What the Best Split level AC Units...Carrier LG, Panasonic?

[nervewrecker]

How come those inverter units do not cut off automatically and then come back on?

They do when there is no heat load or ambient temp matches set temp.

Inverter units are vrf types. They vary compressor speed and therefore refrigerant flow to match heat load and maintain the temp.
Others run full flow, reach set point and come back on with a one degree C differential.
Inverters come on at full rpm and throttle down as heat load drops. They monitor comp rpm, ambient temp, condenser coil temp, indoor room return air temp and evaporator coil temp.
Its also why you dont check pressures in it. Pressures vary.

[bluefete]

Thanks Nerve.

That means it have serious heat loads on mine. I have never seen it cut off and come back on.

[RedVEVO]

Nerve, if you had a large house to do with some of the rooms towards the middle ,what would you do seeing that the piping and the draining might be difficult? Think central might be better?

When you say central, you mean ducted or multi split?
Ducting my itself is an issue wrt service.
Multi split is same piping and drain line bizness..

Peake units are not the problem, its the poohar service guys they have. Did a job for a guy and he was telling me peake does the units at work. Said what my service entails is not what thier own is.
In addition it may not be the service men. May be the install men that leave no slack on the drain line to take out the drain pan. Pita to put it back in proper. Met many just rest on..

Our Church has about 5 Peakes Units ( 5 Ton ) and they also leak badly .

There is lots of condensation (water) on the front , then it drips .

Peakes service charge is $300 per unit - every 3-4 months.

[rspann]

I will have to get advice because I don't know which way to go. If I put the units outside the building, some lines might be as long as 30ft.and it will have to pass through the ceiling so I'm worried about condensation on the lines damaging the ceiling.

[nervewrecker]

Thanks Nerve.

That means it have serious heat loads on mine. I have never seen it cut off and come back on.

Depends on the set temp as well.
Mine is all kinda 28 degrees so it dont come on most nights.
During the day it runs.
They will quicker cut off during the night.
Advantage is they pull less current.

[nervewrecker]

Nerve, if you had a large house to do with some of the rooms towards the middle ,what would you do seeing that the piping and the draining might be difficult? Think central might be better?

When you say central, you mean ducted or multi split?
Ducting my itself is an issue wrt service.
Multi split is same piping and drain line bizness..

Peake units are not the problem, its the poohar service guys they have. Did a job for a guy and he was telling me peake does the units at work. Said what my service entails is not what thier own is.
In addition it may not be the service men. May be the install men that leave no slack on the drain line to take out the drain pan. Pita to put it back in proper. Met many just rest on..

Our Church has about 5 Peakes Units ( 5 Ton ) and they also leak badly .

There is lots of condensation (water) on the front , then it drips .

Peakes service charge is $300 per unit - every 3-4 months.

That cant be right.
5 tonne is like $600.00 and up.
Usually when there is condensation there the temp is set low and fan speed set low.

I did some work for samlalsingh in marabella with an assoicate recently. They bawl..
Behind the coils does have to clean too. Had big junks of stuff coming out. Since that they freezing.

[RedVEVO]

Thanks Nerve.

That means it have serious heat loads on mine. I have never seen it cut off and come back on.

Depends on the set temp as well.
Mine is all kinda 28 degrees so it dont come on most nights.
During the day it runs.
They will quicker cut off during the night.
Advantage is they pull less current.

Also you should get the 3 Phase not Single .
You will save $$$.

[nervewrecker]

I will have to get advice because I don't know which way to go. If I put the units outside the building, some lines might be as long as 30ft.and it will have to pass through the ceiling so I'm worried about condensation on the lines damaging the ceiling.

I have done an in install like that for a spa. They didnt want any lines showing. All passed in the ceiling, all properly insulated. As long as they are not exposed to air for water vapour to condensate on them, no issues.
30 feet may be a bit of a stretch. Condensers cant go high up on the wall? I have scaffolding.
Extra lines cost more so its something to consider. It can be done with all the condensers close together so when time to service is one climb..
If you want you can have me do a site visit and advice you accordingly.

[nervewrecker]

Thanks Nerve.

That means it have serious heat loads on mine. I have never seen it cut off and come back on.

Depends on the set temp as well.
Mine is all kinda 28 degrees so it dont come on most nights.
During the day it runs.
They will quicker cut off during the night.
Advantage is they pull less current.

