US and Russia could 'start Third World War over Syria conflict', says Turkey

[redmanjp]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/us-russia-third-world-war-syria-conflict-aleppo-turkey-deputy-prime-minister-numan-kurtulmus-a7366571.html

US and Russia could 'start Third World War over Syria conflict', says Turkey
'If this proxy war continues, let me be clear, America and Russia will come to a point of war'

Alexandra Sims Tuesday 18 October 2016 12:16 BST



The US and Russia could drive the world into a global war if the conflict in Syria is not resolved, Turkey has warned.

Tensions have become increasingly heightened between Washington and Moscow in recent weeks. Last week, the US and UK warned Russia and its ally the Syrian government that new economic sanctions could be imposed if the bombing of Syria's besieged Aleppo continues.

On Sunday, Russia condemned Washington for making “unprecedented” threats of cyber attacks following accusations by the Obama administration that Moscow had hacked computers belonging to American political organisations.

UK proposes sanctions against Russia over ‘barbaric siege’ of Aleppo
Turkish deputy prime minister Numan Kurtulmus said: "If this proxy war continues, after this, let me be clear, America and Russia will come to a point of war," the Daily Mail reports.

He suggested the Syrian conflict could be the beginning of World War Three, saying it had put the world "on the brink of the beginning of a large regional or global war".

Earlier this month a Russian newspaper warned that Russian President Vladimir Putin is playing an "astonishingly risky game" in the Syrian conflict that could lead to a Third World War.

Popular tabloid, Moskovsky Komsomolets, ran an article that suggested hostilities in Syria could spark a “direct military confrontation" between the nations of a similar scale to the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis.

[shogun]

Don't worry, president Trump will stand up to Putin.

[meccalli]

The US is forcing their hand by intervening where they shouldn't. Here's Dugin himself..Trump isn't looking for a war with Russia unlike Killary. Putin doesn't want to be one of the boys in the nwo club and Obama can't stand it.

[EFFECTIC DESIGNS]

Don't worry, president Trump will stand up to Putin.

Aah yes Turkey the country that refuses to apologize for the Armenian genocide, the country run by erdogan that your good padner the Liberal John Oliver refers to as a sack of dirty sh!t and with good reasons to mind you.

Trump won't have to stand up to Putin, he likely has business lined up with Putin once he wins the white house. Trump is going to do anything but oppose Putin. As a matter of fact, Trump has already told Putin to fix up and do what he want in Syria he has repeated this a million times.

As far as Trump is concerned, Putin can do whatever the fck he wants with the middle east. You seem to completely forget that erdogan is anti Democracy and Anti western values, he is pro sharia law and he has made this absolutely clear. The west wants less and less to do with him, as a matter of fact he purposely provoked Russia in the hope that they would start a world war 3 so its no surprise that he is warning of a world war 3.

What Trump is going to do, is kick Turkey out of Nato, and pull out of Syria and let Russia reinstate Assad. And all will be well, Putin will then invade Turkey and have his revenge or whatever it is that Putin finds to amuse himself with. The important thing to understand is that it will have nothing to do with us and once Turkey is out of Nato, erdogan can then face down Putin in a bloody land war as he so badly wants to.

[BRZ]

U S sticking their nose where it doesn't belong as usual, just remember- war for the U S is an economic thing, they get billion dollar contracts out of it, forget about the countless us army that die.

[Miktay]

U S sticking their nose where it doesn't belong as usual, just remember- war for the U S is an economic thing, they get billion dollar contracts out of it, forget about the countless us army that die.

US izan Empire. The Anglo/American Empire. Thaz what Empires do.

[Daran]

U S sticking their nose where it doesn't belong as usual, just remember- war for the U S is an economic thing, they get billion dollar contracts out of it, forget about the countless us army that die.

and Russia didn't or doesn't do otherwise?

Any empire that wishes to sustain its power and security will always do so. Right now China is attempting the same as well.

The issues arise when a foreign power influences or places a government in power who isn't backed the majority of the population.

It's funny that the DNC claims foreigners trying to influence their election when in fact the US has always routinely done that since WW2.

Anyway, that's the way the global politics works and every superpower is guilty.

[Miktay]

Justification & support 4a Nato war with the Russian Empire needs 2 come from the mainstream media.

Particularly the European mainstream media. Europe will be on the front lines of a war with Russian.

Food 4 thought. But consider the source.

Nothing iz at it seems in geopolitics.

Top German Journalist Admits Mainstream Media Is Completely Fake: "We All Lie For The CIA"

With the increasing propaganda wars, we thought a reminder of just how naive many Westerners are when it comes to their news-feed. As Arjun Walia, of GlobalResearch.ca, notes, Dr. Ulfkotte went on public television stating that he was forced to publish the works of intelligence agents under his own name, also adding that noncompliance with these orders would result in him losing his job.

