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shake d livin wake d dead wrote:87 now
redmanjp wrote:and persons can become contagious up to 2 days before showing symptoms- some may never show symptoms
redmanjp wrote:shake d livin wake d dead wrote:87 now
imported? local spread?
“We were able to contain the outbreak here, because we identified and eliminated the ‘submerged’ infections and isolated them,” Andrea Crisanti, an infections expert at Imperial College London, who took part in the Vò project, told the Financial Times. “That is what makes the difference.”
The research allowed for the identification of at least six asymptomatic people who tested positive for Covid-19. ‘‘If these people had not been discovered,” said the researchers, they would probably have unknowingly infected other inhabitants.
“The percentage of infected people, even if asymptomatic, in the population is very high,” wrote Sergio Romagnani, professor of clinical immunology at the University of Florence, in a letter to the authorities. “The isolation of asymptomatics is essential to be able to control the spread of the virus and the severity of the disease.”
Dohplaydat wrote:Can someone explain why we refuse to test Asymptomatic people?
Is it that with our testing procedures, you can only test positive when symptoms show? I've done some research online and I could not find a single test that works better when you're showing symptoms.
In fact, I found the opposite where viral loads were highest in people right before they start showing symptoms.
If someone has reason to believe they've been in contact with a person who had Covid-19, then f*cking test them.
Why are we only testing ~10-20 cases a day when we should be testing much more, we need to stop refusing people tests.
If this virus spreads out of control it will be mainly due to the sh*tty testing procedures we've set up.
Why? Because my uncle is showing symptoms right now. He has been mostly at home for the last 2 weeks, but he did go to the pharmacy one and grocery one over a week ago. Yesterday he developed fever, headache, slight sore throat, no cough yet.
He called and got blanked. I'm utterly confused as to who we even f*cking test right now.
MaxPower wrote:Dohplaydat wrote:Can someone explain why we refuse to test Asymptomatic people?
Is it that with our testing procedures, you can only test positive when symptoms show? I've done some research online and I could not find a single test that works better when you're showing symptoms.
In fact, I found the opposite where viral loads were highest in people right before they start showing symptoms.
If someone has reason to believe they've been in contact with a person who had Covid-19, then f*cking test them.
Why are we only testing ~10-20 cases a day when we should be testing much more, we need to stop refusing people tests.
If this virus spreads out of control it will be mainly due to the sh*tty testing procedures we've set up.
Why? Because my uncle is showing symptoms right now. He has been mostly at home for the last 2 weeks, but he did go to the pharmacy one and grocery one over a week ago. Yesterday he developed fever, headache, slight sore throat, no cough yet.
He called and got blanked. I'm utterly confused as to who we even f*cking test right now.
Hello DPD,
I agree with your concerns.
The Govt basically wants you to self isolate and not stress the facilities and resources. They are only interested in severe cases.
This can work but only IF we practice COMPLETE social distancing so those with mild symptoms can fight off the virus and not spread it in society.
Unfortunately, due to the obvious Trinidadian mentality, those with mild symptoms are denied tests and allowed to roam freely among other locals, totally disregarding social distancing.
The govt is assuring the public that they are a “step ahead”. This is incorrect as these Stay at Home orders and “quarantine law” should have been implemented even before the borders were closed. That way, anyone arriving 2 weeks before the border closure will enter the country with this already in effect. But no, can you imagine how many of the massive influx of arriving passengers (20,000 approx) were in the ridiculous and embarrassing crowds in the passed few days? As i mentioned before, the damage is already done.
Right now all we can do is hope and pray because the govt of T&T is really depending on the disgusting population to flatten the curve.
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:^ MoH said having no symptoms could produce an incorrect reading.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... oronavirus
According to this and other articles it is possible to have the virus and be completely asymptomatic and still spread it.
https://www.dw.com/en/up-to-30-of-coron ... a-52900988
This says in one study by the Japanese scientists in China show that up to 30% of those infected were asymptomatic.
There is SO MUCH information online about the virus from varying sources that searches can easily feed our confirmation bias.
It's easy to find exactly what you are looking for, even if it's not correct.
rexsmith wrote:based on is going on across the world and the lockdown taken. what is your estimate for things to normalize here and business as usual?
redmanjp wrote:^so u saying those articles u linked to are wrong?
