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Re: Energy Sector Thread - Operators, Engineers, Technicians Et Al

Postby alfa » April 20th, 2021, 10:53 am

SuperiorMan wrote:
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SuperiorMan wrote:Hello tuner friends,

after reading a lot of this thread, I've found out that it's true....it's really better to do med than engineering.


Trinidad kinda melting down everywhere right now. Med probably aint even a safe bet if we gonna end up like venezuela. Today some of the venezuelans on the streets were probably some of the brightest in their country. Now theyre doing what they must to survive. Honestly the best education to have would be to hunt, farm, fish and basically learn to be self sustaining. Modern education is worthless in a collapsed economy. Then again, Walking Dead did make it seem that doctors are gods, so go for it. You never know


Interesting response.

How likely do you think Trinidad ends up like Venezuela?

Personally I don't see it happening. Venezuela ended up the way it did because of socialism, and the sanctions that followed because of it coupled with Chavez' destruction of their oil fields. As one local economist said things in Trinidad are going to get worse over the next year or so and then level of to a lifestyle much lower than we had a decade ago. But I don't see it Venezuela level of bad.
Regarding a self sustaining lifestyle you need land to farm, hunt and fish on. You tube channels that promote the off the grid lifestyle doesn't show just how much money it takes to live a seemingly simply life. Nothing simple about it. What we need to learn is to live within our means. Y'all really need a new flat screen every black Friday sale from price mart? Ease of the boat ride and jordans, actually cook, if unemployed keep your tail home and take off the data plan. You'd be surprised how much money you can save. Can't be zessing in the wettest tida with rims but living in a 10x10. Common sense cultural mindset changes are all we need and we will do fine.
And medicine is a better choice or even law. Always sick people to treat and scumbags to defend

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Re: Energy Sector Thread - Operators, Engineers, Technicians Et Al

Postby SuperiorMan » April 20th, 2021, 10:56 am

alfa wrote:
SuperiorMan wrote:
DreamWeaver wrote:
SuperiorMan wrote:Hello tuner friends,

after reading a lot of this thread, I've found out that it's true....it's really better to do med than engineering.


Trinidad kinda melting down everywhere right now. Med probably aint even a safe bet if we gonna end up like venezuela. Today some of the venezuelans on the streets were probably some of the brightest in their country. Now theyre doing what they must to survive. Honestly the best education to have would be to hunt, farm, fish and basically learn to be self sustaining. Modern education is worthless in a collapsed economy. Then again, Walking Dead did make it seem that doctors are gods, so go for it. You never know


Interesting response.

How likely do you think Trinidad ends up like Venezuela?

Personally I don't see it happening. Venezuela ended up the way it did because of socialism, and the sanctions that followed because of it coupled with Chavez' destruction of their oil fields. As one local economist said things in Trinidad are going to get worse over the next year or so and then level of to a lifestyle much lower than we had a decade ago. But I don't see it Venezuela level of bad.
Regarding a self sustaining lifestyle you need land to farm, hunt and fish on. You tube channels that promote the off the grid lifestyle doesn't show just how much money it takes to live a seemingly simply life. Nothing simple about it. What we need to learn is to live within our means. Y'all really need a new flat screen every black Friday sale from price mart? Ease of the boat ride and jordans, actually cook, if unemployed keep your tail home and take off the data plan. You'd be surprised how much money you can save. Can't be zessing in the wettest tida with rims but living in a 10x10. Common sense cultural mindset changes are all we need and we will do fine.
And medicine is a better choice or even law. Always sick people to treat and scumbags to defend


Thanks for the response.

You said it will reach a "level of to a lifestyle much lower than we had a decade ago." Do you ever see it getting back to the standard of living we had in the 90s and early 2000s?

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Re: Energy Sector Thread - Operators, Engineers, Technicians Et Al

Postby alfa » April 20th, 2021, 11:34 am

SuperiorMan wrote:
alfa wrote:
SuperiorMan wrote:
DreamWeaver wrote:
SuperiorMan wrote:Hello tuner friends,

after reading a lot of this thread, I've found out that it's true....it's really better to do med than engineering.


