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Re: GATE - Government Assistance for Tuition Expenses

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » November 14th, 2020, 5:14 am

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sMASH wrote:^^schooled, yo.


Watch meh...have certain men "living" in those areas who when the night come sleeping in places like one woodbrook, la fontaine,Bayshore etc.

Men living like proper big shot whilst alluh coming on a forum talking sh*t abt suffering. Them doh suffer.

Trust what I am telling you. The poorest set of ppl in Trinidad is poor unc supporters. Them dirt poor.


Funny how you say this eh...but when yuh watch the vids and hear about robberies and house breakings etc etc.....is quamme and shawndell doing the wuk 95% of the times

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Re: GATE - Government Assistance for Tuition Expenses

Postby goalpost » November 14th, 2020, 7:13 am

This govt could real chain we up eh.

We really debating which supporters are the poorest?

Everybody know is them PNM supporters, and they're pests.

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Re: GATE - Government Assistance for Tuition Expenses

Postby sMASH » November 14th, 2020, 8:53 am

how do u climb out of being the poorest?

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Re: GATE - Government Assistance for Tuition Expenses

Postby zoom rader » November 14th, 2020, 8:59 am

sMASH wrote:at least half of the bloggers does live america. peddling and pushing pnm propaganda and not living under it... boiiiiiiiii.


Redman is one of those, he does not live in TT

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Re: GATE - Government Assistance for Tuition Expenses

Postby sMASH » November 14th, 2020, 9:25 am

zoom rader wrote:
sMASH wrote:at least half of the bloggers does live america. peddling and pushing pnm propaganda and not living under it... boiiiiiiiii.


Redman is one of those, he does not live in TT

e-slave catchers, lol.

ill cut the chase. the most common LEGAL way to come out of poverty is to monetize a product or skill. u develop sumting that other people are willing to pay u for. most times, to develop that by education or skills training. that will come from education or skills programs.

so, if the unc areas are the poorest, and govt cutting back on education and vocational sponsorship, then it would disproportionately limit the opportunity for those people to expand academically, and lift themselves out of poverty.

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Re: GATE - Government Assistance for Tuition Expenses

Postby ProtonPowder » November 14th, 2020, 10:20 am

we all know about education, and it has allowed many working class and poor families to raise a doctor or other professional with two public servant parents. GATE and scholarships were fantastic tools for upward social mobility.

but even more important than education is educating yourself. Getting certificates, degrees and credentials would be great for getting a salary, but it would always be easy to outspend your income if you dont learn how to spend it wisely.

The last part is where the generational poor fall short. Is bringing home a chile to your 15*15 1 room for granny to mind while you wukking in a clothes store on high street.

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Postby Redress10 » November 14th, 2020, 10:44 am

Gate was just another way to funnel public funds into the hands of private hands. Is because of Gate all those private institutions expanded. As soon as gate cut, they start to lay off people.

Eveything in this county "free" is to funnel funds into private hands. CDAP isn't free to get the population healthier...it's to fund a certain pharmacy chain expansion.

Guys stay sharp and don't be fooled with these "handouts". The handouts are given to pacify the nation as bigger looting takes place elsewhere.

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Re: GATE - Government Assistance for Tuition Expenses

Postby Redress10 » November 14th, 2020, 10:47 am

sMASH wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
sMASH wrote:at least half of the bloggers does live america. peddling and pushing pnm propaganda and not living under it... boiiiiiiiii.


Redman is one of those, he does not live in TT

e-slave catchers, lol.

ill cut the chase. the most common LEGAL way to come out of poverty is to monetize a product or skill. u develop sumting that other people are willing to pay u for. most times, to develop that by education or skills training. that will come from education or skills programs.

so, if the unc areas are the poorest, and govt cutting back on education and vocational sponsorship, then it would disproportionately limit the opportunity for those people to expand academically, and lift themselves out of poverty.


Steups...you contradicting yaself. I thought unc ppl does mine garden, goat and sacrifice to send their children to school?

