PNM in Gov't(2015-2020)

[rspann]

I feel growlers have some good weed planted in that garden the way he does get on .

[zoom rader]

I feel growlers have some good weed planted in that garden the way he does get on .

He lies better than being a farmer

[The_Honourable]

So according to the article: "However, the Aruban government, through its T&T Embassy, has made it clear that only the government is allowed to purchase fuel for that country and it had not done any business with Paria this year."

Had a few pnm was attempting to say that it wasn't the aruban government that purchase the fuel but some agent in aruba. They can't give more details of this agent up to now

[sMASH]

Thy not entirely wrong, is the vantage points for this thing we mix up too.

Form tt / Paria perspective, we dealt with an agent, a middle man.
But Aruba is now saying, they don't employ those.

But, the part where Paria had no problem with the deal initially, because they accustomed to dealing with them, is not clear to me, I need to get the chronology more accurate.

Cause if u accustomed to dealing with Aruba, u would know that they don't use agents/midle men

So according to the article: "However, the Aruban government, through its T&T Embassy, has made it clear that only the government is allowed to purchase fuel for that country and it had not done any business with Paria this year."

Had a few pnm was attempting to say that it wasn't the aruban government that purchase the fuel but some agent in aruba. They can't give more details of this agent up to now

[pugboy]

But top journalist asha Javeed say she see an Aruba contract and it have clauses about ensuring fuel don’t end up in vene.

If Aruba say there was no deal and hence no contract wda she talking about?

Something not adding up, she must know something and should be called out by the rest of them so-called journalists,

[Dizzy28]

But top journalist asha Javeed say she see an Aruba contract and it have clauses about ensuring fuel don’t end up in vene.

If Aruba say there was no deal and hence no contract wda she talking about?

Something not adding up, she must know something and should be called out by the rest of them so-called journalists,

Post coital one does not think clearly.

She probably needs to do the research prior to the guts out

[zoom rader]

But top journalist asha Javeed say she see an Aruba contract and it have clauses about ensuring fuel don’t end up in vene.

If Aruba say there was no deal and hence no contract wda she talking about?

Something not adding up, she must know something and should be called out by the rest of them so-called journalists,

She works for the PNM BBC what do you expect. She a Thot

[sMASH]

But top journalist asha Javeed say she see an Aruba contract and it have clauses about ensuring fuel don’t end up in vene.

If Aruba say there was no deal and hence no contract wda she talking about?

Something not adding up, she must know something and should be called out by the rest of them so-called journalists,

From our perspective, she might have seen a contract with the rasputin guy, who was the supposed agent fur Aruba.

It nay not he entirely non existent, but might just be fraudulent.

[zoom rader]

But top journalist asha Javeed say she see an Aruba contract and it have clauses about ensuring fuel don’t end up in vene.

If Aruba say there was no deal and hence no contract wda she talking about?

Something not adding up, she must know something and should be called out by the rest of them so-called journalists,

From our perspective, she might have seen a contract with the rasputin guy, who was the supposed agent fur Aruba.

It nay not he entirely non existent, but might just be fraudulent.

Why did she not published it if if existed

[toyolink]

The T&T government has been resisting the USA determination to exert pressure on the Venezuelan govt to regularize the process for election of a legitimate administration which conforms with its norms.
Our circumstances in the ongoing battle between these two players over the last 5 years with the efforts to enter into govt to govt energy agreements with Venezuela whilst being critical of the USA ability to instruct enforcement of sanctions, has put us in very dangerous place.
T&T would very well be called upon by the present US administration to 'pick a side' and given the attitude of the USA in the most recent past trying to sell ole talk and diplomatic hyperbole just is not going to save us from consequences.
The fact remains that the USA has long been the most significant trade, investment, social and security partner T&T has had and if this relationship is soured the costs we would all bear could put our chance of economic recovery in the realm of near impossibility.
When the call comes from the real power leaders of the USA to our PM, I sincerely hope he has straight correct answers.
There are quite a few parallels here with the FIFA battle and our local TTFA.

[The_Honourable]

But top journalist asha Javeed say she see an Aruba contract and it have clauses about ensuring fuel don’t end up in vene.

If Aruba say there was no deal and hence no contract wda she talking about?

Something not adding up, she must know something and should be called out by the rest of them so-called journalists,

The original contract didn't have the sanctions clause.

The Aldan ship done full up with fuel and left on its way to "St Eustatius". Contract was completed but when the mark start to buss, Paria run and amended the contract to include the clause and the change in destination to "Aruba". Is that amended contract Asha Javeed allegedly saw. If the contract is released to the public, it would show the amendments weeks later exposing Paria not doing their due diligence initially. What make it worse is that even in the amended version, Paria didn't do their due diligence to realize that only the Aruba government is allowed to purchase fuel for the country. No private enterprise can do so.

If the mark didn't buss, the original contract would have stayed or might have been amended quietly.

[MDtuner70]

Since 9/11 there are even more ppl paid to monitor key words.

The wikileaks revealed lots.