Trinidad kinda melting down everywhere right now. Med probably aint even a safe bet if we gonna end up like venezuela. Today some of the venezuelans on the streets were probably some of the brightest in their country. Now theyre doing what they must to survive. Honestly the best education to have would be to hunt, farm, fish and basically learn to be self sustaining. Modern education is worthless in a collapsed economy. Then again, Walking Dead did make it seem that doctors are gods, so go for it. You never know


Interesting response.

How likely do you think Trinidad ends up like Venezuela?

Personally I don't see it happening. Venezuela ended up the way it did because of socialism, and the sanctions that followed because of it coupled with Chavez' destruction of their oil fields. As one local economist said things in Trinidad are going to get worse over the next year or so and then level of to a lifestyle much lower than we had a decade ago. But I don't see it Venezuela level of bad.
Regarding a self sustaining lifestyle you need land to farm, hunt and fish on. You tube channels that promote the off the grid lifestyle doesn't show just how much money it takes to live a seemingly simply life. Nothing simple about it. What we need to learn is to live within our means. Y'all really need a new flat screen every black Friday sale from price mart? Ease of the boat ride and jordans, actually cook, if unemployed keep your tail home and take off the data plan. You'd be surprised how much money you can save. Can't be zessing in the wettest tida with rims but living in a 10x10. Common sense cultural mindset changes are all we need and we will do fine.
And medicine is a better choice or even law. Always sick people to treat and scumbags to defend


Thanks for the response.

You said it will reach a "level of to a lifestyle much lower than we had a decade ago." Do you ever see it getting back to the standard of living we had in the 90s and early 2000s?

With the world heading to green energy and all we have to offer is oil, then no. However it would've be all doom and gloom. The caribbean will still use ICE vehicles and hence oil for a long time.

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Re: Energy Sector Thread - Operators, Engineers, Technicians Et Al

Postby widdyphuck » April 20th, 2021, 2:51 pm

Does Trinidad still have a relevant Energy Sector when compared to the world

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Postby Kickstart » April 20th, 2021, 6:02 pm

wtf wrote:Does Trinidad still have a relevant Energy Sector when compared to the world
Not any more

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Postby DreamWeaver » April 23rd, 2021, 5:01 pm

Heard BHP's Ruby project is supposed to deliver 80mmscf/d natgas from next month. More gas for train 1! :D

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Re: Energy Sector Thread - Operators, Engineers, Technicians Et Al

Postby De Dragon » April 23rd, 2021, 6:28 pm

SuperiorMan wrote:
alfa wrote:
SuperiorMan wrote:
DreamWeaver wrote:
SuperiorMan wrote:Hello tuner friends,

after reading a lot of this thread, I've found out that it's true....it's really better to do med than engineering.


Trinidad kinda melting down everywhere right now. Med probably aint even a safe bet if we gonna end up like venezuela. Today some of the venezuelans on the streets were probably some of the brightest in their country. Now theyre doing what they must to survive. Honestly the best education to have would be to hunt, farm, fish and basically learn to be self sustaining. Modern education is worthless in a collapsed economy. Then again, Walking Dead did make it seem that doctors are gods, so go for it. You never know


Interesting response.

How likely do you think Trinidad ends up like Venezuela?

Personally I don't see it happening. Venezuela ended up the way it did because of socialism, and the sanctions that followed because of it coupled with Chavez' destruction of their oil fields. As one local economist said things in Trinidad are going to get worse over the next year or so and then level of to a lifestyle much lower than we had a decade ago. But I don't see it Venezuela level of bad.
Regarding a self sustaining lifestyle you need land to farm, hunt and fish on. You tube channels that promote the off the grid lifestyle doesn't show just how much money it takes to live a seemingly simply life. Nothing simple about it. What we need to learn is to live within our means. Y'all really need a new flat screen every black Friday sale from price mart? Ease of the boat ride and jordans, actually cook, if unemployed keep your tail home and take off the data plan. You'd be surprised how much money you can save. Can't be zessing in the wettest tida with rims but living in a 10x10. Common sense cultural mindset changes are all we need and we will do fine.
And medicine is a better choice or even law. Always sick people to treat and scumbags to defend


Thanks for the response.

