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zoom rader wrote:Dizzy28 wrote:Pakistan has for years harboured and supported Islamic militants groups (Taliban, Lashkar e Taiba, Harkat-ul-Mujahideen) as a means of offsetting their military inferiority to the Indian Army.
These groups now threaten the very existence of the State of Pakistan. How ironic!!
Dude try and understand that all these groups are funded by uncle sam to unstable the Pakistan Goverment.
Why would the US fund these groups? becuase Pakistan has Nuclear arms
shogun wrote:I think what zoom-rader and rollingstock seem to forget, is that, in exchange for economic help, in the form of billions of dollars, not "political favors", as stated somewhere above, they, (the US and Pakistan), had bilateral agreements that the Pakistani gov't would give intel and whatever cooperation needed, in catching active terrorist members.
shogun wrote:I think what zoom-rader and rollingstock seem to forget, is that, in exchange for economic help, in the form of billions of dollars, not "political favors", as stated somewhere above, they, (the US and Pakistan), had bilateral agreements that the Pakistani gov't would give intel and whatever cooperation needed, in catching active terrorist members.
What are you guy's views on Pakistan?
rollingstock wrote:shogun wrote:I think what zoom-rader and rollingstock seem to forget, is that, in exchange for economic help, in the form of billions of dollars, not "political favors", as stated somewhere above, they, (the US and Pakistan), had bilateral agreements that the Pakistani gov't would give intel and whatever cooperation needed, in catching active terrorist members.
What is political favors? Not the support of a regime, if not financially, co-cooperatively having dialogue on their continued existence and sharing info?
~*Pãñdorą*~ wrote:What are you guy's views on Pakistan?
Ah find they kicking we arse in cricket and I don't like it!
But seriously, speaking of Pakistan wanting US$.. is it impossible to think that Pakistan themselves sell Osama up the river and took the US$25mil.?
shogun wrote:rollingstock wrote:shogun wrote:I think what zoom-rader and rollingstock seem to forget, is that, in exchange for economic help, in the form of billions of dollars, not "political favors", as stated somewhere above, they, (the US and Pakistan), had bilateral agreements that the Pakistani gov't would give intel and whatever cooperation needed, in catching active terrorist members.
What is political favors? Not the support of a regime, if not financially, co-cooperatively having dialogue on their continued existence and sharing info?
I dunno, "political favors" sounds too much like a grey area...when it's more financial aid, really...at least, for me, anyways.
If you're asking that question you totally missed my point.chasemeifyoucan wrote:rollingstock
answer this,
If someone came into your home and raped or killed your wife or child, and then a vigilante who suffered at the hands of the same criminal, (and is fed up of the laws inability to apprehend said criminal) decides to take the law into his own hands and murder the said criminal who is hiding in his neighbour's yard, would you find it unjust? whatever the vigilantes motive may be, he ended the life of a criminal who would have most likely raped or killed other innocents.
And you believe that there are not other as well motivated, funded or with the same connections?chasemeifyoucan wrote:Seriously though, while there may be others who ant to take his place, none will have the motivation that his insanity permitted. He wasn't just a guy who said "hey, let's blow people up", he created and ran this organisation based on his hate for the west. He believed in killing innocents in the name of his god.
RASC wrote:So let's say they bury the body...and some stupid yank films himself and his buddies peeing on the grave and post it on Youtube...then what sMash?
I mean, that's one negative scenario out of THOUSANDS. If I was Obama, take the risk of offending a few by dumping the body, vs. leaving a virtual pit of variables to play out if buried on land.
sMASH NO NATION WANTED THE BODY do you not get that? You want them to forceably bury on someones sovereign land?
pioneer wrote:Investigate the trini muslims who leave here en route to pakistan with tons of cash under the pretence of "qurbani" money collected from other muslims in the region.
zoom rader wrote:Trini women are the worse, in trini they give up kitty freely but in the US they want half.
chasemeifyoucan wrote:rollingstock
answer this,
If someone came into your home and raped or killed your wife or child, and then a vigilante who suffered at the hands of the same criminal, (and is fed up of the laws inability to apprehend said criminal) decides to take the law into his own hands and murder the said criminal who is hiding in his neighbour's yard, would you find it unjust? whatever the vigilantes motive may be, he ended the life of a criminal who would have most likely raped or killed other innocents.
Seriously though, while there may be others who ant to take his place, none will have the motivation that his insanity permitted. He wasn't just a guy who said "hey, let's blow people up", he created and ran this organisation based on his hate for the west. He believed in killing innocents in the name of his god.
rollingstock wrote:If you're asking that question you totally missed my point.chasemeifyoucan wrote:rollingstock
answer this,
If someone came into your home and raped or killed your wife or child, and then a vigilante who suffered at the hands of the same criminal, (and is fed up of the laws inability to apprehend said criminal) decides to take the law into his own hands and murder the said criminal who is hiding in his neighbour's yard, would you find it unjust? whatever the vigilantes motive may be, he ended the life of a criminal who would have most likely raped or killed other innocents.
not at all, I just asked a question which you seem to have averted. I was just trying to get you to think, and therefore understand how moot your point is when considering the human aspect of the event. I give up however, carry on.And you believe that there are not other as well motivated, funded or with the same connections?chasemeifyoucan wrote:Seriously though, while there may be others who ant to take his place, none will have the motivation that his insanity permitted. He wasn't just a guy who said "hey, let's blow people up", he created and ran this organisation based on his hate for the west. He believed in killing innocents in the name of his god.
HITTLER wrote:I am not here to make friends.
don't take disbelievers for friends for they don't believe what you believe.
surat-ul- kafirun
chasemeifyoucan wrote:rollingstock wrote:If you're asking that question you totally missed my point.chasemeifyoucan wrote:rollingstock
answer this,
If someone came into your home and raped or killed your wife or child, and then a vigilante who suffered at the hands of the same criminal, (and is fed up of the laws inability to apprehend said criminal) decides to take the law into his own hands and murder the said criminal who is hiding in his neighbour's yard, would you find it unjust? whatever the vigilantes motive may be, he ended the life of a criminal who would have most likely raped or killed other innocents.
not at all, I just asked a question which you seem to have averted. I was just trying to get you to think, and therefore understand how moot your point is when considering the human aspect of the event. I give up however, carry on.And you believe that there are not other as well motivated, funded or with the same connections?chasemeifyoucan wrote:Seriously though, while there may be others who ant to take his place, none will have the motivation that his insanity permitted. He wasn't just a guy who said "hey, let's blow people up", he created and ran this organisation based on his hate for the west. He believed in killing innocents in the name of his god.
No I don't, do you know of any other rich, demented religious extremist who used all of his wealth and power to launch terrorist attacks in foreign nations?
HITTLER wrote:wherever he is may ALLAH forgive him.
inshaa ALLAH
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