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Yea, my pump man say every year or two give it a scrapdown and clean out. Esp since I don't use filters .Ted_v2 wrote:
turns out these stuff needs to be flushed out ever so often, that i never did. im 100 percent sure its some sediment inside that started it.
i have a state select water heater i plan to flush this weekend and take a look at the anode that does rotten
VexXx Dogg wrote:Yea, my pump man say every year or two give it a scrapdown and clean out. Esp since I don't use filters .Ted_v2 wrote:IMG_6167.JPG
turns out these stuff needs to be flushed out ever so often, that i never did. im 100 percent sure its some sediment inside that started it.
i have a state select water heater i plan to flush this weekend and take a look at the anode that does rotten
Granted I only see my pump man every 3-4 years when the smart head buss or bearings go bad.... and he does cuss to clean the buildup
Good thing I see this, soon I looking to put in a pressure tank on the system, this will come in very handyPhone Surgeon wrote:this so much easier to adjust and view
pugboy wrote:there is a guy on fb i bought a used backup goilds from
he does refresh service etc reasonable and sells units he did over
NR8 wrote:pugboy wrote:there is a guy on fb i bought a used backup goilds from
he does refresh service etc reasonable and sells units he did over
Name/link?
Musical Doc wrote:I have a pentax pm45 about 3 months which I use twice a week to pump water from the 1000 gal downstairs to the 400 gal upstairs which I use to supply the house via gravity flow. A couple times when I put on the pump I got a low humming noise for about 5 seconds then its comes on. What could cause that?
Musical Doc wrote:I have a pentax pm45 about 3 months which I use twice a week to pump water from the 1000 gal downstairs to the 400 gal upstairs which I use to supply the house via gravity flow. A couple times when I put on the pump I got a low humming noise for about 5 seconds then its comes on. What could cause that?
pugboy wrote:capacitor could be bad or sticky bearings
but if bearings bad it should make rough sound when runningMusical Doc wrote:I have a pentax pm45 about 3 months which I use twice a week to pump water from the 1000 gal downstairs to the 400 gal upstairs which I use to supply the house via gravity flow. A couple times when I put on the pump I got a low humming noise for about 5 seconds then its comes on. What could cause that?
wheelbarrow wrote:Musical Doc wrote:I have a pentax pm45 about 3 months which I use twice a week to pump water from the 1000 gal downstairs to the 400 gal upstairs which I use to supply the house via gravity flow. A couple times when I put on the pump I got a low humming noise for about 5 seconds then its comes on. What could cause that?
The way the brass impeller is positioned so closely to the internal pump volute in the PM45, the deposits and sediment in the local water supply will cause the impeller to stick.
That’s why it hums a bit before it starts up.
Musical Doc wrote:wheelbarrow wrote:Musical Doc wrote:I have a pentax pm45 about 3 months which I use twice a week to pump water from the 1000 gal downstairs to the 400 gal upstairs which I use to supply the house via gravity flow. A couple times when I put on the pump I got a low humming noise for about 5 seconds then its comes on. What could cause that?
The way the brass impeller is positioned so closely to the internal pump volute in the PM45, the deposits and sediment in the local water supply will cause the impeller to stick.
That’s why it hums a bit before it starts up.
Ok so what damage could this cause? And is there any way to prevent that?
adnj wrote:Musical Doc wrote:wheelbarrow wrote:Musical Doc wrote:I have a pentax pm45 about 3 months which I use twice a week to pump water from the 1000 gal downstairs to the 400 gal upstairs which I use to supply the house via gravity flow. A couple times when I put on the pump I got a low humming noise for about 5 seconds then its comes on. What could cause that?
The way the brass impeller is positioned so closely to the internal pump volute in the PM45, the deposits and sediment in the local water supply will cause the impeller to stick.
That’s why it hums a bit before it starts up.
Ok so what damage could this cause? And is there any way to prevent that?
This is a common problem for lift pumps with even low water turbidity. Run the pump more often for a short period of time to prevent seizure.
trinimark wrote:The smart head that came with my Pentax pump from Water source in 2006 lasted me until 2015 with almost daily useage.
viedcht wrote:Anybody could give some advice?
I sent a half HP Goulds to repair, and after about 5mins of intermittent use it gets to about 60-70 Celsius and goes dead for a few minutes then starts back up again. Web searches saying it could be a mechanical issue, since most internals were changed it might have unnecessary friction somewhere... I was thinking electrical .
In the meantime I was pondering a piper pump to use. I had a Pentax spare but that hold up by another repairman so I have to cope. Any suggestions?
alfa wrote:viedcht wrote:Anybody could give some advice?
I sent a half HP Goulds to repair, and after about 5mins of intermittent use it gets to about 60-70 Celsius and goes dead for a few minutes then starts back up again. Web searches saying it could be a mechanical issue, since most internals were changed it might have unnecessary friction somewhere... I was thinking electrical .
In the meantime I was pondering a piper pump to use. I had a Pentax spare but that hold up by another repairman so I have to cope. Any suggestions?
The overload kicks in and causes it to cut off to prevent damage. I doubt friction could put that kinda strain on the motor, besides from listening to it you would know if it's sounding sluggish. Could be the windings got damaged and it's shorting to ground. Get an electrician to check it out possible Megger test the windings as well
viedcht wrote:Thanks, repairman coming before the weekend to take back and re-repair... I remember there was a cheap pump selling for under $1000... You know the name by chance?
Leo I believe. Other than that there is the no name lift pump that local dealers slap on a smart head or switch and pressure tank to and sell as a complete automatic pump. Smart head version sells for 7 to 8 hundred. Works ok.alfa wrote:viedcht wrote:Anybody could give some advice?
I sent a half HP Goulds to repair, and after about 5mins of intermittent use it gets to about 60-70 Celsius and goes dead for a few minutes then starts back up again. Web searches saying it could be a mechanical issue, since most internals were changed it might have unnecessary friction somewhere... I was thinking electrical .
In the meantime I was pondering a piper pump to use. I had a Pentax spare but that hold up by another repairman so I have to cope. Any suggestions?
The overload kicks in and causes it to cut off to prevent damage. I doubt friction could put that kinda strain on the motor, besides from listening to it you would know if it's sounding sluggish. Could be the windings got damaged and it's shorting to ground. Get an electrician to check it out possible Megger test the windings as well
viedcht wrote:Anybody could give some advice?
I sent a half HP Goulds to repair, and after about 5mins of intermittent use it gets to about 60-70 Celsius and goes dead for a few minutes then starts back up again. Web searches saying it could be a mechanical issue, since most internals were changed it might have unnecessary friction somewhere... I was thinking electrical .
In the meantime I was pondering a piper pump to use. I had a Pentax spare but that hold up by another repairman so I have to cope. Any suggestions?
viedcht wrote:Thanks, repairman coming before the weekend to take back and re-repair... I remember there was a cheap pump selling for under $1000... You know the name by chance?alfa wrote:viedcht wrote:Anybody could give some advice?
I sent a half HP Goulds to repair, and after about 5mins of intermittent use it gets to about 60-70 Celsius and goes dead for a few minutes then starts back up again. Web searches saying it could be a mechanical issue, since most internals were changed it might have unnecessary friction somewhere... I was thinking electrical .
In the meantime I was pondering a piper pump to use. I had a Pentax spare but that hold up by another repairman so I have to cope. Any suggestions?
The overload kicks in and causes it to cut off to prevent damage. I doubt friction could put that kinda strain on the motor, besides from listening to it you would know if it's sounding sluggish. Could be the windings got damaged and it's shorting to ground. Get an electrician to check it out possible Megger test the windings as well
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