Spot Speed being installed this weekend on CRH El Socorro

[SYKO]

Fellas question. We does have so much accident where cars cross median etc. Damaging just about everything in the Centre.
After spending so much on those cameras, what's to happen if said cameras are destroyed in an accident?

[pugboy]

so this "new" camera speed system is a for display use only then.

There is already a speed sensor display by the savannah,
Why arent they using that to issue tickets ?

Probably not admissible in court. Ask RS

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

so this "new" camera speed system is a for display use only then.

There is already a speed sensor display by the savannah,
Why arent they using that to issue tickets ?

Probably not admissible in court. Ask RS

It would seem so at least until legislation is amended to allow for this sort of stuff to be used. Kinda like how PP bumped dey gum about the cam at Hyatt that captures drivers who break the light.

The question that always gets asked is if they send you a ticket in the mail and your car wasn't transferred properly after being sold what happens? That's something that happens quite a bit and you would think that would need to be cleaned up before tickets start being sent.

[pugboy]

Will never work since number plates are tied to car
Unlike other countries where they are tied to the driver

[Pointman-IA]

Will never work since number plates are tied to car
Unlike other countries where they are tied to the driver

Correct is right.


And these foreign used tyres and Chinese.

[Slartibartfast]

Will never work since number plates are tied to car
Unlike other countries where they are tied to the driver

To the driver or the legal owner? Does this mean that you have to walk with your own number plate if you want to rent/borrow a car?

I think what they could do is find some way to tie the vehicle to legal owner in the mean time. Like have a transfer of ownership ceremony where the old owner hands over the proverbial reigns to the new owner while two licensing officers and a hustler stand by to witness the exchange and take bribes in return for being present.

[ganeshlalchan]

So if 2 cars speeding and 1 not but all 3 happen to be in position at the same time to be noticed by the new tingamajiggy....everybody getting tickets?

[Slartibartfast]

Yes cuz the driver of that one car lying. He was speeding to.


Good point tho. They can probably solve that by using tracking software. So even though the picture shows all three cars it tracks the speeds individually. I'm just speculating here. Don't know if this exists.

[pete]

[bluesclues]

as far as im concerned. u can only be a good driver if u pass maths and physics in school with a firm understanding of force, mass, velocity and trigonometry. those 3 tools make anyone an excellent driver. as long as they could reverse without tying up they brain in the rearview.


if u understand mass and velocity u wont speed so because u will know what the brakes can handle to stop in a short space.

with trig, u know all ur angles and curves for maneuvering and making different turns in the road or parking lot etc.

with physics u understand that it is a manmade machine, not meant to be a speed toy but to get u from point a to b. u understand mashing x hard does burn more gas. u understand cyasis resilience and instability at that will arise and what velocites and what that means for the car.

How about just some simple common sense?

well how u goin and teach them common sense?

[bluesclues]

Bluesclues actually raised a good point. I would go that far but most people don't understand the relationship between speed and kinetic energy

Energy = 1/2 x mass x speed^2

That means if you double your speed your quadruple you kinetic energy.

That means if you double your speed you effectively quadruple all the forces required to stop or control your car during the same manouvers. So at 113km/hr you already need twice the stopping distance than traveling at 80km/hr

This and the fact that water and/oil act as a lubricant at a micro level on wet roads meaning you only have about 70% of the grip (actual percent may be wrong) when driving in wet conditions. Btw, this doesn't consider hydroplaning. Most people don't know that the critical speed to hydroplane is dependant on tire pressure. Lower pressure, lower hydroplane speeds. Hydroplane speeds are also dependant on a lot of other factors but a good rough and dirty equation for hydroplane speed is
HS = 16 x √(tire pressure psi).