You said it will reach a "level of to a lifestyle much lower than we had a decade ago." Do you ever see it getting back to the standard of living we had in the 90s and early 2000s?

Dbu, JUHN Scarfy is on record as having said we will borrow to maintain that lifestyle :roll:

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Re: Energy Sector Thread - Operators, Engineers, Technicians Et Al

Postby widdyphuck » April 23rd, 2021, 8:28 pm

Any views on the offshore platforms that being hit by COVID-19?

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Re: Energy Sector Thread - Operators, Engineers, Technicians Et Al

Postby Numb3r4 » April 24th, 2021, 12:02 am

It may require those platforms coming offline for sanitization, this may affect the supply of gas.
However this has a definite timeline and the platforms can be back up so it is a hiccup but shouldn't be too bad.

Do we know which platforms or companies?

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Postby DreamWeaver » April 26th, 2021, 8:21 am

Hearing rumors of Proman talking about getting gas back this week. Anyone can confirm? Curious to know where they getting it from

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Postby ST Auto » April 26th, 2021, 8:40 am

Yup may be true as they finished of all maintenance works an prepping for plant start up

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Postby DreamWeaver » April 26th, 2021, 8:52 am

ST Auto wrote:Yup may be true as they finished of all maintenance works an prepping for plant start up

I thought that maintenance didnt matter? I thought gas price was the concern and they were just killing time until the bosses signed off on it

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Postby ST Auto » April 26th, 2021, 1:16 pm

They took the opportunity to have maintenance done on both plants as they were scheduled to come down for maintenance later on in the month

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Postby DreamWeaver » April 26th, 2021, 1:44 pm

ST Auto wrote:They took the opportunity to have maintenance done on both plants as they were scheduled to come down for maintenance later on in the month

So proman was just crying wolf to make ngc look like the bad guy then?

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Postby ST Auto » April 26th, 2021, 1:53 pm

How is that crying wolf. It makes sense to fix whatever issues the plant has while it's down. At the end of the day they didn't send home anyone. Ppl still getting paid to work so work them.

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Postby DreamWeaver » April 26th, 2021, 2:28 pm

Is all about how it appeared on the media and the kind of responses that were seen. It basically made ngc look like it didnt know how to negotiate and it set up the impression that ngc was being unreasonable in negotiations. If they could have paid for the gas, just be honest with ngc and say they taking a shut down and will take gas by X date.

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Postby ST Auto » April 26th, 2021, 2:41 pm

Ngc were only willing to give month to month contracts an they wanted a long term 3 year + contract like what cnc got.

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Postby DreamWeaver » April 26th, 2021, 3:26 pm

ST Auto wrote:Ngc were only willing to give month to month contracts an they wanted a long term 3 year + contract like what cnc got.

But they never said that. They said gas price was too high

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Postby ST Auto » April 26th, 2021, 3:30 pm

Yea an it was too high. Heard they gt so we will see

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Postby DreamWeaver » April 26th, 2021, 3:44 pm

Half truths then. I suppose it is a clever business strategy

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Re: Energy Sector Thread - Operators, Engineers, Technicians Et Al

Postby sMASH » April 26th, 2021, 4:49 pm

They used to have outage works planned and fairly organized so in the odd case that they come down for any resosn, they had various things to tackle.
Like if it's a say they had things lined up. If it's a week they had another schedule linned upif ti's a Month, they have another schedule tsilored for that.


They rolled like that for the last 6 years.

If they got gas, they ran the plant till it trip and decide how long to stay down.
If they got call to curtail, they might ahve opted to reroute that smijnt do gas to trh other plants, take one down and sort out some issues.


It was quite volatile there.

Its not crying wolf so much as if u get sun u have things lined up to make hay, if u get rain, u have things lined up to full barrel.

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Postby DreamWeaver » April 26th, 2021, 5:57 pm

sMASH wrote:They used to have outage works planned and fairly organized so in the odd case that they come down for any resosn, they had various things to tackle.
Like if it's a say they had things lined up. If it's a week they had another schedule linned upif ti's a Month, they have another schedule tsilored for that.