All of a sudden unc need pnm education to rise out of poverty? Unless ya claiming that unc ppl only climb out of poverty during 1995-2001 and 2010-2015?

Just saying

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Postby Kewell35 » November 14th, 2020, 10:48 am

Redress10 wrote:Gate was just another way to funnel public funds into the hands of private hands. Is because of Gate all those private institutions expanded.


How exactly did this happen tho? Not denying what you just just curious as to how they funnel it into private hands.

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Postby ProtonPowder » November 14th, 2020, 10:56 am

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Redress10 wrote:Gate was just another way to funnel public funds into the hands of private hands. Is because of Gate all those private institutions expanded.


How exactly did this happen tho? Not denying what you just just curious as to how they funnel it into private hands.


Upcharged tuition for both legit and fly by night schools. These institutions all dropped their entrance requirements to get as much students and funds in.

Lots of places never properly recorded withdrawals and failouts so they continues to collect disbursements even after students were no longer there.

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Re: GATE - Government Assistance for Tuition Expenses

Postby sMASH » November 14th, 2020, 10:57 am

Redress10 wrote:
sMASH wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
sMASH wrote:at least half of the bloggers does live america. peddling and pushing pnm propaganda and not living under it... boiiiiiiiii.


Redman is one of those, he does not live in TT

e-slave catchers, lol.

ill cut the chase. the most common LEGAL way to come out of poverty is to monetize a product or skill. u develop sumting that other people are willing to pay u for. most times, to develop that by education or skills training. that will come from education or skills programs.

so, if the unc areas are the poorest, and govt cutting back on education and vocational sponsorship, then it would disproportionately limit the opportunity for those people to expand academically, and lift themselves out of poverty.


Steups...you contradicting yaself. I thought unc ppl does mine garden, goat and sacrifice to send their children to school?

All of a sudden unc need pnm education to rise out of poverty? Unless ya claiming that unc ppl only climb out of poverty during 1995-2001 and 2010-2015?

Just saying

now u will get fewer people able to go to tertiary compared to that period. while the pnm hotspots will have their funds,so would be better able to compensate for the lack of tertiary assistance.

plus, u hadda save up the bodi and doubles money to pay imburt property taxes, inflated fuel prices vehicle maintenance and traffic revenue schemes.

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Re: GATE - Government Assistance for Tuition Expenses

Postby Redress10 » November 14th, 2020, 11:07 am

Kewell35 wrote:
Redress10 wrote:Gate was just another way to funnel public funds into the hands of private hands. Is because of Gate all those private institutions expanded.


How exactly did this happen tho? Not denying what you just just curious as to how they funnel it into private hands.


Basically....government essentially writes a blind check to any education facility gate approved.

Is simple maths. Without gate, each student has to pay their own tuition. So let us say that you have 10 students each paying 10k a year in tuition. That is 100k there without any gate. Some may drop out due to lack of funds and some may pay late etc. So you wouldn't have the funds to pay for lecturers or improve facilities because your cash flow would be unpredictable.

Now with gate, you are going to get more students automatically, because it is "free" so students simply have to sign up and show up. So instead just 10 students you now have 50 plus you double the price of your tuition to 20k because you no longer have to be "cheap" to get ppl through the door plus is government paying.

This money allows you to upgrade facilities, add more programmes and thus become more attractive to students and increase your student intake and access to gov't funds.

Another way to look at it is car dealerships. Every year, government has to buy vehicles to replace deteriorating ones. These could be for nat security, public service or ministry vehicles. So every year car dealerships are assured x amount of "guaranteed sales" each year. So let us say that each car dealership is guaranteed 50 sales from the state each year and their break even is 45, then automatically they are always in "profit". They only need to worry about increasing profit. No need to worry too much on getting people to actually like and purchase the product. No need for better innovation and marketing.

Gov't in TT is in control of about 70% of spending in the economy. That spending usually goes to benefit friends, families and financiers. They will find anything to create a government contract for. Even something as simple as deliverying milo to a gov't office.

