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Importing a boat

Postby zaria » January 30th, 2016, 2:07 pm

Seeing some decent boats in Miami.
Who brought one in recently or who has knowledge on documents and
Costs involved.
Also is there a limit on size?would really like a 28 footer .
Thanks!

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Re: Importing a boat

Postby supercharged turbo » January 30th, 2016, 2:14 pm

In before "all that to say you could afford a boat" crew

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Re: Importing a boat

Postby *KRONIK* » January 30th, 2016, 2:22 pm

supercharged turbo wrote: "all that to say you could afford a boat" crew


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Re: Importing a boat

Postby zaria » January 30th, 2016, 2:23 pm

What will tuner come too if the jackasses don't comment??

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Re: Importing a boat

Postby BRZ » January 30th, 2016, 2:48 pm

zaria wrote:Seeing some decent boats in Miami.
Who brought one in recently or who has knowledge on documents and
Costs involved.
Also is there a limit on size?would really like a 28 footer .
Thanks!

You have to get an import license
But it must be classified for the same type of vessel that you intend to purchase, so you must locate the boat you want to buy first then apply.
Sometimes you buy the boat before you apply for the license and then you will have to find somewhere to keep your boat in the us and also have it inspured.
The problem is that even when you have applied for the license there is no telling when you will actually have it in hand
Several people have imported boats and then have had to wait Months and months to get the license , all during this time you will have to pay substantial Rent on the vessel , then even when you provide your documentation customs will value your vessel and you pay duties and vat .
Most of the times you're usually safe taking the US value of the boat for sale and multiplying it by around 12-16 or in some instances even more.
You're better off just buying a local boat.
And you still have to pay to get a proper survey done in the US to make sure you're not getting a lemon.

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Re: Importing a boat

Postby supercharged turbo » January 30th, 2016, 4:28 pm

My father friend bought one from Miami and then applied for the permit.After months of trying to get the permit,when he finally got it,the rent at the port was so much that it didn't make sense collecting the boat.It still dey in the port

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Re: Importing a boat

Postby roadhog » January 30th, 2016, 4:31 pm

Buy boat. Sail to Trinidad. Enjoy boat. Leave Trinidad waters ever so often .

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Re: Importing a boat

Postby rspann » January 30th, 2016, 4:38 pm

You forgetting the most important,approval from Ministry Of National Security.A 28 ft shipping easily,you have to pay VAT and import duty, on the CIF and not what you pay,but what they value it at. Or if you have real belly,ship it to St Lucia,or Martinique ,pay no taxes and then drive it down yourself. Keep it here with foreign registration and you only have to leave every six months and come back in.

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Re: Importing a boat

Postby rspann » January 30th, 2016, 4:41 pm

roadhog wrote:Buy boat. Sail to Trinidad. Enjoy boat. Leave Trinidad waters ever so often .

Sail down a 28ft from Miami? Wish you lots of luck with that!

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Re: Importing a boat

Postby stealth » January 30th, 2016, 6:11 pm

two years ago , it took us 1 1/2 years to get import licence.
we had to buy boat and store it in a marina there for the said time until the import licence was granted.

apply for import licence, then min of trade will call national security who will contact you for an interview and do background checks on u and your family, the specs on the boat and its engines etc. and then back to min of trade....very long process.


good luck

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Re: Importing a boat

Postby rspann » January 30th, 2016, 6:30 pm

PM say buy local,there are lots of used boats for sale,but if you don't have experience get someone to advise. There is Billy Wray in Peakes who does a very thorough check and valuation ,charges by the foot(last I remember it was around $50 per foot).He is also an experienced delivery captain,if you have a larger boat to bring down.

If you are new to boating,you should do a course in navigation and safety. Sailing association offers a good course ,Power-boating 1 and 2,for a low cost. It is usually around Easter,you could call and find out. There is also a book they sell, introduction to power boating, which is an invaluable guide to beginners.

