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Covid is learning curve for all nations as the health specialist themselves knew very little about it in the earliers. Health specialist are still learning and don't know the full details.Habit7 wrote:zoom rader wrote:Jack arseHabit7 wrote:Proactivity is putting in the covid-19 protocols, that UNC initially objected to, that resulted in our low spread. Countries that received vaccines prior were part of India's initiative and handpicked by them to receive. Their diplomatic staff informed the countries of their availability and the country responded to India. Their HC here informed the other islands he was responsible for but not the one he is living in. It could be that it was the instructions he received. Nevertheless, there are multiple sources of vaccines and in the same way we managed the virus we will manage the vaccination.
I love how you call Rowley racist and then accuse him of pull the race card. Your logic is as bad as your spelling.
The UNC was the first to to bring covid-19 to attention in parliament and the red government speaker shot it down.
Shut your horse zhit and mis information
Yes and they went on to get the motion in the Senate to argue that bars should be opened because "Puncheon and lime is good for the virus."
Further on Kamla went on to say that the Caribbean doesn't have much cases because our climate is not conducive to covid-19.
Jamaica's PM just announced yesterday that their hospitals are over capacity.
Fuad Khan said we should not wear masks because the UK doesn't. The UK eventually reversed that and spawned a new variant.
Aside from the racist ads and poor candidate choices, UNC lost the 2020 elections based on their horrible covid-19 recommendations. They are not relevant.
Red government failed to acknowledge covid in the earliers.Redman wrote:What is the relevance of the UNC saying it first???
Post the edvendence that you speak off so we can be corrected and learnRedman wrote:Earliers?
We started screening late January- and flight restrictions Jan 30.
China confirmed human transmission Jan 21.
We declared it Public Health Emergency month end Jan within a day of WHO.
So what earliers are there?
And what was the failure to acknowledge is GORTT took action in Jan?
CDC began screening at airports Jan 20
again with the made up tootz.
Redman wrote:Earliers?
We started screening late January- and flight restrictions Jan 30.
China confirmed human transmission Jan 21.
We declared it Public Health Emergency month end Jan within a day of WHO.
So what earliers are there?
And what was the failure to acknowledge is GORTT took action in Jan?
CDC began screening at airports Jan 20
again with the made up tootz.
zoom rader wrote:Post the edvendence that you speak off so we can be corrected and learnRedman wrote:Earliers?
We started screening late January- and flight restrictions Jan 30.
China confirmed human transmission Jan 21.
We declared it Public Health Emergency month end Jan within a day of WHO.
So what earliers are there?
And what was the failure to acknowledge is GORTT took action in Jan?
CDC began screening at airports Jan 20
again with the made up tootz.
Red government failed to acknowledge covid in the earliers.
Please post the evidence that you speak ofRedman wrote:zoom rader wrote:Post the edvendence that you speak off so we can be corrected and learnRedman wrote:Earliers?
We started screening late January- and flight restrictions Jan 30.
China confirmed human transmission Jan 21.
We declared it Public Health Emergency month end Jan within a day of WHO.
So what earliers are there?
And what was the failure to acknowledge is GORTT took action in Jan?
CDC began screening at airports Jan 20
again with the made up tootz.
You said thatRed government failed to acknowledge covid in the earliers.
Upon what basis did you make the statement?
Even your made up tootz will stick to you when you backpedal.
RedmanRedman wrote:zoom rader wrote:Post the edvendence that you speak off so we can be corrected and learnRedman wrote:Earliers?
We started screening late January- and flight restrictions Jan 30.
China confirmed human transmission Jan 21.
We declared it Public Health Emergency month end Jan within a day of WHO.
So what earliers are there?
And what was the failure to acknowledge is GORTT took action in Jan?
CDC began screening at airports Jan 20
again with the made up tootz.
You said thatRed government failed to acknowledge covid in the earliers.
Upon what basis did you make the statement?
Even your made up tootz will stick to you when you backpedal.
elec2020 wrote:if the first requests by trinidad for vaccine donations was indeed in February 2021 when requests were being made in August 2020 then yh the government (not for the first time) messed up. i guess they believed COVAX would have pulled through and had no back up/contingency plans if it failed.
Deyalsingh: TT talking to four covid19 vaccine-makers
SEAN DOUGLAS SATURDAY 6 FEBRUARY 2021
HEALTH Minister Terrence Deyalsingh said as well as efforts to get the covid19 vaccine via the Covax facility and the African Union/African Medicines Council, TT is in direct bilateral talks with four vaccine manufacturers.
TT has already spoken to Pfizer, Moderna, Sinopharm, and will soon talk to Johnson and Johnson, the minister said.
