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Pnm ppl would not know of him and they don't really care.rspann wrote:Winston Mahabir was a good one ?
Skanky wrote:First ever in the history of Trinidad....a PNM minister with integrity.
zoom rader wrote:Pnm ppl would not know of him and they don't really care.rspann wrote:Winston Mahabir was a good one ?
Did Dr. Eric Williams brand all Indians “a hostile and recalcitrant minority”? And, why did he make such a statement?
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Excerpt from Dr. Winston Mahabir
“When the PNM lost the Federal Election in 1958, Eric Williams looked no futher than the Indians for a scapegoat. In a most unfortunate speech he branded them as ‘a hostile and recalcitrant minority.’
“My wife and I arrived late at Woodford Square on the evening of that speech, while he was in the middle of his diatribe. I got an unusually subdued round of applause as I reached the platform to hear Eric Williams reveal something to the effect that he was not speaking about Indians like myself.
“It emerged that there were good Indians like myself and bad Indians like those who voted against the PNM. The speech and the experience were traumatic events in my life. I made my reactions abundantly clear to him that very evening. From that night onwards I never realy felt comfortable with Eric Williams. I felt USED, COMPROMISED, DECIEVED.” (Winston Mahabir, speech at University of California October 16, 1965).
http://www.drmorganjob.com/article_text ... cle_key=66
'Silver-tongue' Winston Mahabir
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Sun Sep 04 2011
Michael Delblond
To those who do not know or may have forgotten, Dr Winston Mahabir was one of three people that Dr Eric Williams invited to his home, on being dismissed from the Caribbean Commission, to "discuss his future and the way forward." Winston Mahabir was also one of three Trinidad island scholars being marketed on the PNM platform as high-quality candidates for the coming general election. Besides this, Williams had wooed Winston as the "Indo-Trini poster boy" of stature to boost the "inter-racial solidarity" image that was one of the party's major platform pranks.
Dr Mahabir was also a dynamic orator whose nickname (which he loved) was "Silver-tongue." One recalls him claiming that the political fare being served from the PNM platform was "intellectual chicken and champagne." However, the taunt coming from some sections of the community he was intended to appeal to was the cryptic "right man, wrong party." However, after an "exciting experience" in PNM's first Cabinet, he quietly, some say mysteriously, "left politics to further my studies in sociology and psychiatry partly with a view of discovering why I had entered politics in the first place. And partly, too, "because I was intent on analysing-from a distance and away from the immediate zone of his mesmeric presence-the nature of Eric Williams."
In Dr Mahabir's In and Out of Politics (political biography), he suggests that Eric Williams has been the subject of widespread deification and vilification. He further suggests that Williams's apostles have a duty to mortalise him, to write about the man they knew, even if they themselves are destined to be regarded by posterity as noteless blots on a remembered name. Williams himself seemed to think that he was "a bridge over troubled waters." As we recall, when Williams passed on he was sent off in a blaze of glory, like a fallen Titan, whereas many a political stalwart who has made a sizeable contribution has disappeared, like a pebble in a pond, "unwept, unhonoured and unsung," and in some cases barely unhung.
Following his own advice, Dr Mahabir tells us that Dr Williams-whom he describes as "a friend and colleague"-has been the least understood leader in Caribbean politics for more than 20 years. He is a durable amalgam of energy and enigma. Wrote Mahabir, "I have no hesitation in admitting that he has constituted a major influence in my adult life. His brilliance inspired me when I was a university student, his charismatic appeal fascinated me in his campaign for power; his imbalance perturbed me after his achievement of power, and I felt insecure in the shifting sands of his political attitudes."Interestingly, Winston Mahabir acknowledged that he had only one major intellectual godfather whom he loved and hated with equal passion through many years and that man was Eric Williams, whom he first met in Canada.
I recall Michael Manley saying that he was an internationalist or integrationist by choice but a Jamaican by accident. Winston Mahabir averred that it was at McGill that he established his identity as a West Indian as distinct from a Trinidadian, and even more distinct from a Trinidadian Indian. For the record, he found little in common with the Indian students from India. Mahabir admitted that he read Williams's Capitalism and Slavery avidly and with critical respect and recognised, "Here for the first time was a top West Indian scholar taking as his theme the history of the West Indies. Here was a black man concealing the dagger of his raw rage beneath a cloak of selective research directed against the white man's outrageous version of history."
Winston Mahabir treasured Williams's friendship and claimed that Williams's three best friends in South were himself, Dr Hasley McShine and Dr Mosaheb. They satisfied his "inward hunger" to the best of their ability and whenever he travelled abroad, he wrote them jointly, which, Dr Mahabir claimed, could amount to a treasury of letters for a generation of would-be biographers and aspiring PhDs. As I heretofore mentioned, Winston Mahabir was to fill the absence of an Indian of his stature to lend some semblance of genuine multiracial solidarity, one of the most loudly proclaimed precepts of the PNM. Cometh the moment, cometh the man. According to Winston, the time was ripe for such a man. Despite his personal faults and personality aberrations, he soon drove order into chaos, gave guidance and direction to vague impulses, synthesised the secret longings for lesser men, and finally brought a tremendous party organisation into the 1956 election campaign, the exhilaration of which its participants can never forget.