Most boat owners in Trinidad are inexperienced and coupled with the drinking ,often put themselves and their passengers in danger.

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Re: Importing a boat

Postby drop ho » January 30th, 2016, 7:38 pm

subscribed to this page. to hell w buying local... man have sheit boat and feel is some antique w ridiculous prices. really exploring some options so pls update w any progress zaria.

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Re: Importing a boat

Postby drop ho » January 30th, 2016, 7:39 pm

stealth wrote:two years ago , it took us 1 1/2 years to get import licence.
we had to buy boat and store it in a marina there for the said time until the import licence was granted.

apply for import licence, then min of trade will call national security who will contact you for an interview and do background checks on u and your family, the specs on the boat and its engines etc. and then back to min of trade....very long process.


good luck


so you got through all in all then stealth...

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Re: Importing a boat

Postby zaria » January 30th, 2016, 8:04 pm

i guess first step is to inquire in import license and permission from national security.
In Barbados presently(saw boats here and that's what made me interested)
So when back home will start,but seems like a difficult process having to deal with one
Government office is difficult,So two may be impossible.

http://www.tntwarning.com/page/about9.html

Thanks all for assistance!

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Re: Importing a boat

Postby Hyperion » January 30th, 2016, 8:58 pm

As mentioned above, you might be getting a steal of a deal in Miami, but Customs doesn't look at the price you pay for the boat, They have a big book they refer to, so they look at the make and age of the vessel and tax you accordingly. Sometimes the tax is way more than what you paid for the boat.

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Re: Importing a boat

Postby Hyperion » January 30th, 2016, 8:59 pm

And the, it easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is to find space in a marina down here, especially in the West. The pricing makes it exclusive as well.

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Re: Importing a boat

Postby rspann » January 30th, 2016, 11:29 pm

Actually,it's not all that hard.there is space in La Soufriere,Pier one, Island owners ,econo and power boats if you looking for rack space or yard space. Berths (in the water ) are available in Crews inn ,Peakes,Coral Cove and a few at the front of sweet water. The ones with yard and racks usually charges membership fee,and is suitable for smaller boats. The ones in the water are $1.50 usd per foot per day.
Yacht club goes by your bank account and your colour.

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Re: Importing a boat

Postby WestIndian424 » January 31st, 2016, 1:21 am

zaria wrote:What will tuner come too if the jackasses don't comment??


:D

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Re: Importing a boat

Postby wetfowl » January 31st, 2016, 10:08 pm

I once a not long time ago started this process and met some difficulty , regarding the paper work , 2010

Forgot the idea because of cost however while awaiting the import licence , and clearance from national security
I met a man living on the streets who told he could build me a sea worthy vessel if I could gather approx 60- 100 wooden pallets and fiberglass material and a covered area to build and for a few months I really was considering it , " just for kixs x2

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Re: Importing a boat

Postby MBC Autotronix » February 1st, 2016, 7:05 am

www.riversidemarinatt.com - marina in felicity

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Re: Importing a boat

Postby BRZ » February 1st, 2016, 7:32 am

Zaria, so when you look at it, you say how locals selling their boats expensive, but if you look at it - if a local boat selling for TT$350K and factoring in what you have to go through to import a boat then that's roughly about US$25,000

Then depending on how much you know about boats, there are some really good deals in the US on boats that are NOT designed for Open water, many of those pretty and functional cruisers are designed for LAKE cruising( YEs ALL DEEP "V" are not created equal) , now when you buy that and try to use that here in the gulf on a day with some South easterly winds, youre not going to like that ride.

Just a few things to consider.

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Re: Importing a boat

Postby Redman » February 1st, 2016, 7:34 am

MBC Autotronix wrote:http://www.riversidemarinatt.com - marina in felicity


That place looked more like a scrap yard than any thing else...

