COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[pugboy]

supposed to be $50k fine

[paid_influencer]

Seems to be some bachannal brewing in and around jerningham junction...a raj tested positive and escaped...TTPS confirmed this info and they are looking for him atm...I will not post the name of the raj until further notice

Stuart Young in press conference says the individual did not test positive. But he did escape from quarantine.

Break he as still

[pugboy]

they still looking for him

[K74T]

Just do a search on facebook for Jerningham Junction, you’ll see posts with a pic, name and details

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

[MaxPower]

Any idea when Deyalsingh going to check a E.N.T specialist?

Cant understand what he saying with that congestion voice.

[Coppershot]

Seems to be some bachannal brewing in and around jerningham junction...a raj tested positive and escaped...TTPS confirmed this info and they are looking for him atm...I will not post the name of the raj until further notice

Stuart Young in press conference says the individual did not test positive. But he did escape from quarantine.

Break he as still

Although he was tested negative, they should still deal with him aggressively.
They should issue a crimestopper reward and anybody (family, friend) caught harboring him should face same fine and imprisonment.

[gastly369]

Confirmed?

press conference on now.

NEWS:
Limit for public gatherings to be reduced from 10 persons to 5 persons.

[Dave]

Going to make adjustments to the legislation for that. Will be communicated when done.

[Coppershot]

Confirmed?

press conference on now.

NEWS:
Limit for public gatherings to be reduced from 10 persons to 5 persons.

This applies to public places. But wait until they put out the new regulations for all the details.

Also Akash still salty from that beatout he get a few weeks ago when he got his terminology wrong.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

KEY POINTS FROM THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH'S PRESS CONFERENCE TODAY:

- Minister Young: A Decision was taken to further reduce public gatherings from 10 persons to 5 persons. The Regulations will be amended today to reflect this change.

- Minister Young: The regulations that cover public gatherings do NOT apply to outside banks and supermarkets, citizens are advised to practice social distancing in those settings.

- Minister Young: It is NOT illegal for taxi drivers to increase their fare due to the regulations reducing their passenger load to 50%.

- Dr. Sally-Anne Ishmael: Hospitals have made changes regarding pregnant women, there will be new clinic times, limited visiting and limited visitors and this is to ensure the health and safety of pregnant women and their unborn babies.

- Dr. Sally-Anne Ishmael: Pregnant women are more likely to have mild to no symptoms and recover completely and there is no evidence of Covid-19 impacting the development of the foetus

- Minister Young: TT Spirit has been taken off the sea bridge, the Galleons passage & Jean de la Vallette will make 1 trip per day and Cargo vessel, the Cabo Star will operate as normal.

- Minister Young: The TTPS are in search of a patient who escaped quarantine, The escaped patient has tested negative but was in quarantine and the TTPS is asking anyone with information to contact them.

- Minister of Health: Members of the public with no recent travel history or contact with a Covid-19 positive case are NOT a priority for testing

- Minister Deyalsingh: To get a true positive test, the person being tested has to have symptoms as certain viral load levels are required for the test to detect the virus. An asymptomatic person will give a false negative test result.

- Minister Young: There is no magic number for escalation in the stay at home policy and people are strongly ADVISED to not exercise in public spaces. The Commissioner of Police was referring to the police's power of arrest on the matter.

***And of course we are being reminded that we must STAY at HOME TO STAY SAFE AND SAVE LIVES

[Gladiator]

Seems to be some bachannal brewing in and around jerningham junction...a raj tested positive and escaped...TTPS confirmed this info and they are looking for him atm...I will not post the name of the raj until further notice

Stuart Young in press conference says the individual did not test positive. But he did escape from quarantine.

Break he as still

Their information going in circles... i thought you have to have a high VIRAL LOAD to be tested according to Deyalsingh. How the azz they test him and he negative...

Yet people sick and can't breathe and cannot get tested.

[redmanjp]

so I guess that's it for imported??

U might still have a week again for some ppl who incubation period is longer. And then their household might get infected after. But local spread has begun and will turn into community spread (fancy way if saying outbreak)

[MaxPower]

Their information going in circles... i thought you have to have a high VIRAL LOAD to be tested according to Deyalsingh. How the azz they test him and he negative...

Yet people sick and can't breathe and cannot get tested.

Correct.

They are basically saying if you have a mild covid 19 infection....stay home, stay safe, save lives.

