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shake d livin wake d dead wrote:adnj wrote:shake d livin wake d dead wrote:De Dragon wrote:hover11 wrote:Wait so are you saying the mandatory mask wearing law isn't working, since we are getting cases regardless...as we open up more the cases will rise, more people interactingredmanjp wrote:Even if we take out the prison cluster cases are going up again in the community. I'm afraid this is the beginning of the 3rd wave which might see restrictions by Christmas
Mask mandates help greatly, BUT they have to be worn properly EVERY TIME. Take a casual look at any group, and count how many you see with none, under their chin, below their nose etc.
Before we ever check how its worn...we need to check the type!!!!! 80% of masks out there are cloth which does nothing. Only a handful of people using surgical or n95
Quoted:
"Cloth masks have limited inward protection in healthcare settings where viral exposure is high but may be beneficial for outward protection in low-risk settings and use by the general public where no other alternatives to medical masks are available."
https://www.cureus.com/articles/38957-e ... ing-review
I still not risking it
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:shake d livin wake d dead wrote:adnj wrote:shake d livin wake d dead wrote:De Dragon wrote:hover11 wrote:Wait so are you saying the mandatory mask wearing law isn't working, since we are getting cases regardless...as we open up more the cases will rise, more people interactingredmanjp wrote:Even if we take out the prison cluster cases are going up again in the community. I'm afraid this is the beginning of the 3rd wave which might see restrictions by Christmas
Mask mandates help greatly, BUT they have to be worn properly EVERY TIME. Take a casual look at any group, and count how many you see with none, under their chin, below their nose etc.
Before we ever check how its worn...we need to check the type!!!!! 80% of masks out there are cloth which does nothing. Only a handful of people using surgical or n95
Quoted:
"Cloth masks have limited inward protection in healthcare settings where viral exposure is high but may be beneficial for outward protection in low-risk settings and use by the general public where no other alternatives to medical masks are available."
https://www.cureus.com/articles/38957-e ... ing-review
I still not risking it
Shrugs shoulders
900 on Mayo Clinic staff have contracted coronavirus in last two weeks
All 32 beds in dedicated Covid ICU at Mayo are now full, clinic adding more beds
Mayo Clinic
By PAUL JOHN SCOTT | Forum News Service
PUBLISHED: November 17, 2020 at 6:11 p.m. | UPDATED: November 17, 2020 at 8:34 p.m.
ROCHESTER, Minn. — Over 900 Mayo Clinic staff have contracted COVID-19 in the past two weeks, according to a Tuesday briefing by Dr. Amy Williams, dean of clinical practice.
Williams said that 93 percent of staff who have contracted the virus did so in the community, and that the majority of those who contracted the virus at work did so while eating in a break room with a mask off.
“It shows you how easy it is to get COVID-19 in the Midwest,” said Willams, during an afternoon press call. “Our staff are being infected mostly due to community spread, and this impacts our ability to care for patients. We need everyone in the communities we serve to do their part to limit the spread of COVID-19.”
The 900 staff newly diagnosed with COVID-19 equals over one-third of the 2,981 Mayo employees diagnosed since the start of the outbreak. When you add in staff who are quarantined or taken offline in order to care for relatives, the clinic is currently experiencing a stable shortage of 1,500 staff systemwide, 1,000 in Rochester.
In other news, with 32 COVID-19 patients hospitalized in the clinic’s General Medicine ICU dedicated for the care of COVID-19, the clinic has filled all of its allotted ICU beds for the virus in Rochester, and is in the process of expanding that center by 12 to 13 beds.
“We have 32 COVID patients needing tertiary care, and that’s not good,” Williams said. “It tells us we’re in a surge.”
The clinic has 18 specialty ICU wards in Rochester total with multiple beds in each, but those floors are designed to treat a host of other patients whose numbers are not decreasing.
Williams said there are currently 73 patients hospitalized with COVID-19 in a non-ICU setting at Mayo, 255 system-wide.
In northwest Wisconsin, Mayo has hospitalized 79 COVID-19 patients, nine in an ICU. In southeast Minnesota, Mayo has hospitalized 11 COVID-19 patients, three in an ICU. In southwest Minnesota, Mayo has hospitalized 38 COVID-19 patients, five in an ICU. And in southwest Wisconsin, Mayo has hospitalized 22 COVID-19 patients, one in an ICU.