To cut a long story short, Dr Mahabir had a rude awakening and was shaken to the core when, PNM having lost the Federal election and with Williams's public political enemy number one, Berti Gomes, getting into the Federal Parliament, Williams literally went berserk at Woodford Square and launched a strident unbecoming attack on the Indo-Trinidadian community, thereby embarrassing the Indo-Trinis on his platform with his "hostile and recalcitrant" aspersions, and rendering redundant any further political usefulness of the likes of Winston Mahabir. Dr Mahabir removed himself from further fallout, but, like Trinidad itself, continued to hope that Williams's essential greatness would prevail over his manifest weaknesses.
THOUGHTS
• I recall Michael Manley saying that he was an internationalist or integrationist by choice but a Jamaican by accident.
• Winston Mahabir averred that it was at McGill that he established his identity as a West Indian as distinct from a Trinidadian, and even more distinct from a Trinidadian Indian.
• For the record, he found little in common with the Indian students from India.
http://www.guardian.co.tt/article-6.2.449935.cae1c93697
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maj. tom wrote:zoom rader wrote:Pnm ppl would not know of him and they don't really care.rspann wrote:Winston Mahabir was a good one ?
I didn't know, so I looked him up. Again, i have discovered what a nasty lie Eric Williams was. So we all had to be brainwashed by Republic Reader in Primary School that he was the greatest man that ever lived in Trinidad right. And then never taught any of the reality of him in High School or UWI Caribbean Studies.Did Dr. Eric Williams brand all Indians “a hostile and recalcitrant minority”? And, why did he make such a statement?
***
Excerpt from Dr. Winston Mahabir
“When the PNM lost the Federal Election in 1958, Eric Williams looked no futher than the Indians for a scapegoat. In a most unfortunate speech he branded them as ‘a hostile and recalcitrant minority.’
“My wife and I arrived late at Woodford Square on the evening of that speech, while he was in the middle of his diatribe. I got an unusually subdued round of applause as I reached the platform to hear Eric Williams reveal something to the effect that he was not speaking about Indians like myself.
“It emerged that there were good Indians like myself and bad Indians like those who voted against the PNM. The speech and the experience were traumatic events in my life. I made my reactions abundantly clear to him that very evening. From that night onwards I never realy felt comfortable with Eric Williams. I felt USED, COMPROMISED, DECIEVED.” (Winston Mahabir, speech at University of California October 16, 1965).
http://www.drmorganjob.com/article_text ... cle_key=66'Silver-tongue' Winston Mahabir
by
Sun Sep 04 2011
Michael Delblond
To those who do not know or may have forgotten, Dr Winston Mahabir was one of three people that Dr Eric Williams invited to his home, on being dismissed from the Caribbean Commission, to "discuss his future and the way forward." Winston Mahabir was also one of three Trinidad island scholars being marketed on the PNM platform as high-quality candidates for the coming general election. Besides this, Williams had wooed Winston as the "Indo-Trini poster boy" of stature to boost the "inter-racial solidarity" image that was one of the party's major platform pranks.
Dr Mahabir was also a dynamic orator whose nickname (which he loved) was "Silver-tongue." One recalls him claiming that the political fare being served from the PNM platform was "intellectual chicken and champagne." However, the taunt coming from some sections of the community he was intended to appeal to was the cryptic "right man, wrong party." However, after an "exciting experience" in PNM's first Cabinet, he quietly, some say mysteriously, "left politics to further my studies in sociology and psychiatry partly with a view of discovering why I had entered politics in the first place. And partly, too, "because I was intent on analysing-from a distance and away from the immediate zone of his mesmeric presence-the nature of Eric Williams."
In Dr Mahabir's In and Out of Politics (political biography), he suggests that Eric Williams has been the subject of widespread deification and vilification. He further suggests that Williams's apostles have a duty to mortalise him, to write about the man they knew, even if they themselves are destined to be regarded by posterity as noteless blots on a remembered name. Williams himself seemed to think that he was "a bridge over troubled waters." As we recall, when Williams passed on he was sent off in a blaze of glory, like a fallen Titan, whereas many a political stalwart who has made a sizeable contribution has disappeared, like a pebble in a pond, "unwept, unhonoured and unsung," and in some cases barely unhung.
