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Which residential water pump to buy?

Postby airuma » February 13th, 2013, 3:40 pm

I need to purchase a water pump but the USA Goulds (JS*) price too high for my likeness. I'm leaning towards pentax or mexican goulds. I have a pressure tank from a goulds, will it work with a pentax? I'm looking for technical reasons to purchase one over the other.

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Re: Which residential water pump to buy?

Postby playerskrew » February 13th, 2013, 7:02 pm

I have a Pentax smart head over a year now and no problems I paid $1400.

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Re: Which residential water pump to buy?

Postby maj. tom » February 13th, 2013, 7:20 pm

although it's expensive, the Goulds have their rep. More than 40 years one going in my grandfather's house and it just needed maintenance every couple years or so whenever something went wrong like rusty electrical contacts or a new capacitor or just general cleaning. They're also very popular so servicing them is never a problem ito parts and stuff.

not saying other pumps not good, but u really want these things to last>20 years when u put it down in your house. Think of it as an investment. Having a pump for just 1 year problem free is not really a test.

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Re: Which residential water pump to buy?

Postby Strugglerzinc » February 13th, 2013, 7:26 pm

Pressure tank should work with any pump.

Pentax is cheaper and easier to get replacement parts for vs the Gould.

Both will last years upon years without issue. It's the small things like the pressure switch or smart head that go bad and that's not really part of the pump itself.

I avoid smart heads like the plague as they turn the pump on for EVERYTHING.

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Re: Which residential water pump to buy?

Postby Gladiator » February 13th, 2013, 7:48 pm

Try to get the Goulds pump...I change about 25 pumps a year at my facility. The goulds hold out much longer. They are less prone to failure of the motor winding due to overheating. The impeller is stronger and the bearings hold out longer as well.If you live in a flood prone area, the goulds can submerge and return to normal operation with a minor service.

The pentax is a little cheaper, some of the impellers are plastic. The smart head will fail with fluctuations in voltage. For the bigger pentax pumps you can get the entire stator assembly to buy if needed... Pentax makes good bigger pumps (2HP and up) those cost more than the goulds 1/2HP anyway.

Parts for both pumps are available, pressure tank should be interchangeable with adapters for the fittings. The Mexican goulds hold out very well...

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Re: Which residential water pump to buy?

Postby foss » February 13th, 2013, 9:42 pm

We sell the seals for both brands of pumps.

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Re: Which residential water pump to buy?

Postby sharkman121 » February 13th, 2013, 10:20 pm

interested in a residential pump as well, no idea where to begin to look or even what im looking for....most of the terms yall using are new to me.

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Re: Which residential water pump to buy?

Postby Tooldr. » February 13th, 2013, 10:38 pm

Ok. Got a pentax going on 14 years with an on/off switch. Smart head didn't last long. Recently bought another one that is going strong as well. There are many suppliers on the market, however, I got my 3/4 hp at A. Moses and Sons. 623-4482.

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Re: Which residential water pump to buy?

Postby sharkman121 » February 13th, 2013, 10:39 pm

Tooldr. wrote:Ok. Got a pentax going on 14 years with an on/off switch. Smart head didn't last long. Recently bought another one that is going strong as well. There are many suppliers on the market, however, I got my 3/4 hp at A. Moses and Sons. 623-4482.

what brand did you buy and what price?

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Re: Which residential water pump to buy?

Postby CBharath » February 13th, 2013, 10:56 pm

Who have the goulds for sale?

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Re: Which residential water pump to buy?

Postby Val » February 13th, 2013, 11:12 pm

Goulds J5S or JRS5 is a good choice for homeowners with small to moderate sized homes.
Available at all Goulds / Xylem dealers e.g. Peake's etc.

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Re: Which residential water pump to buy?

Postby 3stagevtec » February 14th, 2013, 9:58 am

What horsepower ratings do you guys have or what rating motor would you recommend? My parents have a 1/3hp Goulds and I find that slightly on the low end for flow. (Their pump is 20+ years and still going strong btw..)

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Re: Which residential water pump to buy?

Postby moti » February 14th, 2013, 10:03 am

sharkman121 wrote:interested in a residential pump as well, no idea where to begin to look or even what im looking for....most of the terms yall using are new to me.




clearly you need to be out a little more :lol:


goulds we have and never had problems.
had the first for just over 10 yrs and changed it cause to me was more than enough time.

then again, never tried any other brand so not too sure on comparison

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Re: Which residential water pump to buy?

Postby Ted_v2 » February 14th, 2013, 10:06 am

Goulds
we have a 1/2 hp and it works fine after 3 years.
before that had one of those older "horseshoe " Goulds and it lasted about 15 years

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Re: Which residential water pump to buy?

Postby ruffneck_12 » February 14th, 2013, 10:08 am

My goulds went thru literal HELL and it still working

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Re: Which residential water pump to buy?

Postby crazybalhead » February 14th, 2013, 10:20 am

goulds with a wellxpro pressure tank, as big as you can fit/afford.

Talk done.

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Re: Which residential water pump to buy?

Postby paparazzi » February 14th, 2013, 10:22 am

Aeromotor is a good brand. Depends also on if you in a hard water or soft water area. Hard water is much harder on water pumps.