He was replying to a listed oral question from Fyzabad MP Dr Lackram Bodoe in the House of Representatives on Friday.
Deyalsingh said TT paid US$1.477 or $10 million to Covax on September 29 as a down payment.
He said Pfizer was not initially a member of Covax but joined subsequently, on January 22.
"Bilateral discussions with the vaccine manufacturer Pfizer and the Ministry of Health began in earnest on December 22, 2020 with the intention of purchasing vaccines for use."
He said a confidentiality agreement with Pfizer stops him disclosing any details until a contract is signed.
Otherwise, he said TT will be allocated 226,000 doses of vaccine out of a Caricom allocation via the African Union/African Medicines Council.
Deyalsingh also pointed out, "We don't have a firm date yet for receiving vaccines outside of Covax. We have a firm date from PAHO for within Covax, which I have announced. They are saying from the end of February/beginning of March, we will get between 100,000 and 117,000-120,000 doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine.
"Outside of Covax ,we are having bilateral talks not only with Pfizer. We've had talks with Moderna, Sinopharm and we are also going to be having separate bilateral talks with Johnson and Johnson."
Bodoe asked about the Caricom initiative to the African Medicines Council.
Deyalsingh said within this approach, TT is now registered to receive 226,000 doses of whichever brand of vaccine is allocated under a Covax-style facility, but he did not have firm dates yet.
"We are trying to get not only the quantity but also price arrangements and so on. So we are working behind the scenes, very hard, to do all those things."
https://newsday.co.tt/2021/02/06/deyals ... ne-makers/
Please do post the edvendence on the timeline of covid for TrinidadRedman wrote:All ah dat is relevant to UNC saying something?-as usual PEAnut-you should check the Hansard BEFORE you post.
Zoombindranath-what you base your statement on?
Waiting.............zoom rader wrote:RedmanRedman wrote:zoom rader wrote:Post the edvendence that you speak off so we can be corrected and learnRedman wrote:Earliers?
We started screening late January- and flight restrictions Jan 30.
China confirmed human transmission Jan 21.
We declared it Public Health Emergency month end Jan within a day of WHO.
So what earliers are there?
And what was the failure to acknowledge is GORTT took action in Jan?
CDC began screening at airports Jan 20
again with the made up tootz.
You said thatRed government failed to acknowledge covid in the earliers.
Upon what basis did you make the statement?
Even your made up tootz will stick to you when you backpedal.
Turners are waiting for your evidence, please post so we can be corrected and learn from this .
sMASH wrote:The govt saw covid around the world, but kept borders open to ensure we had carnival.
That carnival, people from all over the world could have come and move freely.
The screening was only a temp check and if u had flu symptoms. And that was only if they actually screened u.
With most symptoms being very mild, it would be easy to pass tru and carry covid in.
The lapse border control allowed illegal entry to be relatively unchecked.
All the while before lock down while carnival was aswing , it was known that u could be asymptomatic and its highly communicable.
The relevance of not discussing it in parliament as the opposition requested was to keep ur head on the sand to allow carnival.
The relevance of kamala asking India first is to show that pnm Did not do all in their power to secure vaccines.
The end result is that we may he getting the chinese vaccine.
The problem with that is, that may have been the vaccine agenda from the start. So all before was pappy show and rigmarole
“I don’t think there was a risk prior to that time when we began testing, of Trinidad having imported cases. And as we tested, even during the Carnival season, there were groups of people that came forward to us and said they were in contact with persons from the US, from Canada, from the UK, and at the time of Carnival, there were very, very few cases in those countries.”
Parasram said there were less than 50 cases in those overseas territories before Carnival, with maybe as low as 10 in the US out of three hundred million persons, so the numbers were very low.
https://trinidadexpress.com/newsextra/c ... c80d3.html
Stop talking hogwashHabit7 wrote:sMASH wrote:The govt saw covid around the world, but kept borders open to ensure we had carnival.
That carnival, people from all over the world could have come and move freely.
The screening was only a temp check and if u had flu symptoms. And that was only if they actually screened u.
With most symptoms being very mild, it would be easy to pass tru and carry covid in.
The lapse border control allowed illegal entry to be relatively unchecked.
All the while before lock down while carnival was aswing , it was known that u could be asymptomatic and its highly communicable.
The relevance of not discussing it in parliament as the opposition requested was to keep ur head on the sand to allow carnival.
The relevance of kamala asking India first is to show that pnm Did not do all in their power to secure vaccines.
The end result is that we may he getting the chinese vaccine.