Following his own advice, Dr Mahabir tells us that Dr Williams-whom he describes as "a friend and colleague"-has been the least understood leader in Caribbean politics for more than 20 years. He is a durable amalgam of energy and enigma. Wrote Mahabir, "I have no hesitation in admitting that he has constituted a major influence in my adult life. His brilliance inspired me when I was a university student, his charismatic appeal fascinated me in his campaign for power; his imbalance perturbed me after his achievement of power, and I felt insecure in the shifting sands of his political attitudes."Interestingly, Winston Mahabir acknowledged that he had only one major intellectual godfather whom he loved and hated with equal passion through many years and that man was Eric Williams, whom he first met in Canada.
I recall Michael Manley saying that he was an internationalist or integrationist by choice but a Jamaican by accident. Winston Mahabir averred that it was at McGill that he established his identity as a West Indian as distinct from a Trinidadian, and even more distinct from a Trinidadian Indian. For the record, he found little in common with the Indian students from India. Mahabir admitted that he read Williams's Capitalism and Slavery avidly and with critical respect and recognised, "Here for the first time was a top West Indian scholar taking as his theme the history of the West Indies. Here was a black man concealing the dagger of his raw rage beneath a cloak of selective research directed against the white man's outrageous version of history."
Winston Mahabir treasured Williams's friendship and claimed that Williams's three best friends in South were himself, Dr Hasley McShine and Dr Mosaheb. They satisfied his "inward hunger" to the best of their ability and whenever he travelled abroad, he wrote them jointly, which, Dr Mahabir claimed, could amount to a treasury of letters for a generation of would-be biographers and aspiring PhDs. As I heretofore mentioned, Winston Mahabir was to fill the absence of an Indian of his stature to lend some semblance of genuine multiracial solidarity, one of the most loudly proclaimed precepts of the PNM. Cometh the moment, cometh the man. According to Winston, the time was ripe for such a man. Despite his personal faults and personality aberrations, he soon drove order into chaos, gave guidance and direction to vague impulses, synthesised the secret longings for lesser men, and finally brought a tremendous party organisation into the 1956 election campaign, the exhilaration of which its participants can never forget.
To cut a long story short, Dr Mahabir had a rude awakening and was shaken to the core when, PNM having lost the Federal election and with Williams's public political enemy number one, Berti Gomes, getting into the Federal Parliament, Williams literally went berserk at Woodford Square and launched a strident unbecoming attack on the Indo-Trinidadian community, thereby embarrassing the Indo-Trinis on his platform with his "hostile and recalcitrant" aspersions, and rendering redundant any further political usefulness of the likes of Winston Mahabir. Dr Mahabir removed himself from further fallout, but, like Trinidad itself, continued to hope that Williams's essential greatness would prevail over his manifest weaknesses.
THOUGHTS
• I recall Michael Manley saying that he was an internationalist or integrationist by choice but a Jamaican by accident.
• Winston Mahabir averred that it was at McGill that he established his identity as a West Indian as distinct from a Trinidadian, and even more distinct from a Trinidadian Indian.
• For the record, he found little in common with the Indian students from India.
http://www.guardian.co.tt/article-6.2.449935.cae1c93697
paid_influencer wrote:Lewwe be real. Le Hunte (on the economy recovery committee) ran into the wrong side of Rowley and got fired.
And I don't know how many will agree with me, but Rowley has been especially unhinged these past few days because of the PDVSA/Drug trafficking allegations. He wring the life out of a water bottle when asked about it at the last conference.
viedcht wrote:So what Stewie have so dat de PM cyah just fyah he lil pale arse?
I was too lazy to post it and fed up spoon feed ingorant PNM pplrspann wrote:Maj Tom , that's the reason I asked zoomrader , for him to hit us the details . Thank you for your research and post . Btw . Michael Delblond was my A level Physics teacher , and my close friend , so I got this info years ago from him.
Wait till the US revoke their US visas .shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Faris, stuart, colm, rohan and franklin could NEVER be touched
rspann wrote:So you saying PNM is not a black party ?
Skanky wrote:First ever in the history of Trinidad....a PNM minister with integrity.
Phone Surgeon wrote:idk na , anything i see phillip alexander post up i does believe as much as a random madman in independence square.
just 3 weeks ago he insisting how a private jet flew in derek chin,
while it was a plane that came for us embassy workers
rspann wrote:@ MD tuner , you didn't see recently when Growlers used the recalcitrant minority talk in relation to the people who were opening their businesses after they were told to close , and I said he had a reason for using those words ? I think it was Reggie Dumas who called him out on using that phrase .
The phrase is loaded with cultural and historical baggage ( to me it ranks with the Calcutta ship statement ) and using it will invoke certain feelings in those who know of it ( whether rightfully or wrongfully so . The only thing that was redemptive was the choice of the day that he used it . I don't know if it was coincidence or karma . It was April fool's day .
The_Honourable wrote:Saw this comment on fb:
Le Hunte is a banker - he understands that the US Treasury Dept doesn't want to hear anything about a "clause".
The only thing that matters is whether US banks were used to facilitate this transaction.
https://www.facebook.com/darryn.boodan/ ... 3637000023
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