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[Les Bain]

One person best summed up the social media blackout as such:

Social media company = bakery
Alt-right community = gay couple ordering a custom cake.

Right wingers and religious folks were totally on the side of the bakery that refused the gay couple buy have a hard time transposing the fact of owner's discretion to social media companies. Would you then find fault with tuner mods for banning ED for posting his personal porn stash here on General Election night?

While understanding that you may be trying to show that these are justifiably the same things, they are not. You have given a false equivalence here.

There is wide ranging confusion on this issue. Social media doesn't have an editor, proof reader or typesetter that is between the original poster and the published media. With none of those, the responsibility of publishing lies solely with the original poster.

Social media does have a censorship function, and it is that censorship that is currently in the spotlight. The equitable application of censorship by social media platforms will very likely see new legislation passed.

In the opinion for case that you cite, Justice Kennedy stated that the decision was not far reaching and was specific to the question of whether the State can create laws that infringe upon religious freedoms. He went on to write:

"The court’s precedents make clear that the baker, in his capacity as the owner of a business serving the public, might have his right to the free exercise of religion limited by generally applicable laws.”

“Still, the delicate question of when the free exercise of his religion must yield to an otherwise valid exercise of state power needed to be determined in an adjudication in which religious hostility on the part of the state itself would not be a factor in the balance the state sought to reach. That requirement, however, was not met here.”

Since you put yourself in the position of the guy who rolls up to a debate and says "Actually...." what would be the appropriate way to treat with the F Your Feelings crowd demanding their right to internet free speech?

Actually, I didn't put myself in any position. But if I offended you, I offer my apologies. The reasons for many decisions that are handed down in the opinions are lost to many. Few are willing to even read the fact checks and continue to peddle the convenient false narrative.

Regarding free speech, if your country protects free speech, buy a domain name and a server. Plug it in and there is zero oversight so long as it doesn't breach local laws - of course it's your money and time and you don't have a ready made audience from billions of dollars of investment.

That is what the so-called dark web is.

Take your pick.

Buddy I am an honest layman. I don't do internet debates; just asked for an answer, no offense implied.
Thanks.

[adnj]

One person best summed up the social media blackout as such:

Social media company = bakery
Alt-right community = gay couple ordering a custom cake.

Right wingers and religious folks were totally on the side of the bakery that refused the gay couple buy have a hard time transposing the fact of owner's discretion to social media companies. Would you then find fault with tuner mods for banning ED for posting his personal porn stash here on General Election night?

While understanding that you may be trying to show that these are justifiably the same things, they are not. You have given a false equivalence here.

There is wide ranging confusion on this issue. Social media doesn't have an editor, proof reader or typesetter that is between the original poster and the published media. With none of those, the responsibility of publishing lies solely with the original poster.

Social media does have a censorship function, and it is that censorship that is currently in the spotlight. The equitable application of censorship by social media platforms will very likely see new legislation passed.

In the opinion for case that you cite, Justice Kennedy stated that the decision was not far reaching and was specific to the question of whether the State can create laws that infringe upon religious freedoms. He went on to write:

"The court’s precedents make clear that the baker, in his capacity as the owner of a business serving the public, might have his right to the free exercise of religion limited by generally applicable laws.”

“Still, the delicate question of when the free exercise of his religion must yield to an otherwise valid exercise of state power needed to be determined in an adjudication in which religious hostility on the part of the state itself would not be a factor in the balance the state sought to reach. That requirement, however, was not met here.”

Since you put yourself in the position of the guy who rolls up to a debate and says "Actually...." what would be the appropriate way to treat with the F Your Feelings crowd demanding their right to internet free speech?

Actually, I didn't put myself in any position. But if I offended you, I offer my apologies. The reasons for many decisions that are handed down in the opinions are lost to many. Few are willing to even read the fact checks and continue to peddle the convenient false narrative.

Regarding free speech, if your country protects free speech, buy a domain name and a server. Plug it in and there is zero oversight so long as it doesn't breach local laws - of course it's your money and time and you don't have a ready made audience from billions of dollars of investment.

That is what the so-called dark web is.

Take your pick.

Buddy I am an honest layman. I don't do internet debates; just asked for an answer, no offense implied.
Thanks.

Then I certainly do owe you an apology.

