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Oxygen in tyres vs Nitrogen

Postby musikboyzz » May 22nd, 2012, 11:48 am

What u guys think, is the Nitrogen air in tyres worth it? Price and savings wise

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Re: Oxygen in tyres vs Nitrogen

Postby CD4Accord » May 22nd, 2012, 2:07 pm

You do understand that atmospheric air is already 78% Nitrogen right,..
http://chemistry.about.com/od/chemistry ... sition.htm

So, my opinion is always this: Nitrogen, good if you get it free with your tyres but definitely not worth paying for..
I have it on 3 cars now and as far as I can tell, it makes marginally longer to leak out but I need to go back to the tyre shop every time I want a top up...
All of the claims they have such as "longer tyre life, better fuel economy, better safety etc" all assume that owners with normal air in their tyres don't have them inflated properly..

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Re: Oxygen in tyres vs Nitrogen

Postby VexXx Dogg » May 22nd, 2012, 9:31 pm

It won't hurt, but it won't help either.
If you have a couple bux to throw out go for it

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Re: Oxygen in tyres vs Nitrogen

Postby musikboyzz » May 22nd, 2012, 10:20 pm

thanks peoples.... feel free ppl to giv ur opinion

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Re: Oxygen in tyres vs Nitrogen

Postby BrotherHood » May 22nd, 2012, 10:41 pm

No real proven benefits and advantages of using nitrogen so I would go with oxygen. Just keep your tyres properly inflated and you car well aligned and cambered. To inflate your tyres with oxygen is free and to align and camber is probably a couple dollars more than paying to fill your tyres with nitrogen.
What's the big deal and hype with nitrogen inflation anyway???

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Re: Oxygen in tyres vs Nitrogen

Postby Strugglerzinc » May 23rd, 2012, 8:50 am

Oxygen is pretty flammable. I'd go with regular air.

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Re: Oxygen in tyres vs Nitrogen

Postby black start » May 23rd, 2012, 11:44 am

Strugglerzinc wrote:Oxygen is pretty flammable. I'd go with regular air.



When they refer to oxygen, I believe they mean regular air BTW

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Re: Oxygen in tyres vs Nitrogen

Postby avinashr » May 23rd, 2012, 12:09 pm

i runnin the nitro in my car.. now what i have noticed is that the tyres actually lasting longer.. i always buy brand new tyres.. usually my rear tyres used to cut wavy.. but now i dont have that problem and i didnt fix anything in the back that could possibly cause that...

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Re: Oxygen in tyres vs Nitrogen

Postby S_2NR » May 23rd, 2012, 12:21 pm

its just marketing, use regular air.

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Re: Oxygen in tyres vs Nitrogen

Postby Hook » May 23rd, 2012, 12:52 pm

:lol: @ "flammable" oxygen

Oxygen is NOT flammable, guy.

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Re: Oxygen in tyres vs Nitrogen

Postby Strugglerzinc » May 23rd, 2012, 1:28 pm

Hook wrote::lol: @ "flammable" oxygen

Oxygen is NOT flammable, guy.


true true, not flammable by itself. it just promotes the reaction.

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Re: Oxygen in tyres vs Nitrogen

Postby CD4Accord » May 23rd, 2012, 2:39 pm

But its missing the point that normal atmospheric air is 78% Nitrogen.....

Wow people can be ignorant.. I linked it in the first reply

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Re: Oxygen in tyres vs Nitrogen

Postby Hook » May 23rd, 2012, 2:54 pm

That's all good and fine, but the a lot of the justification for nitrogen inflation is that regular air contains oxygen and moisture, which promote oxidation of the metal components of the tyre and degradation of the rubber compound (as if the tyres will last long enough for that to happen).

Then there's the whole "nitrogen is lighter than air" (by like 3%...really) and is more stable at higher temperatures (something about gas pressures inside the tyres and road friction...but no sensible person over-inflates their tyres to make that an issue).

Personally it's a steaming pile of bull AFAIC.

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Re: Oxygen in tyres vs Nitrogen

Postby [X]~Outlaw » May 23rd, 2012, 4:03 pm

Isn't air already about 78% Nitrogen..

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Re: Oxygen in tyres vs Nitrogen

Postby belalegosi » May 23rd, 2012, 4:16 pm

Hook wrote:That's all good and fine, but the a lot of the justification for nitrogen inflation is that regular air contains oxygen and moisture, which promote oxidation of the metal components of the tyre and degradation of the rubber compound (as if the tyres will last long enough for that to happen).

Then there's the whole "nitrogen is lighter than air" (by like 3%...really) and is more stable at higher temperatures (something about gas pressures inside the tyres and road friction...but no sensible person over-inflates their tyres to make that an issue).

Personally it's a steaming pile of bull AFAIC.


Kinda.
Nitrogen has its benefits in autocross/road racing.
The plain ole ricky with his sports up almera that spends 99.589% of its life in traffic? Pointless.