The problem with that is, that may have been the vaccine agenda from the start. So all before was pappy show and rigmarole“I don’t think there was a risk prior to that time when we began testing, of Trinidad having imported cases. And as we tested, even during the Carnival season, there were groups of people that came forward to us and said they were in contact with persons from the US, from Canada, from the UK, and at the time of Carnival, there were very, very few cases in those countries.”
Parasram said there were less than 50 cases in those overseas territories before Carnival, with maybe as low as 10 in the US out of three hundred million persons, so the numbers were very low.
https://trinidadexpress.com/newsextra/c ... c80d3.html
The Opposition discussing covid-19 in parliament would be just as inane as their discussions in the public square. Nothing they recommended was of benefit. Name one.
Even by the HC account the GoRTT was in discussions with India long before Kamla jump and write.
Redman where is the edvendence that you speak off?Redman wrote:zoom rader wrote:Post the edvendence that you speak off so we can be corrected and learnRedman wrote:Earliers?
We started screening late January- and flight restrictions Jan 30.
China confirmed human transmission Jan 21.
We declared it Public Health Emergency month end Jan within a day of WHO.
So what earliers are there?
And what was the failure to acknowledge is GORTT took action in Jan?
CDC began screening at airports Jan 20
again with the made up tootz.
You said thatRed government failed to acknowledge covid in the earliers.
Upon what basis did you make the statement?
Even your made up tootz will stick to you when you backpedal.
Habit7 wrote:elec2020 wrote:if the first requests by trinidad for vaccine donations was indeed in February 2021 when requests were being made in August 2020 then yh the government (not for the first time) messed up. i guess they believed COVAX would have pulled through and had no back up/contingency plans if it failed.Deyalsingh: TT talking to four covid19 vaccine-makers
SEAN DOUGLAS SATURDAY 6 FEBRUARY 2021
HEALTH Minister Terrence Deyalsingh said as well as efforts to get the covid19 vaccine via the Covax facility and the African Union/African Medicines Council, TT is in direct bilateral talks with four vaccine manufacturers.
TT has already spoken to Pfizer, Moderna, Sinopharm, and will soon talk to Johnson and Johnson, the minister said.
He was replying to a listed oral question from Fyzabad MP Dr Lackram Bodoe in the House of Representatives on Friday.
Deyalsingh said TT paid US$1.477 or $10 million to Covax on September 29 as a down payment.
He said Pfizer was not initially a member of Covax but joined subsequently, on January 22.
"Bilateral discussions with the vaccine manufacturer Pfizer and the Ministry of Health began in earnest on December 22, 2020 with the intention of purchasing vaccines for use."
He said a confidentiality agreement with Pfizer stops him disclosing any details until a contract is signed.
Otherwise, he said TT will be allocated 226,000 doses of vaccine out of a Caricom allocation via the African Union/African Medicines Council.
Deyalsingh also pointed out, "We don't have a firm date yet for receiving vaccines outside of Covax. We have a firm date from PAHO for within Covax, which I have announced. They are saying from the end of February/beginning of March, we will get between 100,000 and 117,000-120,000 doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine.
"Outside of Covax ,we are having bilateral talks not only with Pfizer. We've had talks with Moderna, Sinopharm and we are also going to be having separate bilateral talks with Johnson and Johnson."
Bodoe asked about the Caricom initiative to the African Medicines Council.
Deyalsingh said within this approach, TT is now registered to receive 226,000 doses of whichever brand of vaccine is allocated under a Covax-style facility, but he did not have firm dates yet.
"We are trying to get not only the quantity but also price arrangements and so on. So we are working behind the scenes, very hard, to do all those things."
https://newsday.co.tt/2021/02/06/deyals ... ne-makers/
zoom rader wrote:Please do post the edvendence on the timeline of covid for TrinidadRedman wrote:All ah dat is relevant to UNC saying something?-as usual PEAnut-you should check the Hansard BEFORE you post.
Zoombindranath-what you base your statement on?
I had family that came in for carnival and they never got screening as you said.
What a load of garage you posted , that is not edvendence as you statedRedman wrote:zoom rader wrote:Please do post the edvendence on the timeline of covid for TrinidadRedman wrote:All ah dat is relevant to UNC saying something?-as usual PEAnut-you should check the Hansard BEFORE you post.
Zoombindranath-what you base your statement on?
I had family that came in for carnival and they never got screening as you said.
As usual you make a claim without anything other than ole talk.
https://www.ttlawcourts.org/index.php/c ... nload/6890
So upon what you base that the Gortt failed to acknowledge ???