[Les Bain]

One person best summed up the social media blackout as such:

Social media company = bakery
Alt-right community = gay couple ordering a custom cake.

Right wingers and religious folks were totally on the side of the bakery that refused the gay couple buy have a hard time transposing the fact of owner's discretion to social media companies. Would you then find fault with tuner mods for banning ED for posting his personal porn stash here on General Election night?

While understanding that you may be trying to show that these are justifiably the same things, they are not. You have given a false equivalence here.

There is wide ranging confusion on this issue. Social media doesn't have an editor, proof reader or typesetter that is between the original poster and the published media. With none of those, the responsibility of publishing lies solely with the original poster.

Social media does have a censorship function, and it is that censorship that is currently in the spotlight. The equitable application of censorship by social media platforms will very likely see new legislation passed.

In the opinion for case that you cite, Justice Kennedy stated that the decision was not far reaching and was specific to the question of whether the State can create laws that infringe upon religious freedoms. He went on to write:

"The court’s precedents make clear that the baker, in his capacity as the owner of a business serving the public, might have his right to the free exercise of religion limited by generally applicable laws.”

“Still, the delicate question of when the free exercise of his religion must yield to an otherwise valid exercise of state power needed to be determined in an adjudication in which religious hostility on the part of the state itself would not be a factor in the balance the state sought to reach. That requirement, however, was not met here.”

Since you put yourself in the position of the guy who rolls up to a debate and says "Actually...." what would be the appropriate way to treat with the F Your Feelings crowd demanding their right to internet free speech?

Actually, I didn't put myself in any position. But if I offended you, I offer my apologies. The reasons for many decisions that are handed down in the opinions are lost to many. Few are willing to even read the fact checks and continue to peddle the convenient false narrative.

Regarding free speech, if your country protects free speech, buy a domain name and a server. Plug it in and there is zero oversight so long as it doesn't breach local laws - of course it's your money and time and you don't have a ready made audience from billions of dollars of investment.

That is what the so-called dark web is.

Take your pick.

Buddy I am an honest layman. I don't do internet debates; just asked for an answer, no offense implied.
Thanks.

Then I certainly do owe you an apology.

Thanks bro.

[shake d livin wake d dead]

House of reps has reached enough votes to impeach donald

[K74T]

[VexXx Dogg]

House of reps has reached enough votes to impeach donald

Excellent

[MaxPower]

My prayers are with Commander Trump and team in this challenging time.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Video Message from President Donald J. Trump 1/13/21



What happened to "you'll never take back our country with weakness, you have to show strength", "stand up and fight" and "trial by combat"? https://youtu.be/PPwIYbmZimI?t=159

[K74T]

Tronald Dump

[MaxPower]

Tronald Dump

President Donald Trump bro

[The_Honourable]

McConnell reconvening the senate on the 19th which means Trump's removal between now and the 20th is not going to happen.

[redmanjp]

McConnell reconvening the senate on the 19th which means Trump's removal between now and the 20th is not going to happen.

at that point it's more about preventing him from running for office again

[Les Bain]

McConnell is the smart sort of conniving politician that trump wishes he could be. Probably had his plan mapped out the second trump took the Republican platform.

The vandalization of his asian doll's love nest by trump supporters was probably Mitch's final straw.

[matr1x]

Proving he incited is going to be lot harder than they think

[Dohplaydat]

Proving he incited is going to be lot harder than they think

I would agree.

McConnell reconvening the senate on the 19th which means Trump's removal between now and the 20th is not going to happen.

at that point it's more about preventing him from running for office again

Well the GOP has to realize that their party of respectable candidates like McCain and Romney is a thing of the past and is a losing strategy, much akin to UNC continuing with Kamla and her crew.

The GOP is very much in danger of having Trump or another Trump-like leader win the nomination for president.

The Republicans have flirted, nurtured and normalized the extreme right for too long to drop that massive support base now. They have created a monster and now they need to figure out how to handle it.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

[Habit7]

Hypocritical Democrats
JUDY KUBLALSINGH Jan 13, 2021 Updated 2 hrs ago
3 min to read

The United States has enjoyed a reasonably stable political system for decades. The system is stable because a democracy responds to and thrives under democratic institutions that work. Like the institution of voting.

Voting is like is a pressure relief valve. When people believe they can vote fairly and that their votes count, they don’t generally storm the Bastille.

