before trying to fix Covid.

Facts.

Trinis ASS are still too happy and relaxed.

Its never too late to rest down a lockdown and crack the whip.

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Postby Dohplaydat » October 21st, 2020, 1:16 pm

Ben_spanna wrote:the way how trinis getting ancy if govt gives a lil ease now and our numbers skyrocket from beaches, rivers, bars and restaurants re-opening its going to be a rather strange Xmas in lockdown i forsee.


This is exactly what will happen, not because trinis are dumb. It's because this government has in the past restricted us too much. It's not mentally healthy and is leading to depression, unemployment, domestic abuse, health scares etc.

We inevitably locked down too late when cases were on the rise. They denied community spread when everybody and they nana could see it was happening.

If they left everything open, things would have died down, on a regular Saturday the week before beaches were closed, I was at Maracas. There wasn't any huge crowd, few big maxi limes if any, just a normal not overly crowded day at the beach.

The day they announced it'll be closed there was they famous 'last lap', which they tried to blame for cases rising but we all know election activity was a top contributor.

If they leave things open, because people are afraid of Covid, they won't be a huge rush.

Our approach now needs to be different. We are no longer trying to avoid cases entirely. We should be trying to avoid many persons getting it at once. Especially with Christmas and Divali coming up.

Given that we're essentially in a strict lockdown, the best thing to do is right now, not next month, now, you open back up everything.

But, with Covid measures and guidelines, Restaurants and bars should be encouraged to have as much ventilation as possible. No loud music either. Beaches can be open but we need to say small groups only, realistically it won't be possible to enforce this, but we need to make people afraid to try it at least.

Outdoor mask wearing should be immediately changed to all mask wearing indoors, offices especially. People need to eat separately too, 10ft apart minimum.

Schools need to reopen in Feb or Mar, I expect a Christmas spike so let's wait for that to die down.

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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 5333 cases, 98 deaths, 1477 active, 3758 recovered in T&T

Postby sMASH » October 21st, 2020, 3:31 pm

MaxPower wrote:Hadda fix the Trinidadian irresponsible, ignorant and careless mentality first before trying to fix Covid.

Facts.

Trinis ASS are still too happy and relaxed.

Its never too late to rest down a lockdown and crack the whip.
Can't do that, other wise PNM wouldn't win again.

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Postby redmanjp » October 21st, 2020, 5:31 pm

they need to start back saying where cases are coming from- assuming they know because a lot of them may be unlinked cases - which is why they should have made contact tracing apps which work via bluetooth to identify unlinked cases. but bars, restaurants should be required to keep a register of all patrons for tracing purposes as well.

outdoor dining and drinking alone should be allowed for now if they decide to open them back otherwise just open back churches and cinemas but ban eating/drinking so ppl can wear masks at all times.

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Postby Dizzy28 » October 21st, 2020, 5:35 pm

Deaths over the century mark.
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Postby redmanjp » October 21st, 2020, 5:37 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:Deaths over the century mark. FB_IMG_1603316075609.jpeg



hmm yuh think keith go open back when he see dat?

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Postby redmanjp » October 21st, 2020, 5:49 pm

3 deaths- so the 'female' was young and healthy?

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Postby toyolink » October 21st, 2020, 6:16 pm

Covid19 has truly worn us down and the silent invisible impacts are all too noticeable.
Inability to sleep, feelings of fatigue, a sense of being confined, a feeling that everything is going down the drain and out-burst of anger.
We are hearing from less and less cheer-leaders since they themselves now need support.
We are now really called to dig deep and look out for others who need our help.
The government must be part of the solution and source of real support and ease off the expectation for a bligh.

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Postby paid_influencer » October 21st, 2020, 8:09 pm

toyolink wrote:Covid19 has truly worn us down and the silent invisible impacts are all too noticeable.
Inability to sleep, feelings of fatigue, a sense of being confined, a feeling that everything is going down the drain and out-burst of anger.
We are hearing from less and less cheer-leaders since they themselves now need support.
We are now really called to dig deep and look out for others who need our help.
The government must be part of the solution and source of real support and ease off the expectation for a bligh.


true dat

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Postby MaxPower » October 21st, 2020, 8:23 pm

toyolink wrote:Covid19 has truly worn us down and the silent invisible impacts are all too noticeable.
Inability to sleep, feelings of fatigue, a sense of being confined, a feeling that everything is going down the drain and out-burst of anger.
We are hearing from less and less cheer-leaders since they themselves now need support.
We are now really called to dig deep and look out for others who need our help.
The government must be part of the solution and source of real support and ease off the expectation for a bligh.


Hello toyolink,

ALL Trinis must do their part, simple.