You do know masks are not fool proof right?redmanjp wrote:what d hell, nobody was wearing masks there or what
https://www.twincities.com/2020/11/17/over-900-mayo-staff-have-gotten-covid-19-in-past-two-weeks/900 on Mayo Clinic staff have contracted coronavirus in last two weeks
All 32 beds in dedicated Covid ICU at Mayo are now full, clinic adding more beds
Mayo Clinic
By PAUL JOHN SCOTT | Forum News Service
PUBLISHED: November 17, 2020 at 6:11 p.m. | UPDATED: November 17, 2020 at 8:34 p.m.
ROCHESTER, Minn. — Over 900 Mayo Clinic staff have contracted COVID-19 in the past two weeks, according to a Tuesday briefing by Dr. Amy Williams, dean of clinical practice.
Williams said that 93 percent of staff who have contracted the virus did so in the community, and that the majority of those who contracted the virus at work did so while eating in a break room with a mask off.
“It shows you how easy it is to get COVID-19 in the Midwest,” said Willams, during an afternoon press call. “Our staff are being infected mostly due to community spread, and this impacts our ability to care for patients. We need everyone in the communities we serve to do their part to limit the spread of COVID-19.”
The 900 staff newly diagnosed with COVID-19 equals over one-third of the 2,981 Mayo employees diagnosed since the start of the outbreak. When you add in staff who are quarantined or taken offline in order to care for relatives, the clinic is currently experiencing a stable shortage of 1,500 staff systemwide, 1,000 in Rochester.
In other news, with 32 COVID-19 patients hospitalized in the clinic’s General Medicine ICU dedicated for the care of COVID-19, the clinic has filled all of its allotted ICU beds for the virus in Rochester, and is in the process of expanding that center by 12 to 13 beds.
“We have 32 COVID patients needing tertiary care, and that’s not good,” Williams said. “It tells us we’re in a surge.”
The clinic has 18 specialty ICU wards in Rochester total with multiple beds in each, but those floors are designed to treat a host of other patients whose numbers are not decreasing.
Williams said there are currently 73 patients hospitalized with COVID-19 in a non-ICU setting at Mayo, 255 system-wide.
In northwest Wisconsin, Mayo has hospitalized 79 COVID-19 patients, nine in an ICU. In southeast Minnesota, Mayo has hospitalized 11 COVID-19 patients, three in an ICU. In southwest Minnesota, Mayo has hospitalized 38 COVID-19 patients, five in an ICU. And in southwest Wisconsin, Mayo has hospitalized 22 COVID-19 patients, one in an ICU.
hover11 wrote:You do know masks are not fool proof right?redmanjp wrote:what d hell, nobody was wearing masks there or what
https://www.twincities.com/2020/11/17/over-900-mayo-staff-have-gotten-covid-19-in-past-two-weeks/900 on Mayo Clinic staff have contracted coronavirus in last two weeks
All 32 beds in dedicated Covid ICU at Mayo are now full, clinic adding more beds
Mayo Clinic
By PAUL JOHN SCOTT | Forum News Service
PUBLISHED: November 17, 2020 at 6:11 p.m. | UPDATED: November 17, 2020 at 8:34 p.m.
ROCHESTER, Minn. — Over 900 Mayo Clinic staff have contracted COVID-19 in the past two weeks, according to a Tuesday briefing by Dr. Amy Williams, dean of clinical practice.
Williams said that 93 percent of staff who have contracted the virus did so in the community, and that the majority of those who contracted the virus at work did so while eating in a break room with a mask off.
“It shows you how easy it is to get COVID-19 in the Midwest,” said Willams, during an afternoon press call. “Our staff are being infected mostly due to community spread, and this impacts our ability to care for patients. We need everyone in the communities we serve to do their part to limit the spread of COVID-19.”
The 900 staff newly diagnosed with COVID-19 equals over one-third of the 2,981 Mayo employees diagnosed since the start of the outbreak. When you add in staff who are quarantined or taken offline in order to care for relatives, the clinic is currently experiencing a stable shortage of 1,500 staff systemwide, 1,000 in Rochester.
In other news, with 32 COVID-19 patients hospitalized in the clinic’s General Medicine ICU dedicated for the care of COVID-19, the clinic has filled all of its allotted ICU beds for the virus in Rochester, and is in the process of expanding that center by 12 to 13 beds.
“We have 32 COVID patients needing tertiary care, and that’s not good,” Williams said. “It tells us we’re in a surge.”
