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Dave wrote:Agreed but many ppl would still say 238k for a 1.5
agent007 wrote:As someone who can judge the RAV4, CRV, CX5, Xtrail and Tucson, I can safely say that each has its uniqueness about them.
Let me start with the Tucson, when you strip that apart, you also get the bones of a Kia Sportage. To me the Sportage is just a cheaper Tucson. Kia is to Hyundai is exactly what Seat and Skoda is to Volkswagen. To me it’s a soup of general mediocrity that attracts buyers due to their features content. Our Tucson is the 2.0 MPi version and we’re so glad that we did not choose the 1.6T with DCT combo back in 2016. The epic nightmares many with these Korean vehicles as they build in age and as the warranty expires is astounding.
The RAV4 is well made and is of good quality. The handling is not as sharp as the Tucson and the rubber band stretchy feeling of a CVT is most present. The ground clearance is great too. 5.5yrs later and it runs like a Swiss chronograph time-piece.
The Xtrail is the hybrid one and the 2nd most powerful of the 5 (at 176hp). It easily outguns most typical crossovers due to emotor assist. The rubber band CVT feeling is there, this time with fake gear shifting as revs climb. A quality product but very bland. The MR20DD engine is already building carbon and that JATCO transmission is questionable like most if not all Nissan Xtronic CVT rubbish.
The CRV is pure fun and quality. It’s the only one that can challenge the Xtrail Hybrid. The 1.5t is rated at 188-190hp. The CVT does not have that rubber band feeling, the handling is good and it’s pretty spacious. I won’t doubt that most of you all might very well choose this one over the others and I won’t blame you. 25 months later and a few quirks here and there, we anticipate this vehicle will continue to work well as the years climb. We are eyeballing the oil dilution issue and are somewhat bracing for impact just in case problems arise by year 2022.
The CX5 is a much different approach towards the compact crossover. It isn’t class leading in space and power but the way this vehicle feels while driving, the overall dynamics, the looks, the quality, the sound system and that paint color which I am bold enough to say is probably the best red in the entire auto industry. The CX5 shines bright on its own, even if you order it in black. If I were to compare a CX5 to the rest of the segment, as I mentioned many times before, it’s a samurai sword in a sea of butter knives.
Let’s remove the Xtrail Hybrid from this mix since it’s a grey market import and replace it with the $419k fully loaded Massy version. That unit will be relegated to a position above the Koreans. So based on my experience with the 5, I will rate them as:
1st CX5
2nd CRV
3rd RAV4
4th Xtrail
5th Tucson
If I were to impose my list against the entire segment offered locally and internationally then my rankings would be:
Prices for top trim models available locally only...
1st CX5 2.0 ($356k)
2nd CRV 1.5t awd ($410k)
3rd Forester 2.0 awd ($459k)
4th Rav4 2.0 ($419k)
5th Xtrail 2.0 awd ($419k)
6th Outlander 2.4 awd ($?)
7th Equinox 1.5t ($290k)
8th Tucson (dual clutch) 1.6t awd ($329k)
9th Tiguan (dual clutch) 2.0t awd ($495k)
10th Cherokee 2.0t awd ($?)
11th Kuga/Escape 1.5t awd ($345k?)
12th Sportage 2.0 ($335k?)
I know your likes would be different. For some, a sunroof is important, others it’s awd. Well if those 2 features is a must together with leather seats and premium audio then your #1 is a toss between the Forester and Tiguan. The 2.0T R-Line performance of the latter will spoil you no doubt but as that vehicle ages, it will redefine what you think a money pit is. So in that case, you may take a Forester. Acceleration and performance are not the attributes you think will come from this brand that makes STI’s but rather, when in the Forester, you can pretty much go almost as far as where a stock Jeep Wrangler can. Now that’s impressive!
agent007 wrote:As someone who can judge the RAV4, CRV, CX5, Xtrail and Tucson, I can safely say that each has its uniqueness about them.
Let me start with the Tucson, when you strip that apart, you also get the bones of a Kia Sportage. To me the Sportage is just a cheaper Tucson. Kia is to Hyundai is exactly what Seat and Skoda is to Volkswagen. To me it’s a soup of general mediocrity that attracts buyers due to their features content. Our Tucson is the 2.0 MPi version and we’re so glad that we did not choose the 1.6T with DCT combo back in 2016. The epic nightmares many with these Korean vehicles as they build in age and as the warranty expires is astounding.
The RAV4 is well made and is of good quality. The handling is not as sharp as the Tucson and the rubber band stretchy feeling of a CVT is most present. The ground clearance is great too. 5.5yrs later and it runs like a Swiss chronograph time-piece.