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Re: GATE - Government Assistance for Tuition Expenses

Postby zoom rader » November 14th, 2020, 11:26 am

Idiots in the chead this morning,

Tommorow is the tun tun awards, nominees making the list fast.

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Re: GATE - Government Assistance for Tuition Expenses

Postby bluefete » November 14th, 2020, 11:40 am

zoom rader wrote:Idiots in the chead this morning,

Tommorow is the tun tun awards, nominees making the list fast.


Lemme skate een and make a country - bution since Zoomie had me on the initial list. I doh want to disappoint heem.

Zoomie- Go and check which UNC / PP ministers made their names, their wives names and family names by opening fly-by-night schools to get $millions in GATE monies between 2010 and 2015.

Hold this bottle of Limacol to sap yuh head when yuh find out.

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Re: GATE - Government Assistance for Tuition Expenses

Postby zoom rader » November 14th, 2020, 11:58 am

bluefete wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Idiots in the chead this morning,

Tommorow is the tun tun awards, nominees making the list fast.


Lemme skate een and make a country - bution since Zoomie had me on the initial list. I doh want to disappoint heem.

Zoomie- Go and check which UNC / PP ministers made their names, their wives names and family names by opening fly-by-night schools to get $millions in GATE monies between 2010 and 2015.

Hold this bottle of Limacol to sap yuh head when yuh find out.

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Postby bluefete » November 14th, 2020, 12:01 pm

Oh snap!!

Oh well, I tried. LOL.

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Re: GATE - Government Assistance for Tuition Expenses

Postby zoom rader » November 14th, 2020, 12:02 pm

Redress10 wrote:
Kewell35 wrote:
Redress10 wrote:Gate was just another way to funnel public funds into the hands of private hands. Is because of Gate all those private institutions expanded.


How exactly did this happen tho? Not denying what you just just curious as to how they funnel it into private hands.


Basically....government essentially writes a blind check to any education facility gate approved.

Is simple maths. Without gate, each student has to pay their own tuition. So let us say that you have 10 students each paying 10k a year in tuition. That is 100k there without any gate. Some may drop out due to lack of funds and some may pay late etc. So you wouldn't have the funds to pay for lecturers or improve facilities because your cash flow would be unpredictable.

Now with gate, you are going to get more students automatically, because it is "free" so students simply have to sign up and show up. So instead just 10 students you now have 50 plus you double the price of your tuition to 20k because you no longer have to be "cheap" to get ppl through the door plus is government paying.

This money allows you to upgrade facilities, add more programmes and thus become more attractive to students and increase your student intake and access to gov't funds.

Another way to look at it is car dealerships. Every year, government has to buy vehicles to replace deteriorating ones. These could be for nat security, public service or ministry vehicles. So every year car dealerships are assured x amount of "guaranteed sales" each year. So let us say that each car dealership is guaranteed 50 sales from the state each year and their break even is 45, then automatically they are always in "profit". They only need to worry about increasing profit. No need to worry too much on getting people to actually like and purchase the product. No need for better innovation and marketing.

Gov't in TT is in control of about 70% of spending in the economy. That spending usually goes to benefit friends, families and financiers. They will find anything to create a government contract for. Even something as simple as deliverying milo to a gov't office.
Reminds me of elite collecting all dem red Goverment contracts.

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Postby Redress10 » November 14th, 2020, 12:15 pm

Remember guys, Gov't cares about your wellbeing so it wants you to wear your masks. In order to be sure, they have to commission a very specific company to make these masks which will then be donated to the public. This same company "probably" is the sole supplier of employee uniforms for the government owned banks as well as other government institutions.

Guess which community the owners of this company come from. Take a wild guess. Now imagine if they bill the gov't about 30 dollars for each mask. Do the math.

Https://www.newsday.co.tt/2020/04/09/ja ... ks-to-moh/
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Postby eliteauto » November 14th, 2020, 12:16 pm

Nobody eh believing that fadda, everyone knows I'm a sufferer taxi driver. Hard luck dey zoom

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Postby De Dragon » November 14th, 2020, 1:48 pm

Redress10 wrote:Gate was just another way to funnel public funds into the hands of private hands. Is because of Gate all those private institutions expanded. As soon as gate cut, they start to lay off people.