The clinic has 18 specialty ICU wards in Rochester total with multiple beds in each, but those floors are designed to treat a host of other patients whose numbers are not decreasing.
Williams said there are currently 73 patients hospitalized with COVID-19 in a non-ICU setting at Mayo, 255 system-wide.
In northwest Wisconsin, Mayo has hospitalized 79 COVID-19 patients, nine in an ICU. In southeast Minnesota, Mayo has hospitalized 11 COVID-19 patients, three in an ICU. In southwest Minnesota, Mayo has hospitalized 38 COVID-19 patients, five in an ICU. And in southwest Wisconsin, Mayo has hospitalized 22 COVID-19 patients, one in an ICU.
hover11 wrote:You do know masks are not fool proof right?redmanjp wrote:what d hell, nobody was wearing masks there or what
https://www.twincities.com/2020/11/17/over-900-mayo-staff-have-gotten-covid-19-in-past-two-weeks/900 on Mayo Clinic staff have contracted coronavirus in last two weeks
All 32 beds in dedicated Covid ICU at Mayo are now full, clinic adding more beds
Mayo Clinic
By PAUL JOHN SCOTT | Forum News Service
PUBLISHED: November 17, 2020 at 6:11 p.m. | UPDATED: November 17, 2020 at 8:34 p.m.
ROCHESTER, Minn. — Over 900 Mayo Clinic staff have contracted COVID-19 in the past two weeks, according to a Tuesday briefing by Dr. Amy Williams, dean of clinical practice.
Williams said that 93 percent of staff who have contracted the virus did so in the community, and that the majority of those who contracted the virus at work did so while eating in a break room with a mask off.
“It shows you how easy it is to get COVID-19 in the Midwest,” said Willams, during an afternoon press call. “Our staff are being infected mostly due to community spread, and this impacts our ability to care for patients. We need everyone in the communities we serve to do their part to limit the spread of COVID-19.”
The 900 staff newly diagnosed with COVID-19 equals over one-third of the 2,981 Mayo employees diagnosed since the start of the outbreak. When you add in staff who are quarantined or taken offline in order to care for relatives, the clinic is currently experiencing a stable shortage of 1,500 staff systemwide, 1,000 in Rochester.
In other news, with 32 COVID-19 patients hospitalized in the clinic’s General Medicine ICU dedicated for the care of COVID-19, the clinic has filled all of its allotted ICU beds for the virus in Rochester, and is in the process of expanding that center by 12 to 13 beds.
“We have 32 COVID patients needing tertiary care, and that’s not good,” Williams said. “It tells us we’re in a surge.”
The clinic has 18 specialty ICU wards in Rochester total with multiple beds in each, but those floors are designed to treat a host of other patients whose numbers are not decreasing.
Williams said there are currently 73 patients hospitalized with COVID-19 in a non-ICU setting at Mayo, 255 system-wide.
In northwest Wisconsin, Mayo has hospitalized 79 COVID-19 patients, nine in an ICU. In southeast Minnesota, Mayo has hospitalized 11 COVID-19 patients, three in an ICU. In southwest Minnesota, Mayo has hospitalized 38 COVID-19 patients, five in an ICU. And in southwest Wisconsin, Mayo has hospitalized 22 COVID-19 patients, one in an ICU.
Trinispougla wrote:hover11 wrote:You do know masks are not fool proof right?redmanjp wrote:what d hell, nobody was wearing masks there or what
https://www.twincities.com/2020/11/17/over-900-mayo-staff-have-gotten-covid-19-in-past-two-weeks/900 on Mayo Clinic staff have contracted coronavirus in last two weeks
All 32 beds in dedicated Covid ICU at Mayo are now full, clinic adding more beds
Mayo Clinic
By PAUL JOHN SCOTT | Forum News Service
PUBLISHED: November 17, 2020 at 6:11 p.m. | UPDATED: November 17, 2020 at 8:34 p.m.
ROCHESTER, Minn. — Over 900 Mayo Clinic staff have contracted COVID-19 in the past two weeks, according to a Tuesday briefing by Dr. Amy Williams, dean of clinical practice.
Williams said that 93 percent of staff who have contracted the virus did so in the community, and that the majority of those who contracted the virus at work did so while eating in a break room with a mask off.
“It shows you how easy it is to get COVID-19 in the Midwest,” said Willams, during an afternoon press call. “Our staff are being infected mostly due to community spread, and this impacts our ability to care for patients. We need everyone in the communities we serve to do their part to limit the spread of COVID-19.”