Also how do they get pure nitrogen in the tire when their is only 1 valve stem in the rim? :lol:
Most higher end racing wheels got dual valve stems for flush air out and get you pure nitrogen in the tires. :idea:

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Re: Oxygen in tyres vs Nitrogen

Postby musikboyzz » May 23rd, 2012, 11:20 pm

thanks very much appreciate all dif facts and opinions... keep commenting ppl

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Re: Oxygen in tyres vs Nitrogen

Postby nervewrecker » May 28th, 2012, 8:05 am

Hook wrote::lol: @ "flammable" oxygen

Oxygen is NOT flammable, guy.



lol at flammable O2, too much of the final destination saga.

I think you meant to say air.

I use air, always say no thanks to nitro as air is already 70 something % nitro (plus those places not gonna be open the hours I looking for a top up).

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Re: Oxygen in tyres vs Nitrogen

Postby oSaRi. » June 4th, 2012, 12:33 am

A vacuum is made between tire and rim and then nitrogen is pumped into it lol

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Re: Oxygen in tyres vs Nitrogen

Postby evolution91 » June 6th, 2012, 9:51 pm

i think nitrogen works better on big tires as oppose to thin tires...

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Re: Oxygen in tyres vs Nitrogen

Postby 3stagevtec » June 6th, 2012, 11:41 pm

oSaRi. wrote:A vacuum is made between tire and rim and then nitrogen is pumped into it lol


If you truly vacuum out all the air from inside a tyre, that would crush the rubber all the way down against the rim and unseat the bead. I haven't seen any shop that sells nitrogen 'vacuum' anything out from the tyre..

IMO, your tyres will like it more if you use regular air and keep them topped up at the recommended pressures. Save your money and invest in an accurate tyre pressure gauge (not those el cheapo stick gauges).

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Re: Oxygen in tyres vs Nitrogen

Postby INDAVID WORKSHOP » June 6th, 2012, 11:52 pm

I use Nitrogen in both my vehicles a SUV and pickup I can say in the last 8 yrs that using Nitrogen filled tyres they last a lot longer than regular filled air. This comparison has been done by me with friends who do similar runs and vehicles my tyres always outlast their tyres.

I do agree that normal air is ~ 78% Nitrogen the other 22% is on average ~20.8 oxygen reducing this amount of oxygen in your tyres will definitely help them run cooler eg: a maracas run I can touch my tyres and not pull away my hand compared to regular filled tyres which are very hot to the touch.

My 2 cents worth

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Re: Oxygen in tyres vs Nitrogen

Postby supermanhhh » June 18th, 2012, 11:26 am

I have Nitrogen in my two vehicles, I noticed my tyres lasting a bit longer and they don't cut as bad as before. It's up to the user what you choose really!

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Re: Oxygen in tyres vs Nitrogen

Postby 3stagevtec » June 18th, 2012, 11:47 am

supermanhhh wrote:I have Nitrogen in my two vehicles, I noticed my tyres lasting a bit longer and they don't cut as bad as before. It's up to the user what you choose really!


That would suggest a mechanical fault with the vehicle.. which would also explain why they seem to last longer.


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Re: Oxygen in tyres vs Nitrogen

Postby supermanhhh » June 18th, 2012, 1:35 pm

One or two of them said it has minimal benefits. So it's still up the user. Pay for Nitrogen or Get free air, where the two has little differences.

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Re: Oxygen in tyres vs Nitrogen

Postby supermanhhh » June 18th, 2012, 1:37 pm

3stagevtec wrote:
supermanhhh wrote:I have Nitrogen in my two vehicles, I noticed my tyres lasting a bit longer and they don't cut as bad as before. It's up to the user what you choose really!


That would suggest a mechanical fault with the vehicle.. which would also explain why they seem to last longer.


The tyres was cutting a certain way and when I changed tyres, I put back the same brand and put Nitrogen in it. I never said it stop cutting the tyre. It was still cutting, but not as bad as before.

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Re: Oxygen in tyres vs Nitrogen

Postby wagonrunner » June 18th, 2012, 1:55 pm

your old set of tires were more than likely not correctly inflated (at enough psi) before.

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Re: Oxygen in tyres vs Nitrogen

Postby supermanhhh » June 18th, 2012, 2:06 pm

I used to check it often. Plus rotate them.

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Re: Oxygen in tyres vs Nitrogen

Postby S.W 15 » June 18th, 2012, 2:18 pm

Nitrogen probably helps a little. I understand it does not deflate as fast as air if you have a leak.

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Re: Oxygen in tyres vs Nitrogen

Postby Kongorealm » August 22nd, 2012, 1:47 pm

the variable: vehicle owners do not check and inflate their tires to the correct tire pressure as required hence the reason you may think the tire is lasting longer. In addition, I believe the nitrogen option would not deflate as fast as normal air so it would last longer due to not requiring re-inflation check ups as often.

if you have the few extra cash lying and don't check your tire pressure often, the nitrogen option may be your better option. however if you check your tire pressure often and inflate to correct pressure, i don't see the need.

i have seen at certain shops where a vacuum machine is used to remove normal air before installing the nitrogen. my only concern with this is that the tire is sucked-in which in my opinion can cause damage to the tires. also it is to be noted that most shops who install the nitrogen checks and if necessary inflates your nitrogen inflated tire for free provided that their did the installation.

the only disadvantages is if and when you have to change a tire or get a flat, you have to pay the full cost for this service once more and you may not be able to access nitrogen shops outside of their normal working hours.

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