They rolled like that for the last 6 years.

If they got gas, they ran the plant till it trip and decide how long to stay down.
If they got call to curtail, they might ahve opted to reroute that smijnt do gas to trh other plants, take one down and sort out some issues.


It was quite volatile there.

Its not crying wolf so much as if u get sun u have things lined up to make hay, if u get rain, u have things lined up to full barrel.

Well imagine how different the energy sector news would have been if proman and ngc had mature conversations and agreed that no contract would be in place for the majority of april whilst they work on planned outages. This as opposed to going public and all over the news about gas price. Even their own proman employees had no clue what was going on. The outages were unplanned and they were caught off guard for the most part. Such a public outcry really does bring sympathy for them so i guess I know why they did it. It doesn't help us as a country though. No matter how you look at a company, their priority is always maximized profits

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Postby ST Auto » April 26th, 2021, 6:15 pm

The outages were not unplanned as it was scheduled to be held in april month none the less. Agree that everyone seeks to maximize profits an things could have been done differently but for months before emails were sending stating what was taking place with negotiations an everyone was fully aware of the short term contract that kept renewing.

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Postby DreamWeaver » April 26th, 2021, 7:15 pm

ST Auto wrote:The outages were not unplanned as it was scheduled to be held in april month none the less. Agree that everyone seeks to maximize profits an things could have been done differently but for months before emails were sending stating what was taking place with negotiations an everyone was fully aware of the short term contract that kept renewing.

Fair point. I am not a govt fanboy but i aint like how this play out with respect to the govt/ngc/country. I rel thinking we in trouble but if is just hardball game being played, ngc right to hit hard. Happened with cnc too, right? Compromise is possible.

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Re: Energy Sector Thread - Operators, Engineers, Technicians Et Al

Postby sMASH » April 26th, 2021, 7:24 pm

This ongoing fir the last decade. As Various contracts mature.

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Postby DreamWeaver » April 26th, 2021, 7:32 pm

sMASH wrote:This ongoing fir the last decade. As Various contracts mature.

Would be interesting to know how long they got a contract for and if ngc sacrificed having train 1 online, so that proman could get gas. Havent heard anything if train 1 is back in production so I assume it isnt. Dont think there's enough gas for both right now

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Re: Energy Sector Thread - Operators, Engineers, Technicians Et Al

Postby De Dragon » April 26th, 2021, 8:20 pm

DreamWeaver wrote:
sMASH wrote:They used to have outage works planned and fairly organized so in the odd case that they come down for any resosn, they had various things to tackle.
Like if it's a say they had things lined up. If it's a week they had another schedule linned upif ti's a Month, they have another schedule tsilored for that.


They rolled like that for the last 6 years.

If they got gas, they ran the plant till it trip and decide how long to stay down.
If they got call to curtail, they might ahve opted to reroute that smijnt do gas to trh other plants, take one down and sort out some issues.


It was quite volatile there.

Its not crying wolf so much as if u get sun u have things lined up to make hay, if u get rain, u have things lined up to full barrel.

Well imagine how different the energy sector news would have been if proman and ngc had mature conversations and agreed that no contract would be in place for the majority of april whilst they work on planned outages. This as opposed to going public and all over the news about gas price. Even their own proman employees had no clue what was going on. The outages were unplanned and they were caught off guard for the most part. Such a public outcry really does bring sympathy for them so i guess I know why they did it. It doesn't help us as a country though. No matter how you look at a company, their priority is always maximized profits

Properly run plants have even 12 hour and 24 hour lists of maintenance and other activities that can be done in an unplanned outage.
Sympathy doesn't offset gas pricing. This GORTT has shown that it is willing to look uncaring once they get their way in the end. Most likely some compromise was made, more likely in the contract length than the price.

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Postby ST Auto » April 27th, 2021, 7:32 am

M5 & M4 restarting atm

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Postby De Dragon » April 27th, 2021, 7:40 am

ST Auto wrote:M5 & M4 restarting atm

Good news for those employees, the company and the country.

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