The Xtrail is the hybrid one and the 2nd most powerful of the 5 (at 176hp). It easily outguns most typical crossovers due to emotor assist. The rubber band CVT feeling is there, this time with fake gear shifting as revs climb. A quality product but very bland. The MR20DD engine is already building carbon and that JATCO transmission is questionable like most if not all Nissan Xtronic CVT rubbish.
The CRV is pure fun and quality. It’s the only one that can challenge the Xtrail Hybrid. The 1.5t is rated at 188-190hp. The CVT does not have that rubber band feeling, the handling is good and it’s pretty spacious. I won’t doubt that most of you all might very well choose this one over the others and I won’t blame you. 25 months later and a few quirks here and there, we anticipate this vehicle will continue to work well as the years climb. We are eyeballing the oil dilution issue and are somewhat bracing for impact just in case problems arise by year 2022.
The CX5 is a much different approach towards the compact crossover. It isn’t class leading in space and power but the way this vehicle feels while driving, the overall dynamics, the looks, the quality, the sound system and that paint color which I am bold enough to say is probably the best red in the entire auto industry. The CX5 shines bright on its own, even if you order it in black. If I were to compare a CX5 to the rest of the segment, as I mentioned many times before, it’s a samurai sword in a sea of butter knives.
Let’s remove the Xtrail Hybrid from this mix since it’s a grey market import and replace it with the $419k fully loaded Massy version. That unit will be relegated to a position above the Koreans. So based on my experience with the 5, I will rate them as:
1st CX5
2nd CRV
3rd RAV4
4th Xtrail
5th Tucson
If I were to impose my list against the entire segment offered locally and internationally then my rankings would be:
Prices for top trim models available locally only...
1st CX5 2.0 ($356k)
2nd CRV 1.5t awd ($410k)
3rd Forester 2.0 awd ($459k)
4th Rav4 2.0 ($419k)
5th Xtrail 2.0 awd ($419k)
6th Outlander 2.4 awd ($?)
7th Equinox 1.5t ($290k)
8th Tucson (dual clutch) 1.6t awd ($329k)
9th Tiguan (dual clutch) 2.0t awd ($495k)
10th Cherokee 2.0t awd ($?)
11th Kuga/Escape 1.5t awd ($345k?)
12th Sportage 2.0 ($335k?)
I know your likes would be different. For some, a sunroof is important, others it’s awd. Well if those 2 features is a must together with leather seats and premium audio then your #1 is a toss between the Forester and Tiguan. The 2.0T R-Line performance of the latter will spoil you no doubt but as that vehicle ages, it will redefine what you think a money pit is. So in that case, you may take a Forester. Acceleration and performance are not the attributes you think will come from this brand that makes STI’s but rather, when in the Forester, you can pretty much go almost as far as where a stock Jeep Wrangler can. Now that’s impressive!
arsenal32 wrote:Went with the X1 instead of the others mentioned. What took it over the others was the premium feel inside and the far superior driving experience vs the CX5 (test drove both). It's a pity people shy away from European vehicles when at this 360k + price-point.
matix wrote:That type R is sexy
Allergic2BunnyEars wrote:Any feedback on Kia Nero ownership? Problems with the hybrid? Reliability?
rspann wrote:Allergic2BunnyEars wrote:Any feedback on Kia Nero ownership? Problems with the hybrid? Reliability?
They are the same mechanical and electrical as the Ioniq . Both are great cars, no real problems yet. Excellent fuel economy .The parts prices are low and SS seems to have a lot in stock . Also nearly everything is compatible with those on the US market.
jhonnieblue wrote:That x1 for 320 misleading. Its bare bones with almost no features. I went to check them this weekend as I want to purchase one for the wifey.
Dude come nah man, tell us about what you saw. I am truly interested in knowing the equipment levelsjhonnieblue wrote:That x1 for 320 misleading. Its bare bones with almost no features. I went to check them this weekend as I want to purchase one for the wifey.
A next car dawg??? You real change cars often. More than I change toothbrush. I still have the same vehicle 5 years now since you bought mines and in that time you must be change bout 3 vehicles.jhonnieblue wrote:That x1 for 320 misleading. Its bare bones with almost no features. I went to check them this weekend as I want to purchase one for the wifey.
carluva wrote:A next car dawg??? You real change cars often. More than I change toothbrush. I still have the same vehicle 5 years now since you bought mines and in that time you must be change bout 3 vehicles.jhonnieblue wrote:That x1 for 320 misleading. Its bare bones with almost no features. I went to check them this weekend as I want to purchase one for the wifey.
By one for me nah man.
supercharged turbo wrote:So the X-Gear only has cosmetic changes..nothing performance wise?
jhonnieblue wrote:That x1 for 320 misleading. Its bare bones with almost no features. I went to check them this weekend as I want to purchase one for the wifey.
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