Eveything in this county "free" is to funnel funds into private hands. CDAP isn't free to get the population healthier...it's to fund a certain pharmacy chain expansion.

Guys stay sharp and don't be fooled with these "handouts". The handouts are given to pacify the nation as bigger looting takes place elsewhere.

Then it would remain unchanged, as that is PNM bread and butter. Or is it that they weren't getting a cut? BTW, this affecting the PNM secret scholarships, or those remaining untouched?

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Re: GATE - Government Assistance for Tuition Expenses

Postby zoom rader » November 14th, 2020, 2:01 pm

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Redress10 wrote:Gate was just another way to funnel public funds into the hands of private hands. Is because of Gate all those private institutions expanded. As soon as gate cut, they start to lay off people.

Eveything in this county "free" is to funnel funds into private hands. CDAP isn't free to get the population healthier...it's to fund a certain pharmacy chain expansion.

Guys stay sharp and don't be fooled with these "handouts". The handouts are given to pacify the nation as bigger looting takes place elsewhere.

Then it would remain unchanged, as that is PNM bread and butter. Or is it that they weren't getting a cut? BTW, this affecting the PNM secret scholarships, or those remaining untouched?
Red goverment skullaship remain unchanged.

All this cutting of gate is to place a glass ceiling on Injuns accessing education.

It's pure racist

A published list of names of all who will be getting the 100 scholarships needs to known for accountability .

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Re: GATE - Government Assistance for Tuition Expenses

Postby Fireflyrain7 » November 14th, 2020, 2:12 pm

Education is known as " The Great Equalizer," meaning it can uplift an individual from the most humbling beginnings to the highest of social and economic ranks in society. To see something like education being not continually advanced and made more easily assesible to the population of the country is very disheartening as it is a tool that can advance the lives of people.

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Postby Redress10 » November 14th, 2020, 2:26 pm

Fireflyrain7 wrote:Education is known as " The Great Equalizer," meaning it can uplift an individual from the most humbling beginnings to the highest of social and economic ranks in society. To see something like education being not continually advanced and made more easily assesible to the population of the country is very disheartening as it is a tool that can advance the lives of people.


That "education" is mainly primary and secondary education. Not tertiary education. If someone wants to access tertiary education then they should be made to meet the costs based on market conditions. All over the world, ppl pay to attend university. Why should it be free here?

There are people walking around TT today with multiple advanced degrees paid for by the state and can't get anything more than a store work. Time to get real.

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Postby Redress10 » November 14th, 2020, 2:30 pm

zoom rader wrote:
De Dragon wrote:
Redress10 wrote:Gate was just another way to funnel public funds into the hands of private hands. Is because of Gate all those private institutions expanded. As soon as gate cut, they start to lay off people.

Eveything in this county "free" is to funnel funds into private hands. CDAP isn't free to get the population healthier...it's to fund a certain pharmacy chain expansion.

Guys stay sharp and don't be fooled with these "handouts". The handouts are given to pacify the nation as bigger looting takes place elsewhere.

Then it would remain unchanged, as that is PNM bread and butter. Or is it that they weren't getting a cut? BTW, this affecting the PNM secret scholarships, or those remaining untouched?
Red goverment skullaship remain unchanged.

All this cutting of gate is to place a glass ceiling on Injuns accessing education.

It's pure racist

A published list of names of all who will be getting the 100 scholarships needs to known for accountability .


But all this time you on the forum talking that injun plant land and send they chirren to school and they become doctar and lawyer. Gate cut and now ya panicking saying that injun cyah move up again?

Ya confusing meh bad.

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Postby zoom rader » November 14th, 2020, 3:02 pm

Redress10 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
De Dragon wrote:
Redress10 wrote:Gate was just another way to funnel public funds into the hands of private hands. Is because of Gate all those private institutions expanded. As soon as gate cut, they start to lay off people.

