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rspann wrote:Anybody knows our sugar import bill per annum? I've always wondered why sugar and rice couldnt be continued to be produced here and save some of that foreign exchange. Guyana does it still and I've seen large estates in Florida producing for the US
300,000 tonnes annually or something like that.....but think that refined and raw sugar combined. Refined is not white sugar btw and is the one used in food and beverage manufacturing.rspann wrote:Anybody knows our sugar import bill per annum? I've always wondered why sugar and rice couldnt be continued to be produced here and save some of that foreign exchange. Guyana does it still and I've seen large estates in Florida producing for the US
Convert caroni cane land for some filthy douglarized strains of buds. For export.MaxPower wrote:People studying weed atm
Total Bull5hitvaiostation wrote:Rowley: We were not racist on Caroni
Rowley: We were not racist on Caroni
THE Prime Minister has strongly denied the PNM was racist for having closed Caroni (1975) Ltd in 2003 under the Patrick Manning administration.
He was addressing a PNM rally at La Horquetta Regional Complex on Thursday. He said such an allegation had been made by someone amid the outpouring of accolades at the recent death of Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha head Satnarayan Maharaj.
Dr Rowley said in 1975 a PNM government had bought sugar estates from owners keen to sell and had then run the industry for 20 years buoyed by preferential prices in the United States and Europe.
However, this overseas support was ended by the World Trade Organisation, leading to the closure of Caroni, as sugar estates also shut in St Kitts, Antigua and Jamaica, none of which countries were accused of racism.
“Yet only last week I had to read the Caroni closure was due to racism,” said an exasperated Rowley.
He recalled the Government had spent $9 billion in Caroni’s closure on things such as providing benefits to ex-workers.
Rowley hit the media for their uncritical reporting on the issue, including the Opposition’s plans to restart the local sugar cane industry.
“What really galls me is, the media will just print that without any challenge,” he said.
The PM recalled how the Government had tried to keep the economy steady, resisting calls to trim the budget.
He said, “Some of you might not have made it.”
He criticised individuals he had recently met who were demanding he give them “more, more, more,” as he replied that you cannot get more from less.
Saying the Energy Minister smiles at everything, the PM said Franklin Khan’s recent news that TT has just ten years of natural gas reserves left now means it will run out before the SEA exam date of a baby born today, unless new gas deposits are found.
“You don’t know what we’ve been through,” Rowley said of the challenges of governance.
https://newsday.co.tt/2019/11/22/rowley ... aZOkVpWPt8
I not Hindu bro.Phone Surgeon wrote:Zoom you throw in your hat to take over the Maha Sabha by chance?
I think you would make a great candidate to replace sat
Caroni was allow to be a run away horse in order to shut it down. This was the directives when Manning first became PM in 1991.ek4ever wrote:Caroni became unprofitable a large part due to how it was run..... same as Petrotrin. A profitable sugar industry can lead to downstream investments in other products. Unfortunately this country is run by fools who cannot put country before party
one eye wrote:Why do we need sugar production when we can import it? That is backward thinking. We need to focus on more important things like housing projects and health care.
Housing and health care does not bring in foreign excange.one eye wrote:Why do we need sugar production when we can import it? That is backward thinking. We need to focus on more important things like housing projects and health care.
This!Rovin wrote:it have anything govt has its hands in that making a profit ? , probably not since all govts know how to do is mismanage , teef then shut it down & send ppl home to ketch dmc
T&T has climate & land to grow almost anything [even apple & grapes remember d news where a local farmer did it] , we cud do anything here but d politics is in every damn ting ......
Redman wrote:rspann wrote:Anybody knows our sugar import bill per annum? I've always wondered why sugar and rice couldnt be continued to be produced here and save some of that foreign exchange. Guyana does it still and I've seen large estates in Florida producing for the US
This is inconvenient truth to many....but it is first hand info.
The cane farming industry-and lands,plant and machinery could have been part of a viable world class biz as of 2010.
Cane could be used for Sugar,Ethanol and in 2010 paper-subject to efficiencies etc
The choice was made to lease the crushing plant etc to a financier,2010
Effectively killing the re birth/redirect of Cane farmers
That the financier imports sugar -is coincidental
As is the bed and breakfast services provided to political leaders.
Gopaul luck aint Seepaul luck.
Caroni was not only sugar bro they produced white sugar, fruits, meats and skilled trademens. They also refined imported sugar from CubaEFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:Most of the so called Demerara "gold" sold in this country does be repackaged burst brown sugar with rat piss and all kinda assness. I used to work for a company that distributed sugar, what I have seen regarding burst sugar being repackaged simply cannot be unseen.
In any event how Trinidad competing with Guyana? I honestly do believe if Sugar had money, Rowley would have been on that train already. The whole racism thing is a UNC talking point bunch of crap, that sugar industry closed down because of a bunch of thief. Even Panday said how they used to over weigh the cane and how is the same Indian self who thief out the money. He say how they were lazy and running racket so I have no idea how the whole race thing came into effect with Caroni.
zoom rader wrote:Caroni was not only sugar bro they produced white sugar, fruits, meats and skilled trademens. They also refined imported sugar from CubaEFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:Most of the so called Demerara "gold" sold in this country does be repackaged burst brown sugar with rat piss and all kinda assness. I used to work for a company that distributed sugar, what I have seen regarding burst sugar being repackaged simply cannot be unseen.
In any event how Trinidad competing with Guyana? I honestly do believe if Sugar had money, Rowley would have been on that train already. The whole racism thing is a UNC talking point bunch of crap, that sugar industry closed down because of a bunch of thief. Even Panday said how they used to over weigh the cane and how is the same Indian self who thief out the money. He say how they were lazy and running racket so I have no idea how the whole race thing came into effect with Caroni.
Anyone who worked Caroni will tell you this.EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:zoom rader wrote:Caroni was not only sugar bro they produced white sugar, fruits, meats and skilled trademens. They also refined imported sugar from CubaEFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:Most of the so called Demerara "gold" sold in this country does be repackaged burst brown sugar with rat piss and all kinda assness. I used to work for a company that distributed sugar, what I have seen regarding burst sugar being repackaged simply cannot be unseen.
In any event how Trinidad competing with Guyana? I honestly do believe if Sugar had money, Rowley would have been on that train already. The whole racism thing is a UNC talking point bunch of crap, that sugar industry closed down because of a bunch of thief. Even Panday said how they used to over weigh the cane and how is the same Indian self who thief out the money. He say how they were lazy and running racket so I have no idea how the whole race thing came into effect with Caroni.
Very interesting I didn't know this, I learn something today
Remember Eric William brought Caroni in 1975 to Save workers.rspann wrote:The article answered my question, $300m. It also tells of the losses over the years that had to be absorbed by the state and the debt that had to be written off. So it was not profitable at all. Seems like it's just another political football.
Rumour has it , its a new housing site for PNM ghetto folk .De Dragon wrote:^^ Maybe the PNM is clearing the way for a new sugar mill?
Seriously though, you'd think that a commodity like sugar which will be used until everyone on this forum dies, would have been a no-brainer.
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