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teems1 wrote:There are 2 issues intertwined here which appears to be obfuscating the general public as to how to approach.
1) Grooming of a young teenager and radicalizing them.
2) Revoke someone's citizenship which may render them stateless.
(1) She was groomed online at 13/14 years old and ran away to Istanbul at 15. She is a victim in this case. If we can protect 13/14 year olds from pedos and pervs, we should be able to do so in this case.
The fact that she appears to show no remorse for her decision even at the age of 20 is besides the point. She is a victim of brainwashing, and thus any statement(s) she make are not a true reflection of her character.
She needs to go through a rehab facility to see the error of her ways and basically deprogram her.
(2) The UK government saw an easy way out seeing that she holds Bangladeshi citizenship, and thus is attempting to remove the UK citizenship to basically make her "someone else's problem".
This sets an unethical precedent, whereby you simply try to get rid of the problem when it suits you.
What about Bangladesh in this case? She was born in the UK and spent her entire life there, why should Bangladesh end up with her?
It ends up basically who can file papers faster?
Everyone loves sheitting on the US, but a facility like Gitmo would have been perfect for holding her.
She is in a facility that is similar to Cuba's US Naval Guantanamo Bay Detention Camp -- the Al-Roj camp run by the Syrian Democratic Forces in Syria.teems1 wrote:There are 2 issues intertwined here which appears to be obfuscating the general public as to how to approach.
1) Grooming of a young teenager and radicalizing them.
2) Revoke someone's citizenship which may render them stateless.
(1) She was groomed online at 13/14 years old and ran away to Istanbul at 15. She is a victim in this case. If we can protect 13/14 year olds from pedos and pervs, we should be able to do so in this case.
The fact that she appears to show no remorse for her decision even at the age of 20 is besides the point. She is a victim of brainwashing, and thus any statement(s) she make are not a true reflection of her character.
She needs to go through a rehab facility to see the error of her ways and basically deprogram her.
(2) The UK government saw an easy way out seeing that she holds Bangladeshi citizenship, and thus is attempting to remove the UK citizenship to basically make her "someone else's problem".
This sets an unethical precedent, whereby you simply try to get rid of the problem when it suits you.
What about Bangladesh in this case? She was born in the UK and spent her entire life there, why should Bangladesh end up with her?
It ends up basically who can file papers faster?
Everyone loves sheitting on the US, but a facility like Gitmo would have been perfect for holding her.
adnj wrote:She is in a facility that is similar to Cuba's US Naval Guantanamo Bay Detention Camp -- the Al-Roj camp run by the Syrian Democratic Forces in Syria.teems1 wrote:There are 2 issues intertwined here which appears to be obfuscating the general public as to how to approach.
1) Grooming of a young teenager and radicalizing them.
2) Revoke someone's citizenship which may render them stateless.
(1) She was groomed online at 13/14 years old and ran away to Istanbul at 15. She is a victim in this case. If we can protect 13/14 year olds from pedos and pervs, we should be able to do so in this case.
The fact that she appears to show no remorse for her decision even at the age of 20 is besides the point. She is a victim of brainwashing, and thus any statement(s) she make are not a true reflection of her character.
She needs to go through a rehab facility to see the error of her ways and basically deprogram her.
(2) The UK government saw an easy way out seeing that she holds Bangladeshi citizenship, and thus is attempting to remove the UK citizenship to basically make her "someone else's problem".
This sets an unethical precedent, whereby you simply try to get rid of the problem when it suits you.
What about Bangladesh in this case? She was born in the UK and spent her entire life there, why should Bangladesh end up with her?
It ends up basically who can file papers faster?
Everyone loves sheitting on the US, but a facility like Gitmo would have been perfect for holding her.
teems1 wrote:adnj wrote:She is in a facility that is similar to Cuba's US Naval Guantanamo Bay Detention Camp -- the Al-Roj camp run by the Syrian Democratic Forces in Syria.teems1 wrote:There are 2 issues intertwined here which appears to be obfuscating the general public as to how to approach.
1) Grooming of a young teenager and radicalizing them.
2) Revoke someone's citizenship which may render them stateless.
(1) She was groomed online at 13/14 years old and ran away to Istanbul at 15. She is a victim in this case. If we can protect 13/14 year olds from pedos and pervs, we should be able to do so in this case.
The fact that she appears to show no remorse for her decision even at the age of 20 is besides the point. She is a victim of brainwashing, and thus any statement(s) she make are not a true reflection of her character.
She needs to go through a rehab facility to see the error of her ways and basically deprogram her.
(2) The UK government saw an easy way out seeing that she holds Bangladeshi citizenship, and thus is attempting to remove the UK citizenship to basically make her "someone else's problem".
This sets an unethical precedent, whereby you simply try to get rid of the problem when it suits you.
What about Bangladesh in this case? She was born in the UK and spent her entire life there, why should Bangladesh end up with her?
It ends up basically who can file papers faster?
Everyone loves sheitting on the US, but a facility like Gitmo would have been perfect for holding her.
Shamima is probably few tents away from other destroyed families whom Shamima's Dutch radical husband probably killed.
That's nowhere near the same as Gitmo where they only keep terrorists.
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