Also make sure and invest in a pump cover

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Re: Which residential water pump to buy?

Postby turbosingh » February 14th, 2013, 10:23 am

Those smart head pumps are a waste off time.Goulds are the best just place a check valve on the lines.

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Re: Which residential water pump to buy?

Postby crazybalhead » February 14th, 2013, 10:25 am

paparazzi wrote:Aeromotor is a good brand. Depends also on if you in a hard water or soft water area. Hard water is much harder on water pumps.

Also make sure and invest in a pump cover




What about a whole room instead? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Mine inside the laundry/storage of crap room.

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Re: Which residential water pump to buy?

Postby blitz83 » February 14th, 2013, 10:27 am

Got these prices recently at General Electrical on Pasea Main Road, Tunapuna-

1/2 HP Gould (verified US made Goulds) with Wellxtrol 2 Gal Tank- $2450.00 + VAT

1/2 HP Pentax Pressure tank- 1350.00 + VAT
3/4 HP Pentax- Pressure Tank- $1600.00 + VAT

1/2 HP Pentax Smarthead- $1365.00 + VAT

1 YR Warranty

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Re: Which residential water pump to buy?

Postby cinco » February 14th, 2013, 10:28 am

goulds goin 31 years now
changed the pressure tank and the pressure switch every now and then
btw a 220v install is a little more efficient than a 110v

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Re: Which residential water pump to buy?

Postby sharkman121 » February 14th, 2013, 10:44 am

blitz83 wrote:Got these prices recently at General Electrical on Pasea Main Road, Tunapuna-

1/2 HP Gould (verified US made Goulds) with Wellxtrol 2 Gal Tank- $2450.00 + VAT

1/2 HP Pentax Pressure tank- 1350.00 + VAT
3/4 HP Pentax- Pressure Tank- $1600.00 + VAT

1/2 HP Pentax Smarthead- $1365.00 + VAT

1 YR Warranty

nice thanks

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Re: Which residential water pump to buy?

Postby Rooki3 » February 14th, 2013, 12:09 pm

try a walbro 255lph or a bosch if u cud afford it.



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Re: Which residential water pump to buy?

Postby Rainman » February 14th, 2013, 12:14 pm

and what wrong with the mexican goulds? They work doubly hard, does the work that the privileged American goulds won't do, contributes positively to your household, maintenance? it's cheap just buy a new one when one doesn't show up to work because he had to go his cousin ramon's birthday party.

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Re: Which residential water pump to buy?

Postby moti » February 14th, 2013, 12:28 pm

Rainman wrote:and what wrong with the mexican goulds? They work doubly hard, does the work that the privileged American goulds won't do, contributes positively to your household, maintenance? it's cheap just buy a new one when one doesn't show up to work because he had to go his cousin ramon's birthday party.


WTF

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Re: Which residential water pump to buy?

Postby Ted_v2 » February 14th, 2013, 12:34 pm

Lollll

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Re: Which residential water pump to buy?

Postby SkettellGod » February 14th, 2013, 8:17 pm

Gould's ftw. got one going on 15 yrs problem free. only thing ever done was changed to a well-X-trol (sp) pressure tank.

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Re: Which residential water pump to buy?

Postby PARTS2go » February 14th, 2013, 9:43 pm

Do your great, great, great grandchildren a favor ..........buy a goulds!

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Re: Which residential water pump to buy?

Postby airuma » February 14th, 2013, 10:24 pm

PARTS2go wrote:Do your great, great, great grandchildren a favor ..........buy a goulds!

I heard that about Seiko watches too!!! Thanks for all the responses. I was told Modern Electrical have Mexican goulds at a good price too but they were closed ash Wednesday and I didn't get time to call today. What's the difference with the Mexican vs USA goulds other than the price? Also 14 years with a Pentax is not bad at all. Seems like choosing goulds is equivalent to super blue winning soca monarch and road march with his one and only song this year. How appropriate for people to be jumping up on Monday and Tuesday to someone singing " Friday mash up the place"

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Re: Which residential water pump to buy?

Postby cutthroatInt » February 14th, 2013, 11:11 pm

crazybalhead wrote:goulds with a wellxpro pressure tank, as big as you can fit/afford.

Talk done.


1 1/4" inlet and 1" outlet piping as far as reasonably possible.... on vertical piping u can break down to 3/4" or 1/2".

but get as big as a pressure tank as possible and u will exceed the 20 plus yrs service of these gould pumps.

im using a USA 1 HP goulds and a 22 gal xtrol pressure tank to service 4 bathrooms, 4 kitchens, 4 toilets.
i do not get any significant drop in water pressure wen alot of faucets are in use.

only two regrets i have; not able to put a bigger pressure tank... (space constrictions) and not running 1" discharge piping on all horizontal pipework. my 1" discharge only reached a little way after the pressure tank.

do a little research and read up how to properly install and set up ur pressure tank in particular setting the correct air pressures. if memory serves me correct the air pressure in a full pressure tank (with water) should be 2 psi lower than ur cut in pressure........ or sumting so........

but once set up properly.... u wud be good to go... and no constant on/off clicking of ur pressure switch. 5 million times per min.

drastically saves on the life of ur motor and electrical components.

EDIT: 220volts wiring helps lower tntec bill
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