On the other hand, if people believe their democracy is a hoax—voting a mere charade under a system that was rigged by a small group of powerful, corrupt players, then what we are seeing happening now in the US can happen anywhere.

For months Americans were told by Democrats and the media mob it was okay to conceptualise violence in the name of ideology; to burn Wendy’s, loot Macy’s and Target; empty grocery stores and shops; to incinerate precinct houses, federal courthouses and churches; to set up “the Chaz” and other “Republics” spanning entire blocks, denying citizens access to their own businesses; to burn and loot entire city blocks throughout the country; to bust up the faces of innocent bystanders and to drive your vehicle into police officers.

The media mob and Democrats mocked when a mob led by Black Lives Matter (BLM) protesters attempted to storm the White House and the President had to be evacuated. When Republican members of Congress were surrounded by a threatening mob upon exiting the Republican National Convention, Democrats called the incident “exaggerated”.

When California Democratic representative Maxine Waters and other like-minded sycophants encouraged democrats to “go out and get in their faces”, as their supporters surely did, in several restaurants and public places, there was no condemnation of these actions by Democrats.

Now, the US Congress must be treated as sacrosanct. The history and the majesty of the Capitol building, its symbolic place as the seat of democracy, is now to be taken seriously. “This is not who we are.”

I beg to differ. This is exactly who you are. Lying, hypocritical inciters of the most despicable kind. A Wendy’s franchisee, as much as that battered Korean shopkeeper, is entitled to have his property rights as respected as the US Congress. It’s called equality of treatment under the law.

Nancy Pelosi “didn’t care about old statues” when anarchists destroyed them. “Let them blow off steam,” she chimed.

These were “peaceful protesters”, said the Democratic mayors who refused Trump’s offer to send in the National Guard to quell riots. “Protest is not meant to be comfortable”, said CNN and the media mob. “Fiery but peaceful,” said the CNN reporter, as vehicles and buildings burned behind him. Don’t believe your lying eyes!

For over three years, the media and Democrats talked about Russian collusion, lying to the American people and wasting millions in phony investigations.

When it was revealed that this was part of a dirty Russian disinformation “Steele Dossier”, the media mob didn’t care. Forget that this fake dossier was used to secure four FISA warrants over the course of a year to carry out a pre-meditated fraud to spy on a presidential candidate, and then sitting president of the US with key actors, including FBI agents later admitting under enquiry that they knew it was false. Obama and Biden knew about this fake dossier since January 2017.

No one was held accountable for this egregious abuse of power.

The Democratic party sought to delegitimise the duly elected president of the US at every opportunity, accusing the president (“Hitler”) of treason, misusing the powers of impeachment; making heroes of anyone who would turn on the president and vilifying his supporters, all 74 million “redneck fools” who voted.

Rudolph Giuliani, former hero mayor of New York, loved by Democrats before he switched alliance to Trump, is now a dangerous insurrectionist.

So now you have an Orwellian digital civil war; digital genocide, starting with the president, over a highly irregular election.

Democrats filed over 300 lawsuits pre-election in key battleground states, gutting state election laws, circumventing state legislatures and getting Democrat Secretaries of State and Democrat judges to sign off of these changes, in breach of their own state constitutions.

Election rules were changed to remove safeguards that have existed to protect against election fraud for hundreds of years, by extending voting deadlines, permitting ballots to be accepted with or without postmarks, and removal of signature verification requirements, leaving the process wide open to manipulation and fraud.

Why would one party in an election push for a system, in key battleground states to remove any oversight mechanisms to prevent and detect fraud? Who benefited from deadlines being extended to days, even weeks after an election?

At the time that vote counting or “reporting” stopped on election night, Trump had a clear margin of victory: In Pennsylvania, over 682,000 votes ahead; Michigan (306,089 ahead); Georgia (301,010 ahead); Wisconsin 51.7 per cent to 46.8 per cent.

Expert testimony to the Pennsylvania Senate Majority Committee showed that batches of ballots recorded 570,000 votes for Biden with 3,200 votes for Trump; that is 99.4 per cent of votes; a huge 40 per cent less than President Trump’s election day winning percentage in nearly every county.

The pattern from election results in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia and Wisconsin showed similarly big dumps of data reported for Biden, who led with approximately 90 per cent of all ballots in, until the election was called. Data experts have called this out as “statistically impossible”. “Unprecedented”.