Eveything in this county "free" is to funnel funds into private hands. CDAP isn't free to get the population healthier...it's to fund a certain pharmacy chain expansion.

Guys stay sharp and don't be fooled with these "handouts". The handouts are given to pacify the nation as bigger looting takes place elsewhere.

Then it would remain unchanged, as that is PNM bread and butter. Or is it that they weren't getting a cut? BTW, this affecting the PNM secret scholarships, or those remaining untouched?
Red goverment skullaship remain unchanged.

All this cutting of gate is to place a glass ceiling on Injuns accessing education.

It's pure racist

A published list of names of all who will be getting the 100 scholarships needs to known for accountability .


But all this time you on the forum talking that injun plant land and send they chirren to school and they become doctar and lawyer. Gate cut and now ya panicking saying that injun cyah move up again?

Ya confusing meh bad.
Dollar for dollar was started by the non red Goverment and Manning changed it to make sure his people got more of the pie.

Even with Gate later and the free education that Manning made , red Goverment supporters still got an additional secret skullaships.

Injun got a mere pittance from all the taxes their parents had to folk out , plus it is harder for South injuns to attend UWI as they have endure high rents around UWI.

Why you think the red Goverment stopped the South campus in Debe?

Even when the trinidad institute of technology (UTT) was being build in Couva the red Goverment was up in arms saying that they building it for injuns, when in fact it was to accomadate the PT lisas estate.

In the abundance of free and part free education red Goverment supporters offspring prefer to beat pan and put down wuk while injun kids beating books .

Without the non red Goverment ppl in TT, this would have looked like one of those failed African nations .

It's the non red Goverment folk that made this country. Very little achievements come from Red goverment ppl

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Re: GATE - Government Assistance for Tuition Expenses

Postby Redress10 » November 14th, 2020, 3:10 pm

Ya still not making sense and ya contradicting yaself. Whether it free or not, ent injun still gonna educate themselves? So why the beat up?

You vex because UWI which was created decades ago in Sf augustine not easily accessible to ppl living deep south. They have to come up St Augustine and have to pay "high" rents? But I thought injun understand "sacrifice". But St Augustine is not an injun area anyhow?

Manning made gate to get cheap votes when the tie was 18-18 and he needed to win an election quickly. Had nothing to do with his supporters. Plenty injun vote pnm because of gate.

What achievements? List them nah. Ah begging ya

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Postby bluefete » November 14th, 2020, 8:15 pm

Fireflyrain7 wrote:Education is known as " The Great Equalizer," meaning it can uplift an individual from the most humbling beginnings to the highest of social and economic ranks in society. To see something like education being not continually advanced and made more easily assesible to the population of the country is very disheartening as it is a tool that can advance the lives of people.


Ah sounding like Zoom now: PNM is NOT about advancing the lives of people. Only their financiers and 1% (the rich must get richer - or did allyuh forget that already?)

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Postby bluefete » November 14th, 2020, 8:18 pm

I saw a former Tertiary Education Minister was on tv begging for his bread and buuter .... errrmmm....sorry .... begging the government to keep GATE.

Zoom: Do the homework I asked you to nah?

How many schools did this one open when PP was in office? Did they go under some wife's name?

Just asking nah because is real bobol went on under Tantie Kams and dem. After all, they had to "put right" the secret scholarships of the PNM.

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Postby sMASH » November 14th, 2020, 8:38 pm

Fireflyrain7 wrote:Education is known as " The Great Equalizer," meaning it can uplift an individual from the most humbling beginnings to the highest of social and economic ranks in society. To see something like education being not continually advanced and made more easily assesible to the population of the country is very disheartening as it is a tool that can advance the lives of people.

equalizer?? dem chirren want pool.

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Re: GATE - Government Assistance for Tuition Expenses

Postby teems1 » November 14th, 2020, 8:42 pm

Instead of cutting GATE funding, why not remove funding for the fly by nights?

Seems like throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

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