Also you should get the 3 Phase not Single .
You will save $$$.

Edited so fly by night techs cant read and act like they know chit

[EFFECTIC DESIGNS]

something I noticed about these new units and my padner said the same thing about he Daikin, the temp sensor seems to be badly inaccurate compared to older units.

25 on my Delta feels like 21 on my old unit. My old Frigidaire was way better at operating at accurate temps.

[nervewrecker]

Like I said, weak..

Bet you never said that about a gree, lennox or Daikin.
Donno what your pander saying about the daikin. Maybe he get a break line and bleed install so the coils coated with wax.

Same reason why I say call someone else the split second they start to ask for $2200.00 install.

[EFFECTIC DESIGNS]

^ So its likely not a thing with newer units being designed inferior but more of a poorly installed unit?

And yeah my padner from freeport his Daikin operates just like my Delta, inaccurate temp control. But in his case his Daikin break down in 1 year. I not sure who installed it for him or how much he paid for that but it was likely those fly by night techs.

[nervewrecker]

^ So its likely not a thing with newer units being designed inferior but more of a poorly installed unit?

And yeah my padner from freeport his Daikin operates just like my Delta, inaccurate temp control. But in his case his Daikin break down in 1 year. I not sure who installed it for him or how much he paid for that but it was likely those fly by night techs.

See, I was dead on..

Within a year oil turn to acid and start to eat the copper.
No warranty on that install. No sir

[Chimera]

nerve can a AC condenser be put indoors?

like high up on a wall in a room that isn't used much that has ventilation blocks?

[nervewrecker]

nerve can a AC condenser be put indoors?

like high up on a wall in a room that isn't used much that has ventilation blocks?

I am iffy about it..
Depends on the cold box temp and ambient temp in the room.
Not recommended though but I have seen it done, kinda..
If the whole wall is ventilation blocks, yea.

[rspann]

Some AC men are real frauds too. Don't know anything about the work except how to charge. I know one who use to fix AC fridge and washing machine. The son take over ,same thing only robbing people. They don't have a clue about the theory neither the practical.

[Chimera]

I need a ac done but the problem is the location where to put compressor

[nervewrecker]

And the thing is, men like that are household names. Meanwhile people like me still have to build a reputation

Surgeon, an install is not limited to the 10 feet run. There is some flexibility wrt install. There must be somewhere to put that condenser

[DF1_2nR]

Looking for recommendations to supply/install/service a multi-split system. Anybody could refer reliable company?

Checked Peake already, looking for alternatives as well.

[nervewrecker]

Multi split as in the inverter type?

[DF1_2nR]

Multi split as in the inverter type?

Yes

[RedVEVO]

I need a ac done but the problem is the location where to put compressor

Phoney why you cannot put it "back to back" ?

It's going to be cheaper.

[nervewrecker]

Multi split as in the inverter type?

Yes

I not really doing installs these days or I would have done it (if I had the time) and warranty might not cover if my install guy do it..

I can ask around who might be able to do such an install.

[K74T]

Looking for recommendations to supply/install/service a multi-split system. Anybody could refer reliable company?

Checked Peake already, looking for alternatives as well.

Could try Comfort Cooling Ltd

[RedVEVO]

Looking for recommendations to supply/install/service a multi-split system. Anybody could refer reliable company?

Checked Peake already, looking for alternatives as well.

Could try Comfort Cooling Ltd

No ..

[Chimera]

I need a ac done but the problem is the location where to put compressor

Phoney why you cannot put it "back to back" ?

It's going to be cheaper.

the room is in the middle of a building

so back to back would end up with the condenser inside another room.....

[nervewrecker]

Can run the pipes through and through the rooms or in the ceiling.

But the drain lines is an issue. If it has a kitchen sink or bathroom the line can be routed into the drain.

[sinnaz25]

Check darren a/c he might b able to help u out 758-1166

[Chimera]

when yuh cud come and give me a quote nerve?

near st marys junction

[nervewrecker]

I actually very busy these days.

Handling a set of ice machines for a company right now. They were poorly maintained.

Inbox me a number and I will give you a call tomorrow when I get some free time.
St marys moruga btw?

Will post a pic of my hole drilling skills soon.