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jhonnieblue wrote:Ure very misinformed, 04 is the newest plant there lol
02 has been giving issues since the EIP project/ shutdown and is running extremely inefficient right now. Makes sense taking down your most inefficient plant
De Dragon wrote:jhonnieblue wrote:It's just market conditions and inefficiency with the 02 plant. Nothing abnormal for the site. Surprised it made news. They do it on the urea plant all the time. Plant was down for six months already and never made news.
Had nothing to do with the mergerCantmis wrote:5 years after the merger, chop chop!
Why O2 though? O4 is the oldest plant they have. Unless they are using the downtime to have a shutdown.
jhonnieblue wrote:It's just market conditions and inefficiency with the 02 plant. Nothing abnormal for the site. Surprised it made news. They do it on the urea plant all the time. Plant was down for six months already and never made news.
Had nothing to do with the mergerCantmis wrote:5 years after the merger, chop chop!
alfa wrote:Having a degree is admirable and all fine and good but how many of these young engineers will eagerly go look for a sky hook first day on the job if told to do so? More than you might think. Links or no links don't be so quick to knock the older guys who actually know what they are doing and had the estate running and profitable for decades
Dragon I worked years in Pt and the degree guys are paper pushers and do mostly management. They don't engineer anything. They normally consult overseas for engineering advice at a cost. Most upgrades or new kits are contracted out.De Dragon wrote:alfa wrote:Having a degree is admirable and all fine and good but how many of these young engineers will eagerly go look for a sky hook first day on the job if told to do so? More than you might think. Links or no links don't be so quick to knock the older guys who actually know what they are doing and had the estate running and profitable for decades
My experience is generally younger guys with a degree have a chip on their shoulder being ordered around and disciplined by older guys with diplomas, or even CXC alone. The Estate has a saying "degrees don't turn valves"
zoom rader wrote:Dragon I worked years in Pt and the degree guys are paper pushers and do mostly management. They don't engineer anything. They normally consult overseas for engineering advice at a cost. Most upgrades or new kits are contracted out.De Dragon wrote:alfa wrote:Having a degree is admirable and all fine and good but how many of these young engineers will eagerly go look for a sky hook first day on the job if told to do so? More than you might think. Links or no links don't be so quick to knock the older guys who actually know what they are doing and had the estate running and profitable for decades
My experience is generally younger guys with a degree have a chip on their shoulder being ordered around and disciplined by older guys with diplomas, or even CXC alone. The Estate has a saying "degrees don't turn valves"
What use to pissed me off is the same advice the techs use to give is shunt off which was free but they prefer some engineering firm to give the same advice at a cost.
I can't blame the young degrees cause that's what the company pushes for and treats them.
zoom rader wrote:Dragon I worked years in Pt and the degree guys are paper pushers and do mostly management. They don't engineer anything. They normally consult overseas for engineering advice at a cost. Most upgrades or new kits are contracted out.De Dragon wrote:alfa wrote:Having a degree is admirable and all fine and good but how many of these young engineers will eagerly go look for a sky hook first day on the job if told to do so? More than you might think. Links or no links don't be so quick to knock the older guys who actually know what they are doing and had the estate running and profitable for decades
My experience is generally younger guys with a degree have a chip on their shoulder being ordered around and disciplined by older guys with diplomas, or even CXC alone. The Estate has a saying "degrees don't turn valves"
What use to pissed me off is the same advice the techs use to give is shunt off which was free but they prefer some engineering firm to give the same advice at a cost.
I can't blame the young degrees cause that's what the company pushes for and treats them.
zoom rader wrote:^^^ Banana republic 101 .
Lord help all those doing Tech certs and Engineering.
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