But yes, the Govt must be part of the solution which is to discipline the citizens of T&T.

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Postby adnj » October 21st, 2020, 10:45 pm

Do Masks On Plane Flights Really Cut Your Risk Of Catching COVID-19?

October 20, 20204:39 PM ET

"Since April, Emirates has had a very rigid masking policy," Freedman says. Not only does the airline require passengers and crew members to wear masks, but flight attendants also make sure everyone keeps on their masks, as much as possible, throughout the entire flight.

Freedman looked at all Emirates flights from Dubai to Hong Kong between June 16 and July 5. What he found is quite telling. During those three weeks, Emirates had five flights with seven or more infected passengers on each flight, for a total of 58 coronavirus-positive passengers flying on eight-hour trips. And yet, nobody else on the planes — none of the other 1,500 to 2,000 passengers — picked up the virus, Freedman and his colleague report in the Journal of Travel Medicine.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandso ... ne-flights

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Postby Dizzy28 » October 21st, 2020, 11:49 pm

Talking with a client today out of Dublin. He was saying Ireland is starting a 6 week lockdown at the highest tier from midnight tonight.

This contrasts with two weeks ago when Tanaiste Leo Varadkar basically made light of the medical fraternity's advice.

Varadkar is a doctor as well ah.

Trinidad better get our sheit together as more developed countries getting knocked down hard.

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Postby Kenjo » October 22nd, 2020, 4:34 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:Talking with a client today out of Dublin. He was saying Ireland is starting a 6 week lockdown at the highest tier from midnight tonight.

This contrasts with two weeks ago when Tanaiste Leo Varadkar basically made light of the medical fraternity's advice.

Varadkar is a doctor as well ah.

Trinidad better get our sheit together as more developed countries getting knocked down hard.

Yup the UK is getting jammed now , they actually have been getting difficulties with the normal flu over the last few years around this time of year so things will be pretty bad

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Postby toyolink » October 22nd, 2020, 4:41 pm

MaxPower wrote:
toyolink wrote:Covid19 has truly worn us down and the silent invisible impacts are all too noticeable.
Inability to sleep, feelings of fatigue, a sense of being confined, a feeling that everything is going down the drain and out-burst of anger.
We are hearing from less and less cheer-leaders since they themselves now need support.
We are now really called to dig deep and look out for others who need our help.
The government must be part of the solution and source of real support and ease off the expectation for a bligh.


Hello toyolink,

ALL Trinis must do their part, simple.

But yes, the Govt must be part of the solution which is to discipline the citizens of T&T.


I agree 100% that the Gov't must put in place regulations etc. to force appropriate levels of disciplined behavior but this doesn't preclude their responsibility to effectively support the most vulnerable in our society who are buckling under pressures associated with the pandemic and in particular our children.

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Postby adnj » October 22nd, 2020, 6:41 pm

K74T wrote:
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Still no treatment for the serious Covid-19 cases.

Remdesivir, Hydroxychloroquine Have Little or No Effect on Severe COVID-19 Cases, WHO Says

https://www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandem ... es-who?amp

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Postby adnj » October 22nd, 2020, 7:50 pm

US deaths projected to be 389,000 by Feb 2021.

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Postby redmanjp » October 23rd, 2020, 12:18 am

CMO said we getting 1 death per day- but today had 2 and yesterday 3?

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Postby Kenjo » October 23rd, 2020, 6:42 am

redmanjp wrote:CMO said we getting 1 death per day- but today had 2 and yesterday 3?

He probably needs to speak louder for corona to listen to him ? Why people expecting corona to be predictable . A couple days ago we had zero deaths so that mean it cured ?

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Postby Ben_spanna » October 23rd, 2020, 8:18 am

Numbers keeping steady because SICK people not staying tuh fvk HOME.
If you have ANY of the covid symptoms you should NOT leave your house. you should NOT go to work, stay to hell home.
Its our own fault that the numbers are steady and we stay in partial lockdown.

Watch and see , if the PM announces this weekend that certain conditions will be relaxed, we will just go right back up into over +100plus cases a day and then by early December we will have to be locked down for xmas and that will affect even more retailers, but you know how the average Trini is a selfish jacka55 and only cares about Carnival and whine whine whine........... so whatever happens let it happen.

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Postby Dohplaydat » October 23rd, 2020, 11:19 am

redmanjp wrote:CMO said we getting 1 death per day- but today had 2 and yesterday 3?


Did you not learn averages in school?

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Postby redmanjp » October 23rd, 2020, 12:13 pm

Dohplaydat wrote:
redmanjp wrote:CMO said we getting 1 death per day- but today had 2 and yesterday 3?


Did you not learn averages in school?


d ave. of 2 and 3 is 1?

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