Most people also don't realise that these laws (unlike others) apply to tiidas as well.

all that. i know my car real good. what speed it could handle in dry or wet, what velocity and braking style will induce a skid on wet road. how to sychronize the engine cycle with the x for a peel out. them ting i does be driving whole day with mathematics and physics. and it makes me a solid good driver if i do say so myself. i also have the common sense factor activated, where courtesy can be observed to increase efficiency in some case.

the next thing is defensive driving and road communication. plenty ppl dunno how to talk with their car to the other cars on the road. and plenty more ppl dont know how to read other cars on the road. an indicator is such an amazing thing. between that and flashing high beems or hazard lights, u could save ppl alot of frustration and keepback on the road.

something serious. a man driving in front of me. indicator on for right turn.. but the man drivin and moving into left lane. right turn indicator still on... nearly cause an accident with a car overtaking behind him. still bewildered, moves back into rightmost lane as though to turn at the traffic light... ieeps goin straight. indicator still on for right turn.

tying up everybody on the road they eh know what the hell lane he want to drive in. i hadd hit some flash on the highbeems to get him in the rear view and keep tipping my indicator before i actually see him.. look down in shock, realise the indicator on and switch it off. lel

[nervewrecker]

Not sure what trig have to do with driving but what about brakes and tyres?

[bluesclues]

Not sure what trig have to do with driving but what about brakes and tyres?

all them thing is physics actually. underinflated tires can provide more road contact and thus better traction but will also require the engine to labour more and thus burn more gas. that is surface area and friction. heavy weight in the car causes tires to burn faster. brakes and only feasibly work up to certain velocities. u will just drive different naturally once u understand all them ting from physics. tranferring from drivin car to driving truck will be easier too because u understand the truck is a denser mass which means its much harder to stop at higher velocities. when u understand a truck, if u dont want to kill ppl u dont cross 50. u will turn corners with a trailer differently than with a car because u dont want the tray load to capsize.

trigonometry is how i does make all kinda fancy turn in small spaces and look like a boss jiva. angles of approach, car handling and maneuvrability. understanding those things all make driving situations easier to handle.

[BRZ]

All well said and done, BUT what's the point of the physical implementation if there's no proper legislation to guide it in the first place. You cannot get charged if there's no law

[silent_riot]

Woooo guuuud! I get a flash this morning from the camera!

[Slartibartfast]

Pics or you lie

[ganeshlalchan]

Woooo guuuud! I get a flash this morning from the camera!

Lightning is a hell of a thing.

[aidan]

Woooo guuuud! I get a flash this morning from the camera!

same here, about 1:20am. didnt realise it was in operation already

[De Dragon]

how about they raise the limit, 80 on a clear road is kinda nonsensical anyway

I disagree.

Speed limits made for ALL road conditions.

Really? Can you drive at 80kmph in the driving rain we have nowadays?

Would you be charged for driving at that speed?

[Advent]

All well said and done, BUT what's the point of the physical implementation if there's no proper legislation to guide it in the first place. You cannot get charged if there's no law

exactly and you cannot get charge if the law was implemented after your act

[pugboy]

how do they charge a car if the number plate/car is owned by a company ?
Do traffic offences fines have teeth to go after directors/shareholders of the company ?
What about if the car is leased ?

[pete]

For a company vehicle I'd guess the company would pay, take the picture on the ticket and deduct the value from the driver's salary.

Leased car the owner would pay and then pass the charge on to the person who leased the car from them. Last month I was charged for a toll violation in Chicago that I now have to query because I know for certain I paid every toll in cash. It's like 15US so after my initial attempt to query it didn't work out I decided to write it off. If it was a bigger fine maybe I'd do more to clear it.

[scotty_buttons]

Got flashed tonight too; driving less than 100km/hr on the extreme left lane, after midnight heading east.
Everyone else in front driving faster than me and they didn't get flashed. FML

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

As with anything else in society it picks up only on the poor people.

[Advent]

i passed too fast to get a flash.

[De Dragon]

I occasionally flash people at that same spot............

[MadCrix]

Location of said spot???

[Advent]

I occasionally flash people at that same spot............

thats just mean

[redmanjp]

All well said and done, BUT what's the point of the physical implementation if there's no proper legislation to guide it in the first place. You cannot get charged if there's no law

to gather data i guess, and as a pilot project -the one by Hyatt they said hundreds or thousands break that light every day, including govt ministers

[racy lady]

Location of said spot???

Just before the El Socorro main road old intersection

Got flashed on Saturday afternoon cuz i didn't slow down enough.....only going a lil over 80.....sucks