I was stunned to see the Trinidad embassy write up on Paula Gopee Scoon during her time as Min of Foreign Affairs. They had facts down to what time she usually messages her daughter living in the US.
And well it included that she was a US friendly person.

https://search.wikileaks.org/plusd/cabl ... 117_a.html

Wow this heavy. One setta algorithms they running lol

[zoom rader]

Since 9/11 there are even more ppl paid to monitor key words.

The wikileaks revealed lots.

I was stunned to see the Trinidad embassy write up on Paula Gopee Scoon during her time as Min of Foreign Affairs. They had facts down to what time she usually messages her daughter living in the US.
And well it included that she was a US friendly person.

https://search.wikileaks.org/plusd/cabl ... 117_a.html

Wow this heavy. One setta algorithms they running lol

Yeah with lots of visas revoked or not granted.

PNM ppl feel the US does not know what they up to.

Bad talk the US nah

[hydroep]

Forgive him nuh, he young and inexperienced...

JW put out of Senate over ringing phone
Sean Douglas




SOCA star turned politician, Government Senator Jason “JW” Williams was asked to leave the Senate after his smart phone went off.

Williams, who is the PNM candidate for the key marginal seat of Barataria/San Juan, found himself temporarily leaving the chamber during his second sitting since replacing of former public utilities minister Robert Le Hunte.

During the period of urgent questions, Senate President Christine Kangaloo rose in annoyance to complain of a noise from a smartphone.

“I am hearing someone’s cellphone. Can you all not give me a gift for one day, please, and just not let a cellphone go off? Just...That’s a gift to me.

“Can the member, the senator whose cellphone it is, please leave the chamber. Please leave the chamber. You can return in ten minutes time.”

Williams, who jointly hit soca fame with his 2010 hit, Palance, calmly rose and left the chamber.

https://newsday.co.tt/2020/05/21/jw-put-out-of-senate-over-ringing-phone/

[Cantmis]

Ok ok everything good now !

https://www.looptt.com/content/pnm-wome ... -integrity

[zoom rader]

Forgive him nuh, he young and inexperienced...

JW put out of Senate over ringing phone
Sean Douglas




SOCA star turned politician, Government Senator Jason “JW” Williams was asked to leave the Senate after his smart phone went off.

Williams, who is the PNM candidate for the key marginal seat of Barataria/San Juan, found himself temporarily leaving the chamber during his second sitting since replacing of former public utilities minister Robert Le Hunte.

During the period of urgent questions, Senate President Christine Kangaloo rose in annoyance to complain of a noise from a smartphone.

“I am hearing someone’s cellphone. Can you all not give me a gift for one day, please, and just not let a cellphone go off? Just...That’s a gift to me.

“Can the member, the senator whose cellphone it is, please leave the chamber. Please leave the chamber. You can return in ten minutes time.”

Williams, who jointly hit soca fame with his 2010 hit, Palance, calmly rose and left the chamber.

https://newsday.co.tt/2020/05/21/jw-put-out-of-senate-over-ringing-phone/

Typical PNM ghetto behaviour

[rspann]

Stuart Young was cleared today of any wrongdoing .































By the PNM womens league .

[pugboy]

somebody photoshop some cuffs nah

[Dizzy28]

The "Allyuh Wicked" crew

Stuart Young was cleared today of any wrongdoing .































By the PNM womens league .

[zoom rader]

Stuart Young was cleared today of any wrongdoing .































By the PNM womens league .

That's like telling a hoe she a virgin

[shake d livin wake d dead]

[eliteauto]

Is St Joseph still a marginal? UNC has an interesting choice for there. Will wait till announcements are made

UNC Candidate for St Joseph Lieutenant Colonel Ahloy Hunt,he is Trinidad Generation Unlimited (TGU) Security Team Leader having joined on 1st September 2019. He has over 30 years experience in security at the highest levels in national security and the Trinidad and Tobago Regiment (TTR). His knowledge in defence and security is extensive having developed the operation divisions of the Trinidad and Tobago Special Anti-crime Unit (SAUTT), Strategic Services Agency (SSA), completed the redesign and construction of the National Operation Centre (NOC) command center and reconstituted the Second Infantry Battalion of TTR.

https://www.facebook.com/marisa.v.ramlo ... 8843014179

[Gladiator]

Stuart Young was cleared today of any wrongdoing .































By the PNM womens league .

That's like telling a hoe she a virgin

or like telling Donna Cox that her hair is real...

[zoom rader]

:?:

Who this Thot?

[maj. tom]

Ahloy Hunt going up against Minister of Health Terrence Deyalsingh, which is a sure win for the PNM. Especially after handling the Covid response for the country.

[shake d livin wake d dead]

Ahloy Hunt going up against Minister of Health Terrence Deyalsingh, which is a sure win for the PNM. Especially after handling the Covid response for the country.

This man is not a people's person. Never liked in the TTR....good lord unc

[pugboy]

A sautt employee too, from the reshmi era

Ahloy Hunt going up against Minister of Health Terrence Deyalsingh, which is a sure win for the PNM. Especially after handling the Covid response for the country.