WHO says repeatedly test test test every suspected case & isolate
South Korea did thousands of test per day so they know exactly what's going on in their country and can isolate every infected person- rather than having these ppl walking around feeling fine (as a certain prison officer who came into contact with a certain tv host said) and stealthily spreading it.
wont be surprised if there is an outbreak in prison.
Redress10 wrote:He's "negative". It could be a false negative as the test could have been taken to early and his viral load was too low. This is why random testing simply would not work. The results would be useless without patient context and history.
This is why it's key at this point to stay home. Guys, testing is useless as most people who present to the hospital don't present because they think they have the virus. They go to the hospital because they are struggling to breathe and symptoms are worsening. This usually occurs around day 10. If your symptoms are improving then there really is no need to present for testing or medical intervention. That is why the world is advocating for self isolation.
Act as though you already have it.
Dohplaydat wrote:rexsmith wrote:based on is going on across the world and the lockdown taken. what is your estimate for things to normalize here and business as usual?
I have been looking at the stats and it seems we're 3-4 weeks away from our peak. Cases should start increasing in frequency later this week I imagine.
However, as of now, people with mild symptoms are being told not to come in for testing unless it starts getting serious.
With the mad rush and lack of social distancing last week, expect a surge of cases to develop in the next 2 weeks.
From the looks of it though we now start and far from normalized just yet. Peaks tend to last 2 weeks as well.
So maybe ~6 weeks we'll be back to some normality I hope.
Dohplaydat wrote:rexsmith wrote:based on is going on across the world and the lockdown taken. what is your estimate for things to normalize here and business as usual?
I have been looking at the stats and it seems we're 3-4 weeks away from our peak. Cases should start increasing in frequency later this week I imagine.
However, as of now, people with mild symptoms are being told not to come in for testing unless it starts getting serious.
With the mad rush and lack of social distancing last week, expect a surge of cases to develop in the next 2 weeks.
From the looks of it though we now start and far from normalized just yet. Peaks tend to last 2 weeks as well.
So maybe ~6 weeks we'll be back to some normality I hope.
redmanjp wrote:Dohplaydat wrote:rexsmith wrote:based on is going on across the world and the lockdown taken. what is your estimate for things to normalize here and business as usual?
I have been looking at the stats and it seems we're 3-4 weeks away from our peak. Cases should start increasing in frequency later this week I imagine.
However, as of now, people with mild symptoms are being told not to come in for testing unless it starts getting serious.
With the mad rush and lack of social distancing last week, expect a surge of cases to develop in the next 2 weeks.
From the looks of it though we now start and far from normalized just yet. Peaks tend to last 2 weeks as well.
So maybe ~6 weeks we'll be back to some normality I hope.
flattening the curve also means prolonging the time- it could take a few months if either ppl who supposed to be in quarantine leave and go out in public or if there are asymptomatic ppl or even symptomatic ppl who doh qualify for a test are out in public continuing to spread it.
paid_influencer wrote:white house team is showing the results from the "15-days to slow the spread" lockdown measures and the result is:
"30 days to slow the spread", meaning measures in place for another 30 days.
they do have good data though. Everybody needs to lock down and we can beat this.
MaxPower wrote:Hello p.i,
Would you say we are locked down?
What are your thoughts with these flexible stay at home measures?
The lack of social distancing being displayed by trinis is atrocious. All these ppl in lines outside banks and groceries almost jamming up on one another. Since last week Thursday it start and still going on. Community spread from panic buying.Dohplaydat wrote:rexsmith wrote:based on is going on across the world and the lockdown taken. what is your estimate for things to normalize here and business as usual?
I have been looking at the stats and it seems we're 3-4 weeks away from our peak. Cases should start increasing in frequency later this week I imagine.
However, as of now, people with mild symptoms are being told not to come in for testing unless it starts getting serious.
With the mad rush and lack of social distancing last week, expect a surge of cases to develop in the next 2 weeks.
From the looks of it though we now start and far from normalized just yet. Peaks tend to last 2 weeks as well.
So maybe ~6 weeks we'll be back to some normality I hope.
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