I’ve been a journalist for about 25 years, and I was educated to lie, to betray, and not to tell the truth to the public.

But seeing right now within the last months how the German and American media tries to bring war to the people in Europe, to bring war to Russia — this is a point of no return and I’m going to stand up and say it is not right what I have done in the past, to manipulate people, to make propaganda against Russia, and it is not right what my colleagues do and have done in the past because they are bribed to betray the people, not only in Germany, all over Europe.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-28/top-german-journalist-admits-mainstream-media-completely-fake-we-all-lie-cia

[xtech]

So Russia wanna re-open base in Cuba

[Dizzy28]

US and Russia will never fight each other in open and direct war. No one will win if they do.
You don't enter a war to be obliterated (and in this case end the world as we know it).
Their war will continue to be via proxies.

[Miktay]

Those contemplating a hot Nato/Russian war s/keep an eye on the ultimate marker that WW3...or any significant global instability...iz imminent. Or not.

A word 2 the wise iz sufficient.

[Advent]

No one is going to start WW3 geeeez, what people should worry bout is manmade islands in the middle of the sea with ballistic missiles etc

[Miktay]

No one is going to start WW3 geeeez, what people should worry bout is manmade islands in the middle of the sea with ballistic missiles etc

No need 4 man made islands bro...both sides aready have these...

[Dizzy28]

No one is going to start WW3 geeeez, what people should worry bout is manmade islands in the middle of the sea with ballistic missiles etc

The major nuclear powers have multiple ways to deliver their nuclear arsenals. Man made islands are not or shouldn't be a worry when there are already numerous silo based, road mobile and submarine launched ICBMs capable of reaching anywhere in the world such as -
USA - Minuteman III; Range up to 13,000kms and Trident; Range 12,000kms
Russia - Topol, Satan, Yars all up to 10,000 kms and greater
France - M51; Range 10,000kms
UK - Trident II; Range 12,000kms
China - Dong Feng 5; Range up to 15,000kms
Israel - Jericho 3; Range up to 11,500kms

In addition India has the Agni V with a range of 5,000kms (brings all of Asia, parts of Europe and Africa into range) and are testing the Agni VI which would be able to strike as far as Canada and Alaska.

[desifemlove]

eh...it's those shitty arabs. let's just nuke arabia and be done with it, then the USA and Russia can be friends.

[Advent]

No one is going to start WW3 geeeez, what people should worry bout is manmade islands in the middle of the sea with ballistic missiles etc

The major nuclear powers have multiple ways to deliver their nuclear arsenals. Man made islands are not or shouldn't be a worry when there are already numerous silo based, road mobile and submarine launched ICBMs capable of reaching anywhere in the world such as -
USA - Minuteman III; Range up to 13,000kms and Trident; Range 12,000kms
Russia - Topol, Satan, Yars all up to 10,000 kms and greater
France - M51; Range 10,000kms
UK - Trident II; Range 12,000kms
China - Dong Feng 5; Range up to 15,000kms
Israel - Jericho 3; Range up to 11,500kms

In addition India has the Agni V with a range of 5,000kms (brings all of Asia, parts of Europe and Africa into range) and are testing the Agni VI which would be able to strike as far as Canada and Alaska.

Guys i was referring the what the Chinese are doing and its potential effects on transit and fishing

[Dizzy28]

No one is going to start WW3 geeeez, what people should worry bout is manmade islands in the middle of the sea with ballistic missiles etc

The major nuclear powers have multiple ways to deliver their nuclear arsenals. Man made islands are not or shouldn't be a worry when there are already numerous silo based, road mobile and submarine launched ICBMs capable of reaching anywhere in the world such as -
USA - Minuteman III; Range up to 13,000kms and Trident; Range 12,000kms
Russia - Topol, Satan, Yars all up to 10,000 kms and greater
France - M51; Range 10,000kms
UK - Trident II; Range 12,000kms
China - Dong Feng 5; Range up to 15,000kms
Israel - Jericho 3; Range up to 11,500kms

In addition India has the Agni V with a range of 5,000kms (brings all of Asia, parts of Europe and Africa into range) and are testing the Agni VI which would be able to strike as far as Canada and Alaska.

Guys i was referring the what the Chinese are doing and its potential effects on transit and fishing

Thas for the far east to worry about. Major shipping routes would not be affected by the Chinese island building and critically major oil routes would not be affected.

And look how Duterte is cozying up to the Chinese this week even though the Phillipines are one of the countries most affected by the Chinese South China Sea imperialism.