This man is not a people's person. Never liked in the TTR....good lord unc

[Gladiator]

Ahloy Hunt going up against Minister of Health Terrence Deyalsingh, which is a sure win for the PNM. Especially after handling the Covid response for the country.

They don't realize yet that trinis don't vote for competence, integrity or moral standards ...but they have a better chance with a broke calypsonian (Gypsy), an actual performing clown (JW), a local comedian (Ian Alleyne) or even a "community leader"

[zoom rader]

Ahloy Hunt going up against Minister of Health Terrence Deyalsingh, which is a sure win for the PNM. Especially after handling the Covid response for the country.

This man is not a people's person. Never liked in the TTR....good lord unc

Senior army personnel are not supposed to be liked that's why it's call the regiment.

It's PNM seat cause they not going to vote for law and order.

[hydroep]

Paria's amended contract with ES Euro Shipping (i.e. the one which they sent after the mark buss and includes the "sanction clause") may be invalid...

Aruba Govt: Paria fuel shipment never reached our shores
Renuka Singh

The MT Aldan’s AIS tracking system detailed its path up to just off the coast of Venezuela before it disappeared on April 22. The vessel’s tracking system then disabled and its tracking system has come online since.

The MT Aldan’s AIS tracking system detailed its path up to just off the coast of Venezuela before it disappeared on April 22. The vessel’s tracking system then disabled and its tracking system has come online since.

Fresh information from the Aruban government is raising new questions about where the 150,000 barrels of fuel sold by Paria Fuel Trading to ES Euro Shipping ended up.

According to the Kingdom of the Netherlands’ embassy here in T&T, the tanker MT Aldan never entered Aruban waters with its fuel cargo.

“Regarding the chemical tanker MT Aldan, the harbour master informed the Aruban government that he never received a pre-arrival questionnaire from any local agent, requesting entering of the territorial waters of Aruba for anchoring and/or ship-to-ship operation,” the embassy said.

The tanker Aldan collected fuel in T&T on April 21 and was initially bound for St Eustatius but the ship then changed destination ports without informing Paria.

After the matter was raised in the public domain, Paria contacted ES Euro Shipping and it was confirmed the tanker did not go to St Eustatius but was in Aruba.

Although Paria has not responded to questions on this matter since last week, on Monday the company put out a full-page advertisement detailing the timeline of the sale.

According to that timeline, the ship left T&T on April 21 and after the matter was raised in the public domain locally by April 23, Paria then contacted ES Euro Shipping and was told the fuel’s destination was Aruba and was provided with a redacted sales contract with an Aruban buyer. Paria, in turn, amended its contract with the new destination, along with the appropriate clause preventing resale to a sanctioned country.

However, the Aruban government is now saying that is information is incorrect. Through the T&T embassy, it said all vessels anchoring in Aruban waters must contact a local agent three days before landing.

“Vessels expressing the need to anchor in the territorial waters of Aruba or enter a port or perform STS-operation, must as a rule appoint a local agent and all pre-arrival information must be sent 72 hours prior entering the territorial waters of Aruba,” the Embassy said, noting the Aldan did no such thing.

The Aruban government also said it does not know where the tanker went.

“The MT Aldan was not seen on Automatic Identification System within the territorial waters and/or the economic zone of Aruba,” it said.

The MT Aldan was docked in the Venezuelan port of Amuay on March 13. That was its last port of call before going to Pointe-a-Pierre to collect it fuel load from Paria on April 19. The ship remained docked at Pointe-a-Pierre until April 21 and left on April 22 but had been offline until yesterday, where the ship’s AIS tracker put it near the Aruban maritime border. The ship and its 150,000 barrels of fuel thus went missing for 29 days.

However, the ship’s maritime tracking details still lists its last port call as Pointe-a-Pierre on April 21 and without the AIS tracking information in between T&T and Aruba, it is almost impossible to tell where it was for the last four weeks.

Paria Fuel Trading chairman Newman George and general manager Mushtaq Mohammed have not responded to calls or texts about any of these issues.

Paria confirmed it saw a redacted bill of sale from a local Aruban buyer but did not say who the buyer was or the date of that redacted bill of sale.

Guardian Media yesterday asked Mohammed if the buyer breached the sale contract and had produced a redacted bill of sale that was false, what action could be taken against the buyer. He did not respond.

In its advertisement, Paria’s said it only amended the contract with ES Euro Shipping to include a sanction clause after it became public knowledge on April 23 that the ship did not sail to St Eustatius but went to Aruba.

However, one lawyer who worked in Petrotrin’s legal department and dealt with its sales contracts told Guardian Media yesterday that an email cannot be used to update an existing contract unless there was already a provision in the original contract for emails to be sufficient.

“And I cannot see that happening,” the lawyer said.

An agreement for sale conditions via email that is not attached and signed off on in an existing contract is not binding, the lawyer said.

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/aruba-govt-paria-fuel-shipment-never-reached-our-shores-6.2.1121321.7438bf5337