Dunce Deyalsingh waiting for people to die at home.

[abducted]

The escaped patient has tested negative but was in quarantine

He tested negative but was in quarantine? Why?

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Cops hunt COVID quarantine escapee

Trinidad Express - POLICE are searching for a man who fled a hospital from quarantine after undergoing a test for the Covid 19 virus.

The 24 year old man of Jerningham, Cunupia, ran from the Eric Williams Medical Sciences Complex on Monday night.

Chaguanas Mayor Vandana Mohit told Express on Tuesday that the information was confirmed to her by the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service.

Mohit has sent out an appeal on social media for residents to stay indoors.

"To our burgesses, Iam asking that residents of Jerningham Junction in particular stay indoors. Yes it was just confirmed with TTPS that they are in search of a young man who should at this time be in quarantine due to a possible risk. Please adhere to warnings. Please", Mohit wrote. '

Mohit told Express that she knew the person who police are seeking.

Police said that the man is well-known to police.

Chief Medical Officer of Health Dr Roshan Parasram said during a media briefing on Monday that people had been detained under the Quarantine Act but no one had been charged.

Parasram announced that there was local spread, one step away from community spread.

According to the Quarantine Act, a person who defied quarantine can be fined $50,000 and jailed for six months.

He is not positive

At today’s COVID-19 press conference, National Security Minister Stuart Young said the “run-away” was brought to his attention, and he contacted the Health Minister and Police Commissioner Gary Griffith.

He said that the person was in quarantined, and decided he no longer wanted to be there.

“The police are looking for him right now” said Young.

Young assured the population that the man had not tested positive for COVID-19, and that the police officer who sent out an alert to his fellow officers may have been too hasty in his actions.

He said “of course, you don’t want someone who is put in quarantine running around outside”.

Young said that the person’s family and community would know who he is, and people were being encouraged to make contact with the police.

https://trinidadexpress.com/newsextra/c ... bbf61.html

[RedVEVO]

^^

If you tested "negative" and they still want you in quarantine with "positive people" ..

Would you not run ?

[gastly369]

Aaa like yuh break out from couva

^^

If you tested "negative" and they still want you in quarantine with "positive people" ..

Would you not run ?

[pugboy]

they wicked

Aaa like yuh break out from couva

^^

If you tested "negative" and they still want you in quarantine with "positive people" ..

Would you not run ?

[Redress10]

He's "negative". It could be a false negative as the test could have been taken to early and his viral load was too low. This is why random testing simply would not work. The results would be useless without patient context and history.

This is why it's key at this point to stay home. Guys, testing is useless as most people who present to the hospital don't present because they think they have the virus. They go to the hospital because they are struggling to breathe and symptoms are worsening. This usually occurs around day 10. If your symptoms are improving then there really is no need to present for testing or medical intervention. That is why the world is advocating for self isolation.

Act as though you already have it.

[pugboy]

the question is why is he at couva and was expected to be kept there under watch
as opposed to home isolation

maybe he is a direct contact of some other positive case and expected to possibly turn positive.

[rspann]

He's "negative". It could be a false negative as the test could have been taken to early and his viral load was too low. This is why random testing simply would not work. The results would be useless without patient context and history.

This is why it's key at this point to stay home. Guys, testing is useless as most people who present to the hospital don't present because they think they have the virus. They go to the hospital because they are struggling to breathe and symptoms are worsening. This usually occurs around day 10. If your symptoms are improving then there really is no need to present for testing or medical intervention. That is why the world is advocating for self isolation.

Act as though you already have it.

Redress, the talk about longer incubation periods ( I saw somebody mention up to 42 days) is there any merit in it

Do they keep patients who are under observation separately ? I mean like in private rooms.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections

As if the current situation isn't already bad enough - these projected numbers are scary!!!

This same site is projecting up to 2200 deaths a day in the US alone by the time it peaks on April 15

[Redress10]

the question is why is he at couva and was expected to be kept there under watch
as opposed to home isolation

maybe he is a direct contact of some other positive case and expected to possibly turn positive.

This makes sense.

So in testing, you are looking at a lot of factors. Remember you are not just testing but also looking at factors such as symptoms, who he was in contact with etc to gauge what his negative test result means. So if he was in direct contact with someone who was confirmed positive such as a spouse, family member, close friend etc and he's displaying appropriate symptoms and he's still testing negative then he should definitely be placed under observation and tested appropriately until he is outside his testing window.

