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mero wrote:but wha part of Essien and Fletcher could get the player of the year? Next ting u go say, how come Lampard never get the player of year?
equal2zero wrote:noshownogo wrote:bachannalist working overtime in here boi, funny that Messi takes so much pong yet he has more hardware and awards than most players combined on ManUre
so!?
xavi and iniesta and the understanding he has with them are the only reasons messi is so highly rated. this is why messi fails to live up to the hype for argentina, different system and different players who dont have the same level of understanding with him.
the team makes the player, not the other way around. individual accolades arent worth shite, even the players who win them would admit that.
pioneer wrote:Who won year before?...and before?
How many times barca ever won the CL compared to Utd?
Allyuh men in denial.
Yes it's called Soccer.
pioneer wrote:noshownogo wrote:La Liga "where all the great players dream of playing"
EPL "where all the great players retire"
If EPL so much better, how come yuh team couldn't hold on to the "greatest player", and lost him to Madrid?
wait wait waaaaait...back p de truck *beep beep beep pffftttt*
u jus bring real madrid into this?
pimptacular wrote:
look at the epl..teams are more close together which shows competition and how hard it is to win a game..
and for they who said rooney have all those goals and no individual award to show for it..obviously you retard cuz the nominations havent went in yet for the current season
and as for the maradona not using messi correctly..he still fail for argentina even before maradonna.. 43 appearances and 13 goals (rooney has a higher goals to game ratio) cuz he dont have teammates on the same caliber of xavi and inesta pulling the strings in midfield and if you want to be a noob an say assists is everything..assists is the last man to pass the ball to the goal scorer, while it takes a good pass, the real skill is the guy who started and makes the plays which is xavi and inesta..i rate those 2 highly over messi
I'm not saying that any league better than another (dat is an argument that could go on for years)
Rooney having one magnificent season and men feel he is d next Messiah yes.
worksux101 wrote:I'm not saying that any league better than another (dat is an argument that could go on for years)
It can go on for about 5 seconds...how many teams from the EPL have been in the semis of the UCL for the last 4 seasons...Rooney having one magnificent season and men feel he is d next Messiah yes.
Rooney has been played out of position constantly and thrown around for the last 4 seasons...were Messi or Ronaldinho ever asked to defend? NO...
When Ronaldo refused to go back, they sacrificed Rooney...he has been great for years, and most true Man Utd fans who have watched games consistently for the last 4+ seasons can tell you that...
"Taking away" Rooney's international goals...well that must be one of the dumbest things i've read in this thread thus far...refer to comment above mines...
Fact is...Messi doesn't perform anywhere near as well for Arg as he does for Barca...pre or during maradona's era...
Doesn't mean to say he isn't a great player...he certainly is, and by the method by which WPOY is judged, he deserved it imho...
I'd still always agree with equal2zero about the players that don't get recognition though, and that's what Rooney has above the others...he plays for the team and not for himself, yet has still managed to pull out the individual stats...
"Taking away" Rooney's international goals...well that must be one of the dumbest things i've read in this thread thus far...refer to comment above mines...
It can go on for about 5 seconds...how many teams from the EPL have been in the semis of the UCL for the last 4 seasons...
Halfbreed07 wrote:This is a thread for barca fans, if u all have issues with barca make a thread.
There are two general football threads for the discussions that you all continue to perpetrate, use it.
If barca and by extension messi were such nothings as you guys say, then formulate a partition and submit it to FIFA and La Liga and ask them to take back all the trophies and accolades that they have earned over the past 5 years.
Before you spamming idiots i saw no posts in this thread insulting or disputing the greatness, apparent or otherwise of any other player or team.
i know respect and maturity is not common on tuner, all i ask is that a fan thread remain that and not a become one of barca bashing and barca defending.
thanks.
The man only scoring against Belarus, Andorra and Kazakhstan... Wait nah dat is d sides that England had to qualify against.
if u wa take away goal den take away messi 2 goals against algeria, colombia, 2 venezuela, and peru...
04-05 Milan beat Liverpool
.i don't see what the big deal is..if there were a United thread noone would b!tch about other people in it..
if you can't talk about football in general rather than your one team then what's the point...wherever a topic comes up people discuss it...
This is a thread for barca fans, if u all have issues with barca make a thread.
There are two general football threads for the discussions that you all continue to perpetrate, use it.
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