The 900 staff newly diagnosed with COVID-19 equals over one-third of the 2,981 Mayo employees diagnosed since the start of the outbreak. When you add in staff who are quarantined or taken offline in order to care for relatives, the clinic is currently experiencing a stable shortage of 1,500 staff systemwide, 1,000 in Rochester.
In other news, with 32 COVID-19 patients hospitalized in the clinic’s General Medicine ICU dedicated for the care of COVID-19, the clinic has filled all of its allotted ICU beds for the virus in Rochester, and is in the process of expanding that center by 12 to 13 beds.
“We have 32 COVID patients needing tertiary care, and that’s not good,” Williams said. “It tells us we’re in a surge.”
The clinic has 18 specialty ICU wards in Rochester total with multiple beds in each, but those floors are designed to treat a host of other patients whose numbers are not decreasing.
Williams said there are currently 73 patients hospitalized with COVID-19 in a non-ICU setting at Mayo, 255 system-wide.
In northwest Wisconsin, Mayo has hospitalized 79 COVID-19 patients, nine in an ICU. In southeast Minnesota, Mayo has hospitalized 11 COVID-19 patients, three in an ICU. In southwest Minnesota, Mayo has hospitalized 38 COVID-19 patients, five in an ICU. And in southwest Wisconsin, Mayo has hospitalized 22 COVID-19 patients, one in an ICU.
that may be so....but it is your best bet. Also, what plays a contributing role is the volume of virus that enters your body. The more viral particles, the sicker you become. If masks had been taken seriously at the start of the pandemic, i guarantee you that virus would have been controlled early by China and it may not have even reached our part of the world
redmanjp wrote:^ the ppl who silenced the doctors as well in the last weeks of december last year
Dohplaydat wrote:redmanjp wrote:^ the ppl who silenced the doctors as well in the last weeks of december last year
Well true dat too, so still mostly China but China contained it. The rest of the world did not.
hover11 wrote:One thing which this has shown me is how easy a pandemic can be created even in today's modern society, it scary if something worse than this appears how would we copeDohplaydat wrote:redmanjp wrote:^ the ppl who silenced the doctors as well in the last weeks of december last year
Well true dat too, so still mostly China but China contained it. The rest of the world did not.
redmanjp wrote:hover11 wrote:One thing which this has shown me is how easy a pandemic can be created even in today's modern society, it scary if something worse than this appears how would we copeDohplaydat wrote:redmanjp wrote:^ the ppl who silenced the doctors as well in the last weeks of december last year
Well true dat too, so still mostly China but China contained it. The rest of the world did not.
it's a double edged sword- one one hand we have advancements in technology but on the other we have 1000s of planes flying everywhere in the world everyday which can spread it much faster than a century ago.
and yes, something worse can emerge like bird flu- it's not just how deadly, but how contagious it is. covid's mortality ranges between 1-3% but is so contagious it has killed way more than SARS-cov1 even though it was more deadly. (SARS-COV2 being covid) i hope that 'songbird' movie with covid-23 doh come to pass
pete wrote:That's saying that the only thing to worry about is death and isn't considering all the other health complications associated with it. It causes a lot of damage to the body which may cause health complications both short term and later in life.
Even the flu increases risk of heart disease etc.
The goal of every country should be to try to keep that from happening.
Side note. After yesterday's update, using only the daily update data, our 7 day average has doubled to 34 from 17 cases a day on the 10th. This isn't taking into consideration the prison outbreak or repatriated persons.
paid_influencer wrote:I took a quick trip to the mall yesterday for some Christmas shopping. What going on right now is madness - people liming in food court without masks, people walking around the mall with mask on chin, crowds at regular pre-covid levels, and the mall decorated up with large props and stages - forcing crowds into more limited spaces. I was legit disturbed by how people seem to have completely forgotten there is a pandemic going on.
This will not end well. What is happening in the USA is going to happen here. And we, with our shithole resources, will not handle it nearly as well.
Keith, end this now. Roll it back before it is too late.
elec2020 wrote:^ doubt schools re-opening anytime soon. We saw it before. As soon as school opened for SEA some kids got infected. And that was just for one level of students. Imagine for all students. Imo school ain't re-opening until 2022 (i believe that we are carded to get the vaccine 8 to 10 months after the developed countries and even so that vaccine is for those at risk so we may not have vaccination to the level needed to reopen school till mid or late 2022).
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