The biggest worry to world peace and or the start of WW3 is India/Pakistan and Israel/Iran.
Pakistan is no threat to India on conventional forces and as such would resort to Nuclear very quickly particularly if there is imminent movement by Indian troops onto Islamabad and Lahore. They actually moved nukes closer to the Indian border during the Kargil conflict in 1999.
Should India retaliate with nukes to any Pakistani strike the effects of just their limited nuclear war on global weather phenomenon will be enough to affect agriculture globally ( I will look for the source scenario on this and the expected effects).

Israel has 4 Dolphin class submarines with nuclear tipped Popeye Cruise missiles capable of ranges of 1,500kms. Their Samson option dictates that should the state of Israel be destroyed just like Samson they will bring down the temple (country that attacked them and in essence the world). Imagine what an Israeli nuclear strike on Mecca would do to the World politics?

Further more some US think thanks have postulated that the Israeli sub in the Mediterranean/Black Sea would strike at Moscow should Iran ever destroy Israel (based on Russia essentially building the Iranian nuclear capability) and the Russian Nuclear system would ensure that global destruction ensues.

[Rahtid]

Saw an update that they deployed.
Not sure if to trust this site tho.

http://www.voiceofshadows.com/this-is-i ... a-for-war/

[Miktay]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... Assad.html

[Rahtid]

Think it will start ww3?

[Miktay]

Only one US carrier group 'appears' in the ME region.

and then there's thiz...

Two Royal Navy destroyers have been sent to meet the Russian warships as they prepare to take part in a final assault on Aleppo.

Hopefully thiz a joint exercise.

[djaggs]

People are being fed nothing but lies by the Clinton News Network (CNN) and MSNBC and FOX .....all these American media houses are just propaganda instruments of the US govt. CNN broadcast a pile of lies about Iraq, pushed out the US govt line that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, turned out to be a lie. Fast forward to Libya.......CNN said Libyan troops were firing on citizens.............NATO bombed the sheit out of Libya....afterwards the UN found that was a lie. In fact what they found was that Libyan troops were actually trying to protect civilians. Go again now to Syria, John Kerry stands in front congress with a photo of dead children, claims that the Syrian government did this to its own people and wanted congress to approve bombing Syria. This was broadcast by CNN, this turned out to be a lie. The photographer who took the picture came forward and said he took that photo almost 10 years before in Iraq. The US provided no evidence whatsoever that Syrian forces used chemical weapons against its own people, despite having the most sophisticated satellite technology in the world. A little history lesson here........WWII was started after Hitler dressed a group of SS soldiers in Polish army uniforms and attacked a German checkpoint. He then invaded Poland and claimed that Poland attacked Germany. The US is using the same techniques and strategies of the most evil man from history. Even their military is following the blitzkrieg philosophy of Hitler. Thats how they defeated Iraq. ISIS used the same strategy to take control of vast areas of IRAQ and Syria, with US made tanks and vehicles.

[EFFECTIC DESIGNS]

^ We know CNN is garbage from a long time even from the days when they branded Michael Jackson as a child rapist in the early 90's they have proven themselves to have 0 credibility. Infact they have surpassed Fox News as a latrine network which is something hard to accomplish given the kinda dotishness we used to hear from Fox News.

Problem is a handful of people own most of these media outlets and with AT&T buying Time Warner this is something of an even bigger concern. This is as bad as Intel buying AMD there are laws to prevent this actually which shows you how bad it would be if that ever happened since intel has a state sanctioned monopoly.

AT&T was bragging how they have all the political leverage and they will do all in their power to prevent Google Fibre from being deployed. Which is why I get a good laugh when all the retards start to jump on Trump case defending these other corporations as if they have something to gain from them.

[Miktay]

Cnn? Allyuh serious?

CNN's coverage had POS in flames and hundreds dead in the 1990 coup.

[djaggs]

^ We know CNN is garbage from a long time even from the days when they branded Michael Jackson as a child rapist in the early 90's they have proven themselves to have 0 credibility. Infact they have surpassed Fox News as a latrine network which is something hard to accomplish given the kinda dotishness we used to hear from Fox News.

Problem is a handful of people own most of these media outlets and with AT&T buying Time Warner this is something of an even bigger concern. This is as bad as Intel buying AMD there are laws to prevent this actually which shows you how bad it would be if that ever happened since intel has a state sanctioned monopoly.

AT&T was bragging how they have all the political leverage and they will do all in their power to prevent Google Fibre from being deployed. Which is why I get a good laugh when all the retards start to jump on Trump case defending these other corporations as if they have something to gain from them.

Well said. AT&T will have so much political clout. Especially if the next US president has no problem taking "donations" from corporations in exchange for political favour.

[djaggs]

Incidentally, you know of course that CNN is a subsidiary of Time Warner.