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Re: Importing a boat

Postby rspann » February 1st, 2016, 7:41 am

Right now you could get a boat cheaper than that,I sold a 28 ft Regal cabin cruiser for $150g. There are boats parked up and owners get fed up paying storage. There are also boats being sold by boatyards to recover rent ,best place to check is on the notice boards in the yards/marinas.

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Re: Importing a boat

Postby BRZ » February 1st, 2016, 9:19 am

Another thing to look for Zaria is the Engine HOURS, Many of the foreign boats have engines that have over 800+Hours on them, where as a lot of local boats if the owners only use to go DDI will have a much lower usage.

Makes no point buying a cheap boat abroad and then shorty after buying it you have to rebuild or buy new engines.
Also remember Its more expensive to rebuild a 4 stroke outboard as opposed to a 2 stroke, with a 2 stroke- all you need are screwdrivers, spanners and a can of BARS carb spray, when a four stroke gives you probs you better had be really good friends with the dealer or have a service guy close at hand.

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Re: Importing a boat

Postby zaria » February 1st, 2016, 10:48 am

My decision is still in its infancy so appreciate all
Advise given so far.

I found this on ministry of trade site.

Import Licences are only required for vessels that are under 250 tonnes.
Conditions to be Met Before Import
1. The colour of the vessel must not be painted in either of the following colours:
a. Light Admiral Grey
b. Oxford Permabel Blue
2. Except by special permission of the Minister of National Security, the vessel to be imported should not be capable of travelling at speeds in excess of thirty (30) knots.
3. When applying for permission to import the vessel, applicants should at the
same time seek the permission of the Telecommunications Authority of Trinidad and Tobago (TATT) to install radio equipment.
4. Mountings on the vessels should be so designed to enable them to be fitted with equipment necessary for navigation only.
5. Particulars of the designs of the mounting in (4) above should accompany all applications.
6. Pyrotechnics should be limited to day/
night flares. Verey pistols and rocket flares are considered firearms and applications for their use should be made in accordance with the Firearms Act Chapter 16:01 of the Laws of Trinidad and Tobago.
1. Applicant must submit online to the Trade Licence Unit of the Ministry of Trade, Industry, Investment and Communications an application for a licence to import such vessel.
2. State the description of the vessel, identifying the type and name.
3. Scan, upload and attach a specifications document or a photograph of the vessel.
4. Before the Ministry of Trade Industry, Investment and Communications can approve the Import Licence, an investigation is carried out by the Ministry of National Security.
Procedures and Documentation to be Submitted
5. The Customs Officer may request the advice of the Office of the Chief of Defence Staff at the time of examination and importation.

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Re: Importing a boat

Postby tr1ad » February 1st, 2016, 11:04 am

rspann wrote:Most boat owners in Trinidad are inexperienced and coupled with the drinking ,often put themselves and their passengers in danger.


dan, almost every weekend i see show crap on the waters, feel is to get some flood lights and use as indicators

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Re: Importing a boat

Postby toyolink » February 1st, 2016, 3:17 pm

A few years ago I looked into this possibility with advice and support of a really experienced local operator.
It became clear very quickly that the most attractive option was to utilize rental/charter services offered by local quality operators.
Leisurecraft acquisition/ownership aint as 'carefree' as images suggest.The people who generally have the most fun are your guests.

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Re: Importing a boat

Postby MBC Autotronix » February 1st, 2016, 5:01 pm

Redman wrote:
MBC Autotronix wrote:http://www.riversidemarinatt.com - marina in felicity


That place looked more like a scrap yard than any thing else...



lol...dont judge the book by it's cover lol



but yea...the importing boat process is lengthy but it could be worth it...i guess u have to weigh the options OP

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Re: Importing a boat

Postby rspann » February 1st, 2016, 7:02 pm

Thank God for Delaware Registration. :wink:

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Re: Importing a boat

Postby RoTaRyBoYz » February 2nd, 2016, 1:20 am

I've seen some guys wait up to a year to get their import license.. with those odds, you might be better off buying local.

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