Remember there are also legal and health ramifications to this meaning as long as gov't test you and there is a strong indication that you may turn positive soon then they can't just let you back out amongst the local population because your test is "negative". That is a false sense of security for the person negative who may forego any further isolation and may result in greater risk of spreading it to the rest of the population.

[pugboy]

the us authorities saying their models predict between 80-200k deaths this year
and many states have little or no lockdown requirements

[pugboy]

they never give stats on how many direct contact family/friends in quarantine yet and no journalist ask that question yet,
spann you better become a journalist you does ask the pertinent questions

He's "negative". It could be a false negative as the test could have been taken to early and his viral load was too low. This is why random testing simply would not work. The results would be useless without patient context and history.

This is why it's key at this point to stay home. Guys, testing is useless as most people who present to the hospital don't present because they think they have the virus. They go to the hospital because they are struggling to breathe and symptoms are worsening. This usually occurs around day 10. If your symptoms are improving then there really is no need to present for testing or medical intervention. That is why the world is advocating for self isolation.

Act as though you already have it.

Redress, the talk about longer incubation periods ( I saw somebody mention up to 42 days) is there any merit in it

Do they keep patients who are under observation separately ? I mean like in private rooms.

[paid_influencer]

some terms-

quarantine is the detention of persons suspected but not yet confirmed to have the virus. The cruise ship passengers were quarantined in Balandra, for example, before moving to Couva or Caura. The negative ones are still kept are still under quarantine until their incubation period is over.

If you get a positive test, the term becomes medical isolation and not quarantine.

On testing -
-when you first get infected, your viral load is near 0.
-That goes up steadily and reaches a point where it becomes detectable via the PCR test at CARPHA (usually day 3-5). Before this level it is "undetectable", even though you have been infected. this is what the Deyalsingh is talking about when he says "false negatives" in testing asymptomatic people.
-As your viral load increases further, you might still be asymptomatic, but you start being able to spread the virus to others. Higher viral loads means you are more infectious. this usually starts about day 4 (and lasts a day or two until symptoms develop).
-You develop symptoms when your viral load becomes very high. This is, at the latest for 95% of cases, 14 days after you've been infected.

We quarantine people for 14 days and if they don't have symptoms, we can be pretty certain they don't have the virus. Hence the reason most of us are at home for 14 days now. That is why that runaway was being kept at this hospital for his 14 day stay.

[Redress10]

He's "negative". It could be a false negative as the test could have been taken to early and his viral load was too low. This is why random testing simply would not work. The results would be useless without patient context and history.

This is why it's key at this point to stay home. Guys, testing is useless as most people who present to the hospital don't present because they think they have the virus. They go to the hospital because they are struggling to breathe and symptoms are worsening. This usually occurs around day 10. If your symptoms are improving then there really is no need to present for testing or medical intervention. That is why the world is advocating for self isolation.

Act as though you already have it.

Redress, the talk about longer incubation periods ( I saw somebody mention up to 42 days) is there any merit in it

Do they keep patients who are under observation separately ? I mean like in private rooms.

Not sure about the longer incubation periods. This is a short term disease about 3 weeks in duration so 42 days seems extreme. The clinical reality is always what is important. What are the doctors on the ground seeing with the majority. They are seeing a window period of 2-14 days with people getting ill by day 2 and the majority testing positive by day 5.

A lot of what is said in the medical field always needs to be placed into perspective. Plenty information is also anecdotal. So in testing, a patient would be asked a series of questions and from these answers, this data is compiled. So a disease such as this, that initially would be focused on people who travelled recently then you could see how this is problematic as a patient who gives a travel date that was "42" days ago would present as an "outlier" even though the patient may not have been aware of other more recent exposure risks.

That's where figures such as "42" days sometimes come from. This figure could also come from a simple case of a crack addict getting his dates wrong or not knowing what exposure is. There's also the possibility of reinfections causing confusing datelines.

A more realistic case is when patients have underlying medical conditions that cause their bodies not to produce enough antibodies for any disease. These are rare and the person would know that they have such diseases cause they are usually lifelong. Also people who take immuno suppresant drugs etc for organ transplant also fall in this group. They would have an extended test window to deal with.

Not sure what the conditions are in Couva regarding patient isolation and treatment.

[redmanjp]

and persons can become contagious up to 2 days before showing symptoms- some may never show symptoms

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