And you chain up PEAnut to say it was being ignored in Parliament- but the world and WHO only started paying attention mid January.
zoom rader wrote:Stop talking hogwash
The Opposition discussing covid-19 in parliament would have led us to have known , be aware of covid-19 and taken steps to protect us from it.
We had rampant carnival when we should have then locked the boarders. We still don't know what damages carnival did to us.
Try harder again idiot
Habit7 wrote:elec2020 wrote:if the first requests by trinidad for vaccine donations was indeed in February 2021 when requests were being made in August 2020 then yh the government (not for the first time) messed up. i guess they believed COVAX would have pulled through and had no back up/contingency plans if it failed.Deyalsingh: TT talking to four covid19 vaccine-makers
SEAN DOUGLAS SATURDAY 6 FEBRUARY 2021
HEALTH Minister Terrence Deyalsingh said as well as efforts to get the covid19 vaccine via the Covax facility and the African Union/African Medicines Council, TT is in direct bilateral talks with four vaccine manufacturers.
TT has already spoken to Pfizer, Moderna, Sinopharm, and will soon talk to Johnson and Johnson, the minister said.
He was replying to a listed oral question from Fyzabad MP Dr Lackram Bodoe in the House of Representatives on Friday.
Deyalsingh said TT paid US$1.477 or $10 million to Covax on September 29 as a down payment.
He said Pfizer was not initially a member of Covax but joined subsequently, on January 22.
"Bilateral discussions with the vaccine manufacturer Pfizer and the Ministry of Health began in earnest on December 22, 2020 with the intention of purchasing vaccines for use."
He said a confidentiality agreement with Pfizer stops him disclosing any details until a contract is signed.
Otherwise, he said TT will be allocated 226,000 doses of vaccine out of a Caricom allocation via the African Union/African Medicines Council.
Deyalsingh also pointed out, "We don't have a firm date yet for receiving vaccines outside of Covax. We have a firm date from PAHO for within Covax, which I have announced. They are saying from the end of February/beginning of March, we will get between 100,000 and 117,000-120,000 doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine.
"Outside of Covax ,we are having bilateral talks not only with Pfizer. We've had talks with Moderna, Sinopharm and we are also going to be having separate bilateral talks with Johnson and Johnson."
Bodoe asked about the Caricom initiative to the African Medicines Council.
Deyalsingh said within this approach, TT is now registered to receive 226,000 doses of whichever brand of vaccine is allocated under a Covax-style facility, but he did not have firm dates yet.
"We are trying to get not only the quantity but also price arrangements and so on. So we are working behind the scenes, very hard, to do all those things."
https://newsday.co.tt/2021/02/06/deyals ... ne-makers/
I don't give a zhit about carnival or other countries holding carnival. It is just noise and not productive. You being a a so called Christian should be the last promote carnival.Habit7 wrote:zoom rader wrote:Stop talking hogwash
The Opposition discussing covid-19 in parliament would have led us to have known , be aware of covid-19 and taken steps to protect us from it.
We had rampant carnival when we should have then locked the boarders. We still don't know what damages carnival did to us.
Try harder again idiot
So Carnival in New Orleans caused a spread that overwhelmed their hospitals
Carnival in Rio and several other Brazilian cities made Brazil one of the largest c19 countries
Carnival in TT was followed not too long after by 80 days of no local spread. (0)
If Carnival was such a super spreader event in TT, where was the spread?
And if UNC was so opposed to Carnival 2020, then why their local govt controlled municipalities held Carnival too?
Red government failed to acknowledge covid in the earliers.
Habit7 wrote:zoom rader wrote:Stop talking hogwash
The Opposition discussing covid-19 in parliament would have led us to have known , be aware of covid-19 and taken steps to protect us from it.
We had rampant carnival when we should have then locked the boarders. We still don't know what damages carnival did to us.
Try harder again idiot
So Carnival in New Orleans caused a spread that overwhelmed their hospitals
Carnival in Rio and several other Brazilian cities made Brazil one of the largest c19 countries
Carnival in TT was followed not too long after by 80 days of no local spread. (0)
If Carnival was such a super spreader event in TT, where was the spread?
And if UNC was so opposed to Carnival 2020, then why their local govt controlled municipalities held Carnival too?
That is not a Trinidad time lineRedman wrote:The Presidential declaration means that the Gortt began dealing with Covid along the same timelines as the WHO declarations and international reaction-and human transmissability.
what evidence you would like?- the international timeline is on the web-google it.
Look a screen shot-
The actions taken in January by Gortt in the press- find it yourself.
Again you took your position-Red government failed to acknowledge covid in the earliers.
Upon what did you make that statement- live up to your own evidence requirement.
bring some proof.
or just continue backpedaling on your tootz.
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