And what is the response of Democrats? Shut up and move on! Obey, I tell you! This is the Romanov programme. It ends badly every time.

https://trinidadexpress.com/opinion/col ... 3939c.html

[pete]

She wrote an opinion just regurgitating GOP bs that failed over 60 times in the courts after elections? smh

[Les Bain]

Judy probably dissatisfied with the plummeting local journalistic standards so she penned a trump admin green card application.

[Habit7]

Rather than attack her, attack her argument. Is she wrong?

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Have any of those voter fraud claims stood up in court or any form of legal scrutiny?

Was the Wndys incident an act of sedition?

[Habit7]

Has any of those voter fraud claims stood up in court or any form of legal scrutiny?

Was the Wndys incident an act of sedition?

The claim of Russian collusion has not been confirmed either.

I don't know if the Wendy's incident an act of sedition, but the point is to pose those same questions to CHAZ, attempts to storm the White House and other acts of violence against federal buildings that Democrats and the media endorsed.

[dogg]

Knowing what everyone knows of the misogynistic pedo, its amazing the amount of support Trump gets from women.

No wonder so many get stuck in abusive relationships....

[Habit7]

Knowing what everyone knows of the misogynistic pedo, its amazing the amount of support Trump gets from women.

No wonder so many get stuck in abusive relationships....

Donald Trump is a paedophile now?

[adnj]

Rather than attack her, attack her argument. Is she wrong?

The argument lacks merit. There are four causal factors:

1. There are nearly 3300 counties in the USA and each reports its vote count separately. More than half of the population of the USA lives in 143 counties of the nation.
2. State law prohibits vote counting until a date that is the same or close to election day in many states.
3. Urban centers have more voters in the same district when compared to their rural counterparts and take a longer time to complete their respective vote count.
4. Mail-in voting is favored by Democratic voters that tend to be urban dwellers

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-fact ... SKBN2931UY

Here's is an article that was written BEFORE the election explaining why election results have swung to the favorite of the urban centers of the USA over the last 60 years.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... e-election

[redmanjp]

didn't dems have a problem with russians interfering in elections? or was that only because trump won in 2016? so after changing laws in many battleground states which could make fraud easier, u claim this was a secure election, and that the previous one, which had those laws in place was the not so secure one?

the swamp probably runs deep enough that even judges are corrupt enough to cooperate and change the laws

[Dohplaydat]

Have any of those voter fraud claims stood up in court or any form of legal scrutiny?

No, mainly because they used above the board methods to implement it. So not illegal, but the Dems knew they could garner lots more votes using mail-in ballots and pursued it like crazy under the guise of pandemic safety.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/texas-wom ... tion-fraud

Have any of those voter fraud claims stood up in court or any form of legal scrutiny?

Was the Wndys incident an act of sedition?

No, but that shows something important here too. GOP protestors don't go after the innocent, take that for what it is.


I used to hate Trump and right-wing politics, I still am very left. However, the blatant hypocrisy of the Democrats makes me hate them. How they lie, manipulate through the media and big tech, it just leaves such a bad taste in my mouth.

[Dohplaydat]

didn't dems have a problem with russians interfering in elections? or was that only because trump won in 2016? so after changing laws in many battleground states which could make fraud easier, u claim this was a secure election, and that the previous one, which had those laws in place was the not so secure one?

the swamp probably runs deep enough that even judges are corrupt enough to cooperate and change the laws

[Les Bain]

Knowing what everyone knows of the misogynistic pedo, its amazing the amount of support Trump gets from women.

No wonder so many get stuck in abusive relationships....

Donald Trump is a paedophile now?

Trump loves using allegations and unfounded evidence as universal proof.
That being said, the allegations and subsequent settlements coming out of Mar A lago allege he's a bisexual pedophile.

[Habit7]

Knowing what everyone knows of the misogynistic pedo, its amazing the amount of support Trump gets from women.

No wonder so many get stuck in abusive relationships....

Donald Trump is a paedophile now?

Trump loves using allegations and unfounded evidence as universal proof.
That being said, the allegations and subsequent settlements coming out of Mar A lago allege he's a bisexual pedophile.

Hence that justifies